Visa help
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Visa help
Hi all, having visited WA twice recently we have of course fallen for the place and had hoped to purchase a garden care franchise to allow us to move to OZ.
The buying of the franchise presents no problems at all, what is our problem is that it seems at the ripe old age of 48 we are considered too old, and because I have not held a managment position with my current employer (26 years) it seems that we are undesireables .
I/we do not posses any skills that would allow us to follow that route either.
I know its a long shot guys but if any of you bright sparks have any secrets you would care to share as far as getting a visa, they would be most welcome.
Cheers All
The buying of the franchise presents no problems at all, what is our problem is that it seems at the ripe old age of 48 we are considered too old, and because I have not held a managment position with my current employer (26 years) it seems that we are undesireables .
I/we do not posses any skills that would allow us to follow that route either.
I know its a long shot guys but if any of you bright sparks have any secrets you would care to share as far as getting a visa, they would be most welcome.
Cheers All
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Re: Visa help
Originally Posted by bisto
Hi all, having visited WA twice recently we have of course fallen for the place and had hoped to purchase a garden care franchise to allow us to move to OZ.
The buying of the franchise presents no problems at all, what is our problem is that it seems at the ripe old age of 48 we are considered too old, and because I have not held a managment position with my current employer (26 years) it seems that we are undesireables .
I/we do not posses any skills that would allow us to follow that route either.
I know its a long shot guys but if any of you bright sparks have any secrets you would care to share as far as getting a visa, they would be most welcome.
Cheers All
The buying of the franchise presents no problems at all, what is our problem is that it seems at the ripe old age of 48 we are considered too old, and because I have not held a managment position with my current employer (26 years) it seems that we are undesireables .
I/we do not posses any skills that would allow us to follow that route either.
I know its a long shot guys but if any of you bright sparks have any secrets you would care to share as far as getting a visa, they would be most welcome.
Cheers All
Check with your boss
I am sure that such a nice boss can give you a referance confirming all the many years hard work you have done as manager nudge nudge
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That is not as crazy as it sounds.
Sit back and analyse what you do.
Many people are actually managers without realising it - especially in smaller companies.
You do a job for years and take it for granted but managing may be exactly what you are doing.....it's just that you don't carry the job title.
Sit back and analyse what you do.
Many people are actually managers without realising it - especially in smaller companies.
You do a job for years and take it for granted but managing may be exactly what you are doing.....it's just that you don't carry the job title.
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Re: Visa help
Originally Posted by bisto
Hi all, having visited WA twice recently we have of course fallen for the place and had hoped to purchase a garden care franchise to allow us to move to OZ.
The buying of the franchise presents no problems at all, what is our problem is that it seems at the ripe old age of 48 we are considered too old, and because I have not held a managment position with my current employer (26 years) it seems that we are undesireables .
The buying of the franchise presents no problems at all, what is our problem is that it seems at the ripe old age of 48 we are considered too old, and because I have not held a managment position with my current employer (26 years) it seems that we are undesireables .
Jeremy
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Re: Visa help
Originally Posted by JAJ
What visa were you planning to apply for and on what basis would buying a franchise help?
Jeremy
Jeremy
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Originally Posted by bisto
It would be a business visa hence the need to buy a franchise
Be very careful. Firstly, you only get a business skilled visa based on your existing track record in the UK - look at booklet 7 on the DIMIA website. You then need to get permanent residence in Australia by setting up a business there (and meeting the requirements for PR), unless you can get immediate PR via the business talent visa.
Your age is also an issue - the temporary visas are closed unless you go for a state-sponsored visa. These may involve additional requirements from the state/territory government.
Also - DIMIA take a close look at franchises and may not accept it if the franchisor has too much control (they may see it as de-facto employment).
You need some very good professional advice before committing yourself.
Jeremy
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Re: Visa help
Originally Posted by JAJ
Be very careful. Firstly, you only get a business skilled visa based on your existing track record in the UK - look at booklet 7 on the DIMIA website. You then need to get permanent residence in Australia by setting up a business there (and meeting the requirements for PR), unless you can get immediate PR via the business talent visa.
Your age is also an issue - the temporary visas are closed unless you go for a state-sponsored visa. These may involve additional requirements from the state/territory government.
Also - DIMIA take a close look at franchises and may not accept it if the franchisor has too much control (they may see it as de-facto employment).
You need some very good professional advice before committing yourself.
Jeremy
Your age is also an issue - the temporary visas are closed unless you go for a state-sponsored visa. These may involve additional requirements from the state/territory government.
Also - DIMIA take a close look at franchises and may not accept it if the franchisor has too much control (they may see it as de-facto employment).
You need some very good professional advice before committing yourself.
Jeremy
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Re: Visa help
Originally Posted by Perthforme
Are you sure that you have not done management position at your work
Check with your boss
I am sure that such a nice boss can give you a referance confirming all the many years hard work you have done as manager nudge nudge
Check with your boss
I am sure that such a nice boss can give you a referance confirming all the many years hard work you have done as manager nudge nudge
To get in under Management skilled Migration your skills are normally measured by AIM [Australian Institute of Management] and from experience they are absolute b*stards in determining who qualifies under "Exec Management skills" and who doesn't....and regardless as to how they dress things up....it's only at Exec level that you get in.
A mate of mine, highly qualified with Master in Business Administration and at Senior Exec level within his organisation, couldn't get in to Aus as AIM determined his organisation wasn't big / important enough for his skills to actually qualify at Senior Exec level [even though he was one]
He ended up going to NZ
From experience, AIM REALLY put you through the mill. I can assure you you haven't got a cat in hell's chance if you're not a Senior Exec within a large organisation or if your skills are not extensive at this level. You have to demonstrate to the nth degree your skills and abilities and if my memory serves me right you require x years in the job with tertiary qualifications [unless maybe exceptional circumstances].
With all due respect I'd suggest you think carefully before you go down this road. You may be at this level for all I know..but beware, you can't kid a kidder...and DIMIA /AIM are a lot of things...but they aren't stupid
Have you thought of a business visa? Maybe JAJ or someone on here can explain what this is.....or if anything else is available
Good luck. Really, I hope you realise your dream
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Originally Posted by Phoenixuk2oz
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A mate of mine, highly qualified with Master in Business Administration and at Senior Exec level within his organisation, couldn't get in to Aus as AIM determined his organisation wasn't big / important enough for his skills to actually qualify at Senior Exec level [even though he was one]
He ended up going to NZ
A mate of mine, highly qualified with Master in Business Administration and at Senior Exec level within his organisation, couldn't get in to Aus as AIM determined his organisation wasn't big / important enough for his skills to actually qualify at Senior Exec level [even though he was one]
He ended up going to NZ
Jeremy
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Re: Visa help
Originally Posted by bisto
You are obviously well up to speed with this, can you suggest any alternative avenues we should be looking at?. Thanks for your time mate.
But in reality - not everyone can migrate.
For example, if you don't have a skilled occupation then a Skilled visa is unlikely to be an option, and if you don't have a business or investment track record, then a Business visa is unlikely to be granted.
Jeremy