moneypenny20

I've struggled to find negative comments towards you personally, one or two wondering if the move is right and one querying another post you'd made. Not negative. Not unless you're touchy and defensive of course.

sssss

I'd say the OP needed therapy before anything else.

sssss

Hilarious!

moneypenny20

Or stop reading the Daily Mail.
If you say so. I was just going along with your 'lol'

tawkins1

The teens don't bother me it the ferrel little ones that ya have to worry about!

sel

Probably cos the teens here are to stoned to give a crap

peterb4

I haven't seen any strong indication at all that kids are better in Australia. I've seen some very bad behaviour (including criminal behaviour) from teenagers/young adults in Australia and heard some pretty poor things come out of their mouths on trains etc.

As someone said earlier, it is a case of 'same shit, different bucket'. I find that this is true of *most* things when comparing UK and Australia - same shit, different bucket.

If you ever look at stats online you'll find things like crime and youth crime per capita (this is a vital element because it takes differences in population size into account) are virtually identical - in many cases you'll find Australia often actually comes HIGHER in crime lists. Do some reading online - there's been some HORRIFIC crimes committed in Australia over the years but one of the curious things about Australia is that people *seem* to be inclined towards turning a blind eye/ignoring a lot of these things which is the exact opposite of what happens in Britain where everyone takes TOO MUCH notice of the shit that goes on. Aussies have their famous ''she'll be right'' attitude which I feel gets used too much and allows them to think things are okay when they are not.

Nations develop patterns/habits of thought. It doesn't necessarily represent reality. Australia is VERY biased towards a positive appraisal of itself, whereas Britain is VERY biased towards a negative appraisal of itself. It's just how it goes.

The bottom line is that there are shitty areas of the UK and there are shitty areas of Australia. There are areas in both countries that you would not want to live. Just because there is more sun in Australia does not mean there is less crime and unpleasantness.

Cheers!

Pete

chris955

Well I find myself agreeing with absolutely every part of your post, mostly because it is spot on
Amazingly I get accused of being anti Australian because I tell people that virtually every aspect of day to day life is the same here as it is in the UK.
I have read that the average person has more family time here, people are healthier here, kids are happier and more polite here and even that they don't grow up so fast here.
I realise that many are happy just to blindly accept these 'facts' but I prefer to try and balance things, for that I am apparently a hater
I also realise that many migrants will want to think all these things are true and will ignore bad news to a degree, that is understandable but naive.
Anyway, thanks again.

aussietobe

I havent read the other posts on this thread but I have taught high school in both countries. My perception is there is a hardness in UK kids that isn't as prevalent in Australian kids, who tend to be quite easy going. I can't imagine the riots of London happening in Australia. The UK riots were caused by decades of welfare plus family breakdown plus cultural issues - Australia has been much tougher in dealing with those issues (work for the dole programs plus strict immigration policies etc)
In the high school I teach in Perth it is the english kids that are the most difficult to deal with on the whole. You get horrible Aussie kids too.

chris955

I guess as with everything it very much depends on where you are in both countries.

milly123

Having lived in Adelaide
Like most speaking from experience ... it’s like for like , it’s all dependent on the friends they meet and on how there guidelines are set out from home , Australian children don’t seem to grow up as fast , my 16yrs old is more like a British 14yr old, however Australia does seem to have the mentality put in to their youth of perfection and not always in the ways that count , ie sport , body ,eating habits, finding yourself in the outback , once again it comes down to your beliefs.
Having also lived in south Africa where there is a question of safety and crime etc , there is no reason for concern in either the uk or Australia all we can do is our best.
My teanager was at a party last night , ( most likely with alcohol ) then stayed at her friends house with 12 other girls in a tent.

In the uk , she would have likely done the same thing, allthough my eldest in the uk had hit the night clubs by 16, but she has grown up just fine.

Shame sh....... shiner bucket some days.

peterb4

I don't necessarily intend to argue but I have also been a teacher (before I abandoned it!) in the UK and Australia and I was struck by how similar the kids are. The kids in London were definitely tougher but out of London they were no different, in my experience, to Aussie kids.

I don't think you can claim that the riots that occurred in the UK would not happen in Australia and I don't think you can link them strictly to teenagers either. Lots of people were involved in the riots in some way or another - and they were not all impoverished, tough teenagers. That's a nonsense.

And you seem to have completely forgotten the 2005 Cronulla Riots. That DID happen in Australia so I don't agree with your confident statement that things like that could never happen in Australia.

I also don't entirely agree with the ''British kids grow up quicker'' thinking. The Aussie kids are like American kids to my eyes - they are positively HUGE compared to not just British but European kids in general - something in the food or the water or perhaps more sun, I don't know. Physically they are much more mature looking at a younger age and that has got to have an impact on how they see themselves mentally too.

Cheers!

Pete