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Old Oct 8th 2003, 11:14 pm
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The EU has managed to create a single employment market by removing the visa requirement to work across member states. NZ and Australia have managed the same.

It strikes me that NZ, Australia, UK, Canada, US, EU, Singapore, Hong Kong and other economically mature countries could forge a similiar agreement.

A visa is only a computer record and a piece of paper. It may have been aquired because of skills but the year long waiting is rediculous and an unnecessary use of public resources.
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Originally posted by bondipom
The EU has managed to create a single employment market by removing the visa requirement to work across member states. NZ and Australia have managed the same.

It strikes me that NZ, Australia, UK, Canada, US, EU, Singapore, Hong Kong and other economically mature countries could forge a similiar agreement.

A visa is only a computer record and a piece of paper. It may have been aquired because of skills but the year long waiting is rediculous and an unnecessary use of public resources.
Wishful thinking indeed. Perhaps some day, the economies that you mentioned would allow visa-free residency (instead of just visa-free visitation) rights to their citizens...

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Wishful thinking indeed. Perhaps some day, the economies that you mentioned would allow visa-free residency (instead of just visa-free visitation) rights to their citizens...

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At the moment it is wishful thinking but in post war Europe the current EU would have seemed fanciful.
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I take it you don't subscribe to issues such as national security and managing population numbers then ... a visa is far more than a computer record.

Visas allow (or should allow - the UK excepted it seems) countries to manage inflows and outflows of individuals, and in these times of heightened concerns (and I speak in a pesonal capacity here) I am happy to have waited to receive my visa and to queue at the immigration desk when I arrive in Australia.

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Originally posted by bondipom
The EU has managed to create a single employment market by removing the visa requirement to work across member states. NZ and Australia have managed the same.

It strikes me that NZ, Australia, UK, Canada, US, EU, Singapore, Hong Kong and other economically mature countries could forge a similiar agreement.

A visa is only a computer record and a piece of paper. It may have been aquired because of skills but the year long waiting is rediculous and an unnecessary use of public resources.
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Old Oct 9th 2003, 3:26 am
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I take it you don't subscribe to issues such as national security and managing population numbers then ... a visa is far more than a computer record.

Visas allow (or should allow - the UK excepted it seems) countries to manage inflows and outflows of individuals, and in these times of heightened concerns (and I speak in a pesonal capacity here) I am happy to have waited to receive my visa and to queue at the immigration desk when I arrive in Australia.

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I am not saying end passport checks. The Sept 11 hijackers had visas and we all know the result. Most the listed countries have visa free access for tourism and business in the first place.

The single employment market in the EU has not seen disasterous migration flows. If anything the movements have been underwhleming. The reason I listed economically stable countries is to prevent mass economic migration.

I have no idea what the UK immigration/visa system is like except for some people who I know on marriage visas. Their experiences have been chaotic, inconsistent and lengthy.
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