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Old May 13th 2021, 8:02 am
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Originally Posted by Beoz
Not sure about that. With Dan out of action Victoria has been very quiet of late. Just like his counterparts in QLD and WA, Dan was always eager to front the camera's with his only weapon - rule with an iron fist.
No he's okay, but no Bismark.Not even close.
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No he's okay, but no Bismark.Not even close.
Dan is not OK. He is a mockery
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Originally Posted by Beoz
Dan is not OK. He is a mockery
In a country famed for producing mediocre to bad politicians, he stacks up okay. As I said no Bismark, but not as bad as you and Sky news would like the public to believe.
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True I suppose - at least insofar as the UK is concerned. Blimey, I'm so glad to not be living there.
Amen to that. The UK is a nice country and an okay place to live but you have to make too many compromises in order to have a nice life there - unless spectacularly wealthy of course.
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Amen to that. The UK is a nice country and an okay place to live but you have to make too many compromises in order to have a nice life there - unless spectacularly wealthy of course.
Compromises is something required most anywhere. UK no longer relaxed as it was going back a few decades. One thing noted by many Aussies for example going back to the eighties and before, was how less materialistic England when compared to Australia. More social life, even if revolved around the pub , but the changing political /economic policies since that period has seen little difference in either. High prices, added stress and austerity being a feature of both to a more or lesser degree.
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Compromises is something required most anywhere. UK no longer relaxed as it was going back a few decades. One thing noted by many Aussies for example going back to the eighties and before, was how less materialistic England when compared to Australia. More social life, even if revolved around the pub , but the changing political /economic policies since that period has seen little difference in either. High prices, added stress and austerity being a feature of both to a more or lesser degree.
Yep, the UK has changed heaps, it's become a very overcrowded island. Still love the place, but glad it's just for holidays now and no longer the place I call home.
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Compromises is something required most anywhere. UK no longer relaxed as it was going back a few decades. One thing noted by many Aussies for example going back to the eighties and before, was how less materialistic England when compared to Australia. More social life, even if revolved around the pub , but the changing political /economic policies since that period has seen little difference in either. High prices, added stress and austerity being a feature of both to a more or lesser degree.
The 80s were a long time ago. Deal with the world we have today and get on with your life. Compromise is indeed required wherever you live but in the UK, you compromise more than you do in Australia
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The 80s were a long time ago. Deal with the world we have today and get on with your life. Compromise is indeed required wherever you live but in the UK, you compromise more than you do in Australia
Thing being though it should surely be getting better and not worse over time? It's not so much a question of dealing with the present situation, that will go without saying. It's a question of recognizing neither country is a better place than 40 years (and Before) years ago .
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Thing being though it should surely be getting better and not worse over time? It's not so much a question of dealing with the present situation, that will go without saying. It's a question of recognizing neither country is a better place than 40 years (and Before) years ago .
I have no reference to Australia 40 years ago so cannot make a comparison. The UK today is much better than it was 40 years ago

Just live where you're happy and have to make the least amount of compromises. Everything else is whining and white noise
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Compromises is something required most anywhere. UK no longer relaxed as it was going back a few decades. One thing noted by many Aussies for example going back to the eighties and before, was how less materialistic England when compared to Australia. More social life, even if revolved around the pub , but the changing political /economic policies since that period has seen little difference in either. High prices, added stress and austerity being a feature of both to a more or lesser degree.
Living in the past old timer. Its called change. If you aren't making the most of the now then the past is always going to be better and you are going to be one unhappy individual. .
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Living in the past old timer. Its called change. If you aren't making the most of the now then the past is always going to be better and you are going to be one unhappy individual. .
No besides yet another patronizing remark from a light weight as yourself, it is worth noting change is for the worse. You see I don't ,unlike you necessary speak on an individual basis, as obviously time creates or should create a greater sense . economic well being, especially for that generation , but overall the 'change' has not been for the better, with most of us being impacted one way or another.
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I have no reference to Australia 40 years ago so cannot make a comparison. The UK today is much better than it was 40 years ago

Just live where you're happy and have to make the least amount of compromises. Everything else is whining and white noise
No the UK is definitely not a better place today. It is more divided ., more insular, but saying that certain features remain regardless of politics and division.
Australia besides adapting a broader attitude in parts is most certainly not the relaxed, fairly easy going country of forty years ago.

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No the UK is definitely not a better place today. It is more divided ., more insular, but saying that certain features remain regardless of politics and division.
Australia besides adapting a broader attitude in parts is most certainly not the relaxed, fairly easy going country of forty years ago.
The UK is most definitely a better place today. I first went there as a teenager in the early 80s and after decades of socialism, the place was a grim, failing shithole which was in the process of being saved by a fairly new government. As the rot was deeply embedded it was inevitable that it was going to take time. And saved it was. I spent 10 years there from 1995 and the place had most definitely been turned around. Still not a really great place to live but pleasant enough with lots of opportunity if you were prepared to give it a go - my wife and I certainly did very well there

I came to Australia in 2005. It was great then and has got progressively better since. A fantastic place to live, earn a crust and set yourself up for the future

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The UK is most definitely a better place today. I first went there as a teenager in the early 80s and after decades of socialism, the place was a grim, failing shithole which was in the process of being saved by a fairly new government. As the rot was deeply embedded it was inevitable that it was going to take time. And saved it was. I spent 10 years there from 1995 and the place had most definitely been turned around. Still not a really great place to live but pleasant enough with lots of opportunity if you were prepared to give it a go - my wife and I certainly did very well there

I came to Australia in 2005. It was great then and has got progressively better since. A fantastic place to live, earn a crust and set yourself up for the future

Just get on with life champ
London for a young person was the best in late seventies/early eighties. . Best music. Best street scene in Europe. Plenty of very affordable eating places. People reasonably happy with their lot. Just a great place to be. Socialism
is what created a better UK after the war. NHS was envy of the world. People were not so divided . Certainly not hundreds of times pay variants between CEO's and workers. Thatcher ruined the party. Life became ever more stressful. More expensive. Life became more concerned with money, becoming a younger person's game. Almost everyone without exception that I knew left London within fifteen years. It became too expensive. Too competitive and far less a city catering to all . Nothing about giving it a go. A mercenary place in many respects , with a get in, make as much lucre as possible, get out. A great city to visit. But a very diminished place to live.
Australia's overall decline was not long before 2005. The boom saw prices hiked to later become among the most expensive in the world. It was the real kick start to inequality and rapid changes to way of life. We as Britain are certainly not better places for it. A better question would be can the present system continue the way it is? Very doubtful. Expect bigger changes to life quality over coming years. Old ideologies have failed.

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London for a young person was the best in late seventies/early eighties. . Best music. Best street scene in Europe. Plenty of very affordable eating places. People reasonably happy with their lot. Just a great place to be. Socialism
is what created a better UK after the war. NHS was envy of the world. People were not so divided . Certainly not hundreds of times pay variants between CEO's and workers. Thatcher ruined the party. Life became ever more stressful. More expensive. Life became more concerned with money, becoming a younger person's game. Almost everyone without exception that I knew left London within fifteen years. It became too expensive. Too competitive and far less a city catering to all . Nothing about giving it a go. A mercenary place in many respects , with a get in, make as much lucre as possible, get out. A great city to visit. But a very diminished place to live.
I agree that today London is very much a diminished place to live but I definitely wouldn't put late 70s early 80s as it's heyday for a young person. Are you sure that wasn't just your youmg person heyday there? London was a very unsettled place at the time you're describing, there was the fall-out from the very messy and restless end of Labour rule (why do Labour rules always end very messily!?) and the change over to a more patriotic and responsible government, We had the council tax riots and the Brixton riots, no that wasnt a time of undiluted pleasure. But we had the Silver Jubilee, a couple of good long and hot summers, a royal wedding and music and fashion was at a zenith but then music and fashion went through a negative period of being a bit tribal, shudder the thought of being a mod or a rude boy or girl and going into town and encountering a gang of rockers or punks. So yeah they were heady, exciting, and fun times for London but not its best. I suspect that in living memory that period may have been 15 or 20 years earlier... In non living memory maybe the inter war years?
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