Vinny van Gogh

How many reading these posts and similar in the "Back to the UK" forum are having second thoughts about completing the immigration process?

Do the reports of violence indicate an increase in drunkeness in youth?

Perth is reported to have a high Brit population so is the binge booze violence evident in the UK spreading to Oz by the Brits?

Gareth W

Boozing and violence in Aus a consequence of British immigration? Jesus Christ mate, tell me you're kidding ?

Stormz

You know it makes sense....

kiwichild

Disenchanted, marginalised youth are found in most capitalist societies because social justice issues don't get addressed adequately. It's a complex issue and one that will only continue to get worse until the economic rationalists either die off or are voted out. Boredom, lack of money, lack of opportunities, lack of service provision, and families lacking coping skills, genuine interest in their offspring, and economic security all contribute.

Singapore and Japan have low crime rates but then Singapore has a harsh disciplinarian system, and in Japan family honour is still a big deal so much so that there have been instances of kids commiting suicide cos they have too much pressure put on them to achieve academically.

Educated parents who lead by example, take an active interest in their children's welfare and education, display a level of morality that fits societal expectation, show affection and support and encourage gradual increases in responsibility as the child grows combined with adequate service provision by the government, would go a long way to addressing these problems in the future.

Simone

Argh, yep, can't believe some people.

You don't think this happens in for example the Netherlands too?
And nearly every other western country.

My theory is that Oz was 'behind' for a while, with lots of things like crime and house prizes etc, but is now catching up, fast!
Also for example racism, but it's now becoming a bit more politically correct.

I think all western countries are headed in the same direction, at different speeds and levels. (don't aks me what direction, or how to fix it though... Oh, and some of the things are good of course)

Perthforme

Not putting me off at all, i live in one of the nicest parts of the uk, but it still as its problems.
There are stories in local papers of murders, rapes, etc You name it and it happens. The street i live in is very nice all familys with young kids but well known local drugy moved in the other month and been raided twice that i know of by the cops!!!
In the town centre there are windows smashed all the time, fights, stabbings, glassings in pubs, ram raids. I could go no .........
But it realy is a sought after area very high property prices etc and the crime rate is half the uk average.
The way i see it there are probs every where.
For us there is no way i could afford a house any bigger that the 2 bed box we live in now. So moving to perth i can get 4 beds not 2 beds and wipe out most if not all of the mortgage.
Add to that the life style weather etc and i will be happy and settled.
I love surfing but water and waves here are cold and flat, The freezing temps and lack of day light in winter kill me.
I know what oz is like lived there before and now can afford to live there in comfort.
The hoons drunks etc will not stop me living a better life.
Bring it on

moneypenny20

As others have said, regardless of what the Daily Mail says, it is a worldwide problem not a British problem.

Some countries possibly deal with it better than others.

Renth's problem was horrendous, but the most quoted phrase on here must be "same sh*t, shinier bucket" - very true but to be honest, although I hate that side of life, how scary and wierd would life be if everyone behaved themselves and there were no hoons, drunks, druggies etc. We would be living in Orwell's 1984 and I will give that a miss thank you.

All you can do, is try and educate and love your children enough and ensure they understand good and bad behaviour and the rights and wrongs of life.

Think I need to go and lie down now. Don't often get that serious :scared:

Perthforme

Maybe the reason most of those trying to emigate are shocked by crime etc is that (and its a general thing ok ) most of those going to oz are those that are skilled and have stableish lives.
Been to uni , college ,etc work hard , dont break the law (if you do then no entry ) and are trying better themselves, and improve live for the family.
No one likes crime but it happens & normaly to someone else

pompeywill

Of course I blame eastenders

Perthforme

Hey don't knock eastenders its perfect if you are feelin to happy and want to come down and frown
Note you have not much karma so sending you some as i love your fireman and advise all others to do the same
How is the house build coming or should i not ask ?

Sorry run out of karma again give it tomorrow

Perthforme

oh worked now there u go pompeywill

Amazulu

Interesting. I used to live in Richmond in London, a very nice area. On friday night after kicking out time there was always loads of fights, screaming & shouting, vandalism etc. It can happen anywhere.

aussie73

Crime in OZ is no worse or slighly lower then the Uk, so it is no reason not to immigrate to OZ because you are no more likely to be a victim of crime in OZ then the Uk. If you want to advoid crime then immigrate to some boring country like Singapore.

MrsDagboy

Something similar happened down the Gold Coast a couple of weeks ago (& on other occasions).

jad n rich

Blame britain

Get real, aussies are the perfect race on brit TV only. In real life we could could drink, spew, swear, fight, steal, crash cars, hoon, shag and generally misbehave just as well as any other race, in fact probably better.