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louise4 Nov 18th 2006 8:46 pm

Re: What did you expect? Really.
 

Originally Posted by Dorothy
Yes, sorry it is in the Australia forum. The reason I posted that particular link was that the OP posts the same type of things in the moving back forum. I have intended to link one of those posts, but I didn't paste it properly.
Maybe I was wrong to say rage. However, I do stick by my use of the word hate. They hate everything and anything having to do with Australia when in fact it is like Badge says more bitterness that things didn't work out the way they thought it would be. Self pity and bitterness make otherwise nice people not so nice sometimes.

So you have no sympathy for the 'going home' people at all.
I think it is excellent that you are so happy with your lot. But, having suffered from homesickness, it is the most gut renching, soul destroying feeling. mine ended because it was easy for me to return i.e. kids still young. Had helpfull family. but even then it was a struggle. some people on there never know when they will return 'home' and so live with an intense dislike of thier life everyday. That can only make people bitter.
I hope you never have any of those feelings and continue to live a happy life in your chosen country.

Louise

iPom Nov 18th 2006 8:57 pm

Re: What did you expect? Really.
 

Originally Posted by The S's
One of the best posts I have ever read on here. Honest, emotional yet not controversial, fantastic.

Thank you. :)


Originally Posted by The S's
The place often seems to be so scruffy I am embarrassed to ask my MIL to come visit us, feel like I am living on the worlds largest council estate.

LOL - really? Where are you?



Originally Posted by The S's
Then realise the Aussies couldn't give a toss about the things that bother me.

That is so true. Isn't there a freedom in being that way though? Sometimes we get very hung up on things which really don't matter in the grand scheme of things, esp when more important things are happening in our community.

soapy© Nov 18th 2006 9:22 pm

Re: What did you expect? Really.
 
i didnt and that way i wasnt disappointed ;)

BadgeIsBack Nov 18th 2006 9:23 pm

Re: What did you expect? Really.
 

Originally Posted by Dorothy
Yes, sorry it is in the Australia forum. The reason I posted that particular link was that the OP posts the same type of things in the moving back forum. I have intended to link one of those posts, but I didn't paste it properly.
Maybe I was wrong to say rage. However, I do stick by my use of the word hate. They hate everything and anything having to do with Australia when in fact it is like Badge says more bitterness that things didn't work out the way they thought it would be. Self pity and bitterness make otherwise nice people not so nice sometimes.

I'd say that a lot of people seem more bitter than they might care to admit, a lot of it is below the surface just brewing, one person lets off abit of steam, then everyone is. Do you blame them? Even I get fustrated for them too. Why do I care? (!)

I see from the other post that once again, the BURBS have got someone.
As always, a crucial skill is distinquishing one burb from another..

Do you know that a lot of Aussies have some pretty bad commments about these 'council estates'?

iPom Nov 18th 2006 9:23 pm

Re: What did you expect? Really.
 

Originally Posted by soapy
i didnt and that way i wasnt disappointed ;)


Best way to be, mate. :)

soapy© Nov 18th 2006 9:23 pm

Re: What did you expect? Really.
 

Originally Posted by iPom
Best way to be, mate. :)

yip, and i think its worked lol :D

iPom Nov 18th 2006 9:25 pm

Re: What did you expect? Really.
 

Originally Posted by soapy
yip, and i think its worked lol :D


Bloody good to hear it. :)

Dorothy Nov 18th 2006 9:27 pm

Re: What did you expect? Really.
 

Originally Posted by louise4
So you have no sympathy for the 'going home' people at all.
I think it is excellent that you are so happy with your lot. But, having suffered from homesickness, it is the most gut renching, soul destroying feeling. mine ended because it was easy for me to return i.e. kids still young. Had helpfull family. but even then it was a struggle. some people on there never know when they will return 'home' and so live with an intense dislike of thier life everyday. That can only make people bitter.
I hope you never have any of those feelings and continue to live a happy life in your chosen country.

Louise

If you read my first post, you would see that I said I try to stay out of that forum because I find it upsetting. But, yes, I do see a lot of really angry people who are angry at an entire country because it was not what they expected. It is not the fault of the country that things didn't work out for anyone. It probably is nobody's fault at all. It's just one of those things. I don't think I said that I don't have sympathy for those feeling homesick and wanting to go back. I do sympathise with them as I too have had my moments of homesickness and wondering what we're doing. My husband and I just signed up to build our first home here. We've taken out a $300k mortgage not 3 weeks ago. Then on Friday he got let go from his job. Now we're in a strange country with no family, no friends and 2 children to support. Do you not think I wonder what the hell we've gotten into? Of course but I'm not wallowing in self pity or angry with the entire country. We will decide whether to cancel the contracts and go back to Canada with our tails between our legs or pick up the pieces and go on and then do what we need to do.
I really don't know why there has to be this "us and them" mentality here. A lot of the posters in the going back section are people who have truly made an attempt to be happy and it didn't work for them but then there is a minority who have nothing but hateful things to write about anyone who does not agree that Australia/Canada/US/wherever is the worst country in the world.

soapy© Nov 18th 2006 9:28 pm

Re: What did you expect? Really.
 

Originally Posted by iPom
Bloody good to hear it. :)

someone said to me that if u wake up in the morning and u see the sun, your doing alright.
i had to reply that if u wake up and see someone Else's son, your jailed :D
but i do agree with their statement ;)

iPom Nov 18th 2006 9:40 pm

Re: What did you expect? Really.
 

Originally Posted by soapy
someone said to me that if u wake up in the morning and u see the sun, your doing alright.
i had to reply that if u wake up and see someone Else's son, your jailed :D
but i do agree with their statement ;)

:D LOL - It's true... I drink my coffee in the morning whilst checking my email, with the sun streaming through the window. It's a lovely feeling. :)

BadgeIsBack Nov 18th 2006 9:42 pm

Re: What did you expect? Really.
 

Originally Posted by Dorothy
I really don't know why there has to be this "us and them" mentality here. A lot of the posters in the going back section are people who have truly made an attempt to be happy and it didn't work for them but then there is a minority who have nothing but hateful things to write about anyone who does not agree that Australia/Canada/US/wherever is the worst country in the world.

There are bits of this I can see- it's the institutionalised targetting of a country I find bizarre. There are things about the Uk which irritate me silly to the point of fustration and mean I can't live there but I don't hate it or pass snide comments. It's just another place.

People often say people are hatred about the UK - well that is before they've migrated and they probably have a reason to(!) they've earned the right to criticise their old country if that makes sense. The whole point about migration is that it gives you a new crack of the whip with all points wiped. The dice is kind of set in your favour in this respect. But if someone has not worked out in a new country then you just have to accept it.

soapy© Nov 18th 2006 9:43 pm

Re: What did you expect? Really.
 

Originally Posted by iPom
:D LOL - It's true... I drink my coffee in the morning whilst checking my email, with the sun streaming through the window. It's a lovely feeling. :)

to be honest for a moment, u get what u put in ;) nuff said lol :D

louise4 Nov 18th 2006 9:58 pm

Re: What did you expect? Really.
 

Originally Posted by Dorothy
If you read my first post, you would see that I said I try to stay out of that forum because I find it upsetting. But, yes, I do see a lot of really angry people who are angry at an entire country because it was not what they expected. It is not the fault of the country that things didn't work out for anyone. It probably is nobody's fault at all. It's just one of those things. I don't think I said that I don't have sympathy for those feeling homesick and wanting to go back. I do sympathise with them as I too have had my moments of homesickness and wondering what we're doing. My husband and I just signed up to build our first home here. We've taken out a $300k mortgage not 3 weeks ago. Then on Friday he got let go from his job. Now we're in a strange country with no family, no friends and 2 children to support. Do you not think I wonder what the hell we've gotten into? Of course but I'm not wallowing in self pity or angry with the entire country. We will decide whether to cancel the contracts and go back to Canada with our tails between our legs or pick up the pieces and go on and then do what we need to do.
I really don't know why there has to be this "us and them" mentality here. A lot of the posters in the going back section are people who have truly made an attempt to be happy and it didn't work for them but then there is a minority who have nothing but hateful things to write about anyone who does not agree that Australia/Canada/US/wherever is the worst country in the world.

I hope everything goes well for your hubby job wise Dorothy. That must have been a shock for you both. Keep positive and something will come up i am sure :)

I agree there is a certain amount of them and us. I just think that sometimes the going home lot are defensive with the i love oz lot because they have had so many disagreements in the past.
I really don't know how i would handle it if i couldn't have come home when i needed to. It took more thinking and soul searching to do the return than the going, just knowing that things haven't worked for you is bad enough, but having to stay for whatever reason must be hell on earth especially if your homesickness is really people sickness and you need your family.


Anyway, our expectations were a more outside life and more time together as a family. neither of those things happened and it really was just the wrong time in our lives to do it. maybe if we had done it sooner or left it another couple of years thing might have been different, but hey, you live, you learn.

Louise

iPom Nov 18th 2006 10:10 pm

Re: What did you expect? Really.
 

Originally Posted by soapy
to be honest for a moment, u get what u put in ;) nuff said lol :D

;)

cresta57 Nov 18th 2006 10:51 pm

Re: What did you expect? Really.
 
I didn't expect to stay, wasn't expecting to love it & didn't think I'd ever be sitting here thinking I'm so glad I have done it.
The major reason I came out was a family one and now they're returning to the U.K I've no plans to upsticks and follow.
Funny how things pan out.


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