Visa/Citizenship Confusion
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Visa/Citizenship Confusion
Right. Been staring at the site and forms for so long my head's spinning and I hope someone can clarify this for me. I acquired citizenship by descent - I have the citizenship certificate and will be toodling up to London to get my passport as soon as my doctor finishes the guarantor bits of the form. The question is - what do I do about my wife and son - apply for a visa or citizenship? Catherine has no Australian links beyond being married to me so I think she applies for a visa and then gets citizenship after two years - correct? My son Josh wasn't born when I was granted citizenship but since I haven't been resident in Australia for two years I don't he qualifies for citizenship yet, so do I apply for a separate visia for him or put him on my wife's? Any help and two aspirin greatly appreciated
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Re: Visa/Citizenship Confusion
Originally Posted by Hutch
Right. Been staring at the site and forms for so long my head's spinning and I hope someone can clarify this for me. I acquired citizenship by descent - I have the citizenship certificate and will be toodling up to London to get my passport as soon as my doctor finishes the guarantor bits of the form. The question is - what do I do about my wife and son - apply for a visa or citizenship? Catherine has no Australian links beyond being married to me so I think she applies for a visa and then gets citizenship after two years - correct? My son Josh wasn't born when I was granted citizenship but since I haven't been resident in Australia for two years I don't he qualifies for citizenship yet, so do I apply for a separate visia for him or put him on my wife's? Any help and two aspirin greatly appreciated
As for your baby i dont know!
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Re: Visa/Citizenship Confusion
Originally Posted by Hutch
Right. Been staring at the site and forms for so long my head's spinning and I hope someone can clarify this for me. I acquired citizenship by descent - I have the citizenship certificate and will be toodling up to London to get my passport as soon as my doctor finishes the guarantor bits of the form. The question is - what do I do about my wife and son - apply for a visa or citizenship? Catherine has no Australian links beyond being married to me so I think she applies for a visa and then gets citizenship after two years - correct? My son Josh wasn't born when I was granted citizenship but since I haven't been resident in Australia for two years I don't he qualifies for citizenship yet, so do I apply for a separate visia for him or put him on my wife's? Any help and two aspirin greatly appreciated
Not sure about your son, but your wife will apply for Spouse visa which is a relatively easy process. As you have a child, she will get PR right away and can apply for citizenship within 2 years.
I am sure others will be able to answer in more detail.
Good luck
Hels
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Re: Visa/Citizenship Confusion
Originally Posted by Hutch
Right. Been staring at the site and forms for so long my head's spinning and I hope someone can clarify this for me. I acquired citizenship by descent - I have the citizenship certificate and will be toodling up to London to get my passport as soon as my doctor finishes the guarantor bits of the form. The question is - what do I do about my wife and son - apply for a visa or citizenship? Catherine has no Australian links beyond being married to me so I think she applies for a visa and then gets citizenship after two years - correct? My son Josh wasn't born when I was granted citizenship but since I haven't been resident in Australia for two years I don't he qualifies for citizenship yet, so do I apply for a separate visia for him or put him on my wife's? Any help and two aspirin greatly appreciated
I'm in the same boat as you
From what I'v read you will have to apply for a spouses visa. Your son should be added to this.
I need to also start the process and apply for a passport for myself and a spouses visa for my wife and kids.
Where did you get the application form for your Ozzy passport.
Any I see you only live down the road from me ( Chipping Sodbury)
Thanks
Jon
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Re: Visa/Citizenship Confusion
Originally Posted by jonshep
Any I see you only live down the road from me ( Chipping Sodbury)
Thanks
Jon
Thanks
Jon
Hutch, come and collect your aspirin any time!
Binbird
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Re: Visa/Citizenship Confusion
Originally Posted by binbird
And we're down the road too near Cirencester. Mass exodus from this neck of the woods!
Come and collect your aspirin any time!
Binbird
Come and collect your aspirin any time!
Binbird
When and where are you hoping to go in Oz.
jon
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Re: Visa/Citizenship Confusion
Originally Posted by jonshep
Cool
When and where are you hoping to go in Oz.
jon
When and where are you hoping to go in Oz.
jon
Answer: When the bl***y house sells!
Question: Where?
Answer: Sydney (ish)!
Visa granted 2 weeks ago - would love to head out there in May and if not possible by then deffo by 1st October or we will have to waste some money validating and 5 airfares don't come cheap!
You?
Binbird
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Re: Visa/Citizenship Confusion
Originally Posted by Hutch
Right. Been staring at the site and forms for so long my head's spinning and I hope someone can clarify this for me. I acquired citizenship by descent - I have the citizenship certificate and will be toodling up to London to get my passport as soon as my doctor finishes the guarantor bits of the form. The question is - what do I do about my wife and son - apply for a visa or citizenship? Catherine has no Australian links beyond being married to me so I think she applies for a visa and then gets citizenship after two years - correct? My son Josh wasn't born when I was granted citizenship but since I haven't been resident in Australia for two years I don't he qualifies for citizenship yet, so do I apply for a separate visia for him or put him on my wife's? Any help and two aspirin greatly appreciated
She was granted citizenship by descent....with no problem. Children of citizens are automatically entitled to it- regardless. I am (almost)positive
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Re: Visa/Citizenship Confusion
Where did you get the application form for your Ozzy passport.
And yea, we're in Nailsworth - nice spot we have here, but we fell in love with Australia and we have plenty of family out there to ease the transition. I guess it helps that my wife gets on well with my parents and that they dote on my son Josh. We're just in the process of booking our flights for a two month stay (all of Dec and Jan) - bloody good deals around at the moment. Going through Dial-A-Flight we got £1450 for the two adults/one child with Cathay Pacific, which is a good thousand pounds cheaper than the last trip, although admittedly we left that late (booked July for Xmas!!) with Malaysian Airways. Only 10 months till we're out there again and I can seriously start looking into business premises and the like.
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Re: Visa/Citizenship Confusion
Originally Posted by binbird
Question: When?
Answer: When the bl***y house sells!
Question: Where?
Answer: Sydney (ish)!
Visa granted 2 weeks ago - would love to head out there in May and if not possible by then deffo by 1st October or we will have to waste some money validating and 5 airfares don't come cheap!
You?
Binbird
Answer: When the bl***y house sells!
Question: Where?
Answer: Sydney (ish)!
Visa granted 2 weeks ago - would love to head out there in May and if not possible by then deffo by 1st October or we will have to waste some money validating and 5 airfares don't come cheap!
You?
Binbird
Best of luck with the sales anyway
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Re: Visa/Citizenship Confusion
Originally Posted by desperate2go
Ok I could be wrong but my ex was granted citizenship when he was very young(about 6/7 yrs old) He has lived in the UK for the last 9 years and our daughter is 7 years old- born in UK (she has never lived in Oz ... yet )
She was granted citizenship by descent....with no problem. Children of citizens are automatically entitled to it- regardless. I am (almost)positive
She was granted citizenship by descent....with no problem. Children of citizens are automatically entitled to it- regardless. I am (almost)positive
This is to stop Australian citizenship passing indefinitely down the generations without ties to Australia being maintained.
Form 118 makes this very clear.
If your ex is a naturalised Australian then the 2 year residence requirement does not apply. Even if he was a citizen by descent, it sounds like he lived there for longer than that period anyway.
Jeremy
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Re: Visa/Citizenship Confusion
Originally Posted by Hutch
Right. Been staring at the site and forms for so long my head's spinning and I hope someone can clarify this for me. I acquired citizenship by descent - I have the citizenship certificate and will be toodling up to London to get my passport as soon as my doctor finishes the guarantor bits of the form. The question is - what do I do about my wife and son - apply for a visa or citizenship? Catherine has no Australian links beyond being married to me so I think she applies for a visa and then gets citizenship after two years - correct? My son Josh wasn't born when I was granted citizenship but since I haven't been resident in Australia for two years I don't he qualifies for citizenship yet, so do I apply for a separate visia for him or put him on my wife's? Any help and two aspirin greatly appreciated
Just include him as part of your wife's spouse visa. As long as you have been together for 2 years she will get a PR visa straight away (as will your son) and they can both become Australian citizens after 2 years in Australia.
Jeremy
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Re: Visa/Citizenship Confusion
Originally Posted by Hutch
Right. Been staring at the site and forms for so long my head's spinning and I hope someone can clarify this for me. I acquired citizenship by descent - I have the citizenship certificate and will be toodling up to London to get my passport as soon as my doctor finishes the guarantor bits of the form. The question is - what do I do about my wife and son - apply for a visa or citizenship? Catherine has no Australian links beyond being married to me so I think she applies for a visa and then gets citizenship after two years - correct? My son Josh wasn't born when I was granted citizenship but since I haven't been resident in Australia for two years I don't he qualifies for citizenship yet, so do I apply for a separate visia for him or put him on my wife's? Any help and two aspirin greatly appreciated
As you have a child your wife should get PR if you have been partners for 2 years or more. To be eligible for citizenship you must have spent 2 years in the previous 5 as a PR in Australia.
I suggest reading the above booklet and the relevant forms from the link and come back with more detailed questions. Most of the info is in there.