Inspector Taggart

I'll echo what the rest are saying and don't let them rip you off.

IT PMs where I am just now are on $1000+ per day, contract.

Junior positions being offered on seek for $700.

I've been told by 2 separate agents in Melbourne that they are reluctant to take on contractors who have had no previous experience in the country. Not sure if this is across the board but I would definitely have a good look around:
- Seek
- Mycareer
- Whirlpool
- Local government sites career section

Check out your eligibility for the "Living Away from Home Allowance"

johnnye

The OP is working in London. Experience in Australia is pretty much the same as that in the UK. I've not heard of anyone requiring "Australian experience". Wouldn't rely too much on what the agents say either.

If the OP has good PM experience then he will pick up an opportunity easily and for more money than is currently being offered. My advice, bin the current job, apply for jobs when you get here and double the rate you are now being offered.

itxrd

Hmm I dunno. They can still come up with the local experience card. But this is mainly against Indians etc. Racist Ozzies!!! I'd take this guys advice though - you'll get more money when your here.

wongstonn

Wow! Little did I know.........can't believe you went permie, BB, given that!

Neil

johnnye

Trust me. The local experience card does not exist, you will be made to feel at home when you get here. So much easier than working in the UK. Bit unfair to suggest Aussies are racist towards Indians in the workplace - I've not seen any. Do you have any evidence of this ?

Betty Boot

Can I just ask how you managed to secure a contract before arriving in Aus? We are looking at returning but my husband (who is in IT) seems to think it would be impossible to get something before we get there. Thanks in advance

itxrd

Umm dunno about that. It definitely exists. I hire IT people. Forget me though - ask a few agents. Less so against Brits admittedly as its a similar culture. But they can still use it as a reason against hiring you

And yes they are racist to Indians. I am Indian. Are you?

Thats just the way it is though. As long as people are aware of it before they come here its fine. Thats what makes this site so great.

And before you come back saying they are not think of this: if 3 people go for a job and they have the same level of skill - 1 is aussie, 1 is British and 1 is from India who do you think will get the job and in what order?

Its obvious and its 'racist' but really its just the way it is and maybe the way it should be. I'm not complaining at all but thinking anything otherwise is just not clever

johnnye

My race is irrelevant to the question you asked. I also do a lot of hiring. I take people on merit, skin colour doesn't matter. Seriously though, you probably need to improve your attitude to the way thing are here in order to make a success of it.

itxrd

Yes I am sure you do but unfortunately not everyone else does. Shame but thats life

p.s I am making a success of it - I earn loadsamoney here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But it helps that I was born and raised in the UK. If I was straight off the boat from India I'd find it much harder. And thats a fact ;-)

johnnye

Enjoy your time in Australia.

itxrd

Thanks. You too!

Inspector Taggart

How naive is Johnnye? It's HILARIOUS

All the best to the person looking for work. You'll be grand

freebo

I got a contract before arriving because an agent I'd worked for in the UK moved over 6 months before me and had a role I was suitable for and suggested me to the client, after 6 interviews and 5 hours of tests over a 2 month period I was given the job. Your husband is right that its very difficult to get a job before arriving, but for my personal contact I would probably not have, however seeing the market as it is now, I'm confident I would have found something shortly after.

Oh and yes, IMHO local experience does matter to a large number of employers.

johnnye

What a pointless comment. At least back it up with a constructive, well thought through argument, if you can.

phat-dave

Aussies are racist mate, it's because they believe their way of living is the best way. It is one of the only places in the world where one can still maintain a high standard of living and have career progression without post secondary education. You're more likely to succeed in this country because you're a great bloke than the actual skills you bring to a team (to a certain extent).

The major reason Australian's are racist is because they do not understand your previous life and what your culture stands for.

Australian's don't understand how someone with multiple degrees and can work for major corporations back in your home country and then you arrive here and you lack basic communication and interpersonal skills. You're in a business meeting with some of their major clients and you keep referring to them as sir. You shake the hands of your colleagues/clients and your weak limp handshake shows your lack of presence. You're invited out for lunch on a Friday afternoon but you decline and sit at your desk working. Your team invites you for after work drinks but you never come because you don't believe in drinking. They invite you to the cricket but you decline because of your family or religious commitments. They take the piss out of you as a form of bonding and you complain they are bullying you.

There is nothing wrong with being proud of where you come from and the beliefs you hold but being accepted in this country is about adapting our way of life and slowly adding your own flavour of what you bring from your home country.

Cultural diversity.... we just don't understand you, yet.