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Watch out..are you speeding?
Got two fines on ONE day when travelling on the Princess Highway, one $149 for overspeeding <10km, one $239 for <15km!!:ohmy: Now know why ppl here are driving not as recklessly.:unsure:
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Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by Dylan T
(Post 8865535)
Got two fines on ONE day when travelling on the Princess Highway, one $149 for overspeeding <10km, one $239 for <15km!!:ohmy: Now know why ppl here are driving not as recklessly.:unsure:
Just remember one thing...speed is the route of all evil in Australia and is (as I have a reply letter from the NSW RTA to prove) their only real considered cause of accidents. It doesn't matter that 17 year old kids can drive 3.0ltr V6's with very cheap insurance or that people hog the middle lane (where signed to keep left) or that almost no sign at night is illuminated, or that people drive in thongs, or that they don't learn car control with being in an auto, drive far too close and like stupid in the wet. NO - ONLY SPEED MATTERS IN AUSTRALIAN ROAD SAFETY So the only way you can't help the State revenue is by not speeding. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying on here like many do when this matter comes up, "Well if you didn't speed...." What I am saying is that their whole road safety policy is screwed because it only focus on the one thing that lines State revenue's pockets. |
Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by Red_V_Roger
(Post 8866863)
Welcome to Australia.
Just remember one thing...speed is the route of all evil in Australia and is (as I have a reply letter from the NSW RTA to prove) their only real considered cause of accidents. It doesn't matter that 17 year old kids can drive 3.0ltr V6's with very cheap insurance or that people hog the middle lane (where signed to keep left) or that almost no sign at night is illuminated, or that people drive in thongs, or that they don't learn car control with being in an auto, drive far too close and like stupid in the wet. NO - ONLY SPEED MATTERS IN AUSTRALIAN ROAD SAFETY So the only way you can't help the State revenue is by not speeding. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying on here like many do when this matter comes up, "Well if you didn't speed...." What I am saying is that their whole road safety policy is screwed because it only focus on the one thing that lines State revenue's pockets. Agreed. Are you sure you don't want to add in some pontificating too though? S |
Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
if your speeding, then its no ones fault but your own if you get caught and have to pay a big fine
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Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by dave99
(Post 8866918)
if your speeding, then its no ones fault but your own if you get caught and have to pay a big fine
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Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by kelli28
(Post 8866927)
Thanks for letting us know
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Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Be careful of the points, NSW suspends thousands of drivers every week. Double points on public holiday weekends too.
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Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by Steve2009
(Post 8867022)
Be careful of the points, NSW suspends thousands of drivers every week. Double points on public holiday weekends too.
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Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Its a pain here for speeding tickets.
Hubby is the most careful driver, and never had any speeding tickets in his life until we came here. Came to Australia and got caught on the outskirts of town, they reckon he was doing 75 in 70 road. However we were not so sure and it was also a big hill and inbetween 2 speeding signs. We paid up but still unsure whether he was actually speeding. Ive since read that my town has been conning people by doing speeding inbetween speed signs and up hills. Which is how we got our fine. So even if your normally a careful driver your probably going to get stuck with a speeding fine sooner than later in Aus. Gems |
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Ive since read that my town has been conning people by doing speeding inbetween speed signs and up hills. Which is how we got our fine.
Also they now hide the camera in bushes which isnt supposed to be done. For those who dont know this is illegal and they are not supposed to do it. |
Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by Red_V_Roger
(Post 8866863)
Welcome to Australia.
Just remember one thing...speed is the route of all evil in Australia and is (as I have a reply letter from the NSW RTA to prove) their only real considered cause of accidents. It doesn't matter that 17 year old kids can drive 3.0ltr V6's with very cheap insurance or that people hog the middle lane (where signed to keep left) or that almost no sign at night is illuminated, or that people drive in thongs, or that they don't learn car control with being in an auto, drive far too close and like stupid in the wet. NO - ONLY SPEED MATTERS IN AUSTRALIAN ROAD SAFETY So the only way you can't help the State revenue is by not speeding. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying on here like many do when this matter comes up, "Well if you didn't speed...." What I am saying is that their whole road safety policy is screwed because it only focus on the one thing that lines State revenue's pockets. I think they also need do an advanced lesson on how to use the left lane. Many times I have been at the back of someone driving slow in the outside lane, not once do they look in the rear view mirror!! I'm not sure they know how to use it!! Most drivers seem to only be aware of whats in front of them and not around them. Don't get me started on driving in the rain, jeez they seem to lose the little driving ability they have altogether. Maybe they need rain driving lessons too!! |
Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by Gems
(Post 8867035)
Its a pain here for speeding tickets.
Hubby is the most careful driver, and never had any speeding tickets in his life until we came here. Came to Australia and got caught on the outskirts of town, they reckon he was doing 75 in 70 road. However we were not so sure and it was also a big hill and inbetween 2 speeding signs. We paid up but still unsure whether he was actually speeding. Ive since read that my town has been conning people by doing speeding inbetween speed signs and up hills. Which is how we got our fine. So even if your normally a careful driver your probably going to get stuck with a speeding fine sooner than later in Aus. Gems |
Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by markbhx
(Post 8867139)
The road law is completely backwards. I saw a porsche on P plates and was full of kids, obviously daddys car or they were drug dealers! Thats ok though because a 17yo would never speed in a porsche with his mates in the back!!
I think they also need do an advanced lesson on how to use the left lane. Many times I have been at the back of someone driving slow in the outside lane, not once do they look in the rear view mirror!! I'm not sure they know how to use it!! Most drivers seem to only be aware of whats in front of them and not around them. Don't get me started on driving in the rain, jeez they seem to lose the little driving ability they have altogether. Maybe they need rain driving lessons too!! |
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Do you ever think that drivers who drive slower than you are tossers but anyone who drives faster than you is a total maniac?
Anyway, there are too many aggressive drivers over here. Living in Vaucluse I see many yuppies weaving in and out of lanes with no indication and very little space. Australians in person, generally are lovely people. Put them in a car and they become instant assholes. Ok so thats generalising, sue me. |
Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by markbhx
(Post 8867139)
The road law is completely backwards. I saw a porsche on P plates and was full of kids, obviously daddys car or they were drug dealers! Thats ok though because a 17yo would never speed in a porsche with his mates in the back!!
I think they also need do an advanced lesson on how to use the left lane. Many times I have been at the back of someone driving slow in the outside lane, not once do they look in the rear view mirror!! I'm not sure they know how to use it!! Most drivers seem to only be aware of whats in front of them and not around them. Don't get me started on driving in the rain, jeez they seem to lose the little driving ability they have altogether. Maybe they need rain driving lessons too!! Their reply said that they had addressed this aleady limiting P plates to nothing larger than a V6, no turbos and no superchargers. So that's alright then...:eek::eek::eek: |
Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by Amazulu
(Post 8867153)
Interestingly, a friend of ours in on holiday in the UK at the moment and has just been done twice in a week for speeding! I saw few cameras when I was there recently (although there are now a lot more of those average speed setups on the motorways) - and even less cops. I guess she has been unlucky.
http://www.breakdowncover.org/news/s...era-switch-off |
Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by markbhx
(Post 8867175)
And they are switching the cameras off as the local council claims it cant afford to run them lol
http://www.breakdowncover.org/news/s...era-switch-off |
Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by Amazulu
(Post 8867153)
Interestingly, a friend of ours in on holiday in the UK at the moment and has just been done twice in a week for speeding! I saw few cameras when I was there recently (although there are now a lot more of those average speed setups on the motorways) - and even less cops. I guess she has been unlucky.
Many cops have been dragged kicking and screaming from their specialist positions - like traffic, motorway and CID - back to plodding around council estates.
Originally Posted by Red_V_Roger
(Post 8867168)
In the letter that I wrote to the RTA, one of the subjects I addressed was limiting P platers to small cars, perhaps by making the insurance premiums absoluetly massive - like happens in the UK.
Their reply said that they had addressed this aleady limiting P plates to nothing larger than a V6, no turbos and no superchargers. So that's alright then...:eek::eek::eek: Nothing larger than a 1.6 would be a better idea! I have said it before and I will no doubt say it again, but I think the predominance of auto cars here breeds people into being shitty drivers. they get lazy, just sitting in the car and pressing the go pedal. There's very little awareness of anything that is going on around them, nor of getting the car to the correct speed before committing themselves to a course of action. S |
Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by Swerv-o
(Post 8867183)
Many cops have been dragged kicking and screaming from their specialist positions - like traffic, motorway and CID - back to plodding around council estates.
Nothing larger than a 1.6 would be a better idea! I have said it before and I will no doubt say it again, but I think the predominance of auto cars here breeds people into being shitty drivers. they get lazy, just sitting in the car and pressing the go pedal. There's very little awareness of anything that is going on around them, nor of getting the car to the correct speed before committing themselves to a course of action. S |
Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by Red_V_Roger
(Post 8867168)
In the letter that I wrote to the RTA, one of the subjects I addressed was limiting P platers to small cars, perhaps by making the insurance premiums absoluetly massive - like happens in the UK.
Their reply said that they had addressed this aleady limiting P plates to nothing larger than a V6, no turbos and no superchargers. So that's alright then...:eek::eek::eek: Madness. |
Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Oh yes, welcome to Oz!
The worst thing in certainly in Melbourne is that they can take months to get the tickets out so you have no idea if you've been caught, at least in the UK don't they have to issue a ticket within a certain period or it's void? Ours was on the road from Esperance to Ravensthorpe over a two hour drive with nothing on the road, except the cop car who caught us doing 136 in a 120, we pleaded it's because we were going downhill at the time! Luckily he didn't catch us earlier going even faster - which is pretty amazing in a hired Toyota Corolla :lol: Anyway, luckily we were tourists at the time so we just paid the fine as we knew we'd be going back to WA at some point. We, I don't know why I say we because OH was driving at the time, also got caught in Perth with a copper disguised as a gardener by the roadside, cheeky sods! A friend of ours was caught just over the VIC border coming back from SA, again nothing on the road except the cop car, unfortunately because he was going 20k over the limit he got a months ban. What was weird is that the ban didn't start immediately but about 3 weeks later which was a pain as it ended up being during that really hot spell we had last year so meant him cycling to work during 40 degrees, he was not happy! It is ridiculous here that a clapped out old bogan car can be trundling around the roads, spewing out dirty exhaust, bits dropping off it, heaven knows what the brakes and tyres are like (more likely to cause an accident) and that is perfectly okay but you go 2ks over the limit and you're nabbed! What causes accidents here is lane changing, give me the M25 anyday compared to the Monash or the freeway out west! As the OP says no one is aware of what is going on around them they just drive in their own little bubbles! Mostly it's to raise revenue! |
Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by Swerv-o
(Post 8867183)
Many cops have been dragged kicking and screaming from their specialist positions - like traffic, motorway and CID - back to plodding around council estates.
Nothing larger than a 1.6 would be a better idea! I have said it before and I will no doubt say it again, but I think the predominance of auto cars here breeds people into being shitty drivers. they get lazy, just sitting in the car and pressing the go pedal. There's very little awareness of anything that is going on around them, nor of getting the car to the correct speed before committing themselves to a course of action. S |
Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by Amazulu
(Post 8867190)
Yes, this is a ridiculous aspect of the driving rules in Australia - it's an almost 3rd world situation and should not be allowed. A few years ago there was an horrific crash near us. 2 18/19yo killed, 2 paraplegic. What were they driving? A barely legal V8 Commodore with no insurance.
Madness. In other parts of the world I think that would be called a technical :) S |
Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by Red_V_Roger
(Post 8866863)
So the only way you can't help the State revenue is by not speeding. . |
Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by markbhx
(Post 8867139)
The road law is completely backwards. I saw a porsche on P plates and was full of kids, obviously daddys car or they were drug dealers! Thats ok though because a 17yo would never speed in a porsche with his mates in the back!!...
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Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by Amazulu
(Post 8867157)
I was over in the UK recently and I didn't think the driving standard was that much better to be honest. Drivers are definitely more courteous and probably drive better at higher speeds but I didn't think that general driving standards were better than here. On the other hand, driving standards in Germany and Austria were very good. Driving there was a dream.
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Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by markbhx
(Post 8867194)
A car with a 3rd pedal is just too complicated for some people!! Dont forget they use cruise control all the time as well, I'm surprised they are even awake while driving.
I wish people would use cruise control more often. I hate the numpties whose speed is linked directly to how much they are talking to their passenger or on the phone. i.e. the more they talk, the slower they drive holding everyone up. :thumbdown: They should be driving, not talking. :rolleyes: |
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Wonder what the stats are on crashed cars and whether their manual or auto.
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I had a friend who was speeding and was pulled over by the police. She said it was ok to speed in the UK, no surprise she got three points and a fine. What out for the school zones 40Kph only at certain times. New country new laws, expect to have fines and points if you don't abide by them.
I have to admit that driving on the motorways is a lot more chilled out in Aus than the UK, just a little slower. Get a car with cruise control, saves a fortune on fines. |
Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by Gems
(Post 8867035)
Its a pain here for speeding tickets.
Hubby is the most careful driver, and never had any speeding tickets in his life until we came here. Came to Australia and got caught on the outskirts of town, they reckon he was doing 75 in 70 road. However we were not so sure and it was also a big hill and inbetween 2 speeding signs. We paid up but still unsure whether he was actually speeding. Ive since read that my town has been conning people by doing speeding inbetween speed signs and up hills. Which is how we got our fine. So even if your normally a careful driver your probably going to get stuck with a speeding fine sooner than later in Aus. Gems |
Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by 897nicole
(Post 8877806)
I had a friend who was speeding and was pulled over by the police. She said it was ok to speed in the UK, no surprise she got three points and a fine. What out for the school zones 40Kph only at certain times. New country new laws, expect to have fines and points if you don't abide by them.
I have to admit that driving on the motorways is a lot more chilled out in Aus than the UK, just a little slower. Get a car with cruise control, saves a fortune on fines. |
Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by Steve2009
(Post 8877828)
Saw an outrageous speed trap on the Sunshine Motorway over the weekend, in a blind dip 100 metres before a speed limit increase sign.
People acclerating from 80 to 100 in the 80 on a totally open road - say progressing through the 80s before they hit the sign are breaking the law, but they are not dangerous. |
Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by dave99
(Post 8866918)
if your speeding, then its no ones fault but your own if you get caught and have to pay a big fine
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Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by paddyo
(Post 8877900)
The OP never for one moment suggested it was!
ah ha! |
Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by koalakim
(Post 8867191)
The worst thing in certainly in Melbourne is that they can take months to get the tickets out so you have no idea if you've been caught
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Totally agree on the speeding cameras and bad driving, however the UK is way way worse for speeding detection now with the average speed cameras they use there. If one bastard device was ever invented it is that, and they've no doubt fixed the inability of it to work if you've changed lanes by now. Australia being behind the times in most things is a benefit that in that we don't have these yet.
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Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by jimbo_d
(Post 8880492)
Totally agree on the speeding cameras and bad driving, however the UK is way way worse for speeding detection now with the average speed cameras they use there.
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Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by Gems
(Post 8867035)
Came to Australia and got caught on the outskirts of town, they reckon he was doing 75 in 70 road.
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Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by discobay
(Post 8880751)
But in most states here you can't use speed camera detectors - does that make the Australian authorities advanced or scared?
Scared. Imagine the untold millions in fines revenue they would lose. S |
Re: Watch out..are you speeding?
Originally Posted by Swerv-o
(Post 8880771)
Scared. Imagine the untold millions in fines revenue they would lose.
S True ... so true. |
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