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Old Aug 6th 2009, 2:14 am
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Not much change in Unemployment figures this month...

From the ABS

Unemployment increased by 800 to 664,100
  • The Australian Trend unemployment rate moved in July 2009 from 5.8% to 5.9%
  • The Australian Seasonally Adjusted unemployment rate remained the same at 5.8%

But looking at the Original figures, for the last 13 months, before amending for trend and season, we get this....

Unemployed - looking for full-time work ; Persons ;
301,775 Jul-2008
302,447 Aug-2008
323,228 Sep-2008
319,124 Oct-2008
330,002 Nov-2008
354,236 Dec-2008
440,746 Jan-2009
495,264 Feb-2009
482,089 Mar-2009
460,869 Apr-2009
499,566 May-2009
502,573 Jun-2009
457,318 Jul-2009


Unemployed - looking for part-time work ; Persons ;
138,570 Jul-2008
130,730 Aug-2008
164,251 Sep-2008
142,476 Oct-2008
136,307 Nov-2008
154,229 Dec-2008
162,861 Jan-2009
191,308 Feb-2009
214,617 Mar-2009
179,344 Apr-2009
168,193 May-2009
151,244 Jun-2009
148,438 Jul-2009
 
Old Aug 6th 2009, 7:05 am
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Default Re: Unemployment July 2009

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
Not much change in Unemployment figures this month...

From the ABS

Unemployment increased by 800 to 664,100
  • The Australian Trend unemployment rate moved in July 2009 from 5.8% to 5.9%
  • The Australian Seasonally Adjusted unemployment rate remained the same at 5.8%

But looking at the Original figures, for the last 13 months, before amending for trend and season, we get this....

Unemployed - looking for full-time work ; Persons ;
301,775 Jul-2008
302,447 Aug-2008
323,228 Sep-2008
319,124 Oct-2008
330,002 Nov-2008
354,236 Dec-2008
440,746 Jan-2009
495,264 Feb-2009
482,089 Mar-2009
460,869 Apr-2009
499,566 May-2009
502,573 Jun-2009
457,318 Jul-2009


Unemployed - looking for part-time work ; Persons ;
138,570 Jul-2008
130,730 Aug-2008
164,251 Sep-2008
142,476 Oct-2008
136,307 Nov-2008
154,229 Dec-2008
162,861 Jan-2009
191,308 Feb-2009
214,617 Mar-2009
179,344 Apr-2009
168,193 May-2009
151,244 Jun-2009
148,438 Jul-2009
then why do i know 6 people who've just lost their jobs plus a few more whos hours have been cut? sounds like some massaging of figures to me....
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Old Aug 6th 2009, 7:33 am
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then why do i know 6 people who've just lost their jobs plus a few more whos hours have been cut? sounds like some massaging of figures to me....
There isn't a government that doesn't. We are taking on staff
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Old Aug 6th 2009, 9:46 am
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then why do i know 6 people who've just lost their jobs plus a few more whos hours have been cut? sounds like some massaging of figures to me....
Different locations have different figures, these are the averages for the entire country.

Toowoomba, in QLD, for example has an unemployment rate of under 2%.
Illawarra in NSW, is about 10%.

Some places are hiring, some are firing, and it averages out..
 
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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
Different locations have different figures, these are the averages for the entire country.

Toowoomba, in QLD, for example has an unemployment rate of under 2%.
Illawarra in NSW, is about 10%.

Some places are hiring, some are firing, and it averages out..
I do know 5.8 is fantastic overall result. They were fearing for worst.

With recent equity market rise & optimism, I hope jobs are safe for all of us...
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Thanks to a post on Average Wages, I saw this graph a short while ago, at: http://www.news.com.au/business/stor...56-462,00.html

 
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The media is as corrupt with spin as the UK here.
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The media is as corrupt with spin as the UK here.
nah ......its different here
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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
The Aus trend is still on the UP.

According to the chart:
Aus unemployment + 50% since Sept 09, (4% -6%)
US unemployment + 55% since Sept 09, (6% - 9.5%)
Spainish unemployment + 30% since Sept 09, (12% - 18%)

So basically, were doing as well as the US
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Originally Posted by mindblower
The media is as corrupt with spin as the UK here.
No, Australian media is more corrupt than UK.

At least in the UK you have investigative journalists who challenged every article written. Here, nothing. They get away with any old drivel, the market isn't cut throat enough. Here in WA we have one newspaper - The West and 66% of their revenue comes from Real Estate advertising so all news is bias towards Real Estate, keeps the clients happy and the $$$ rolling in.

Aussies in general take what they read as gospel, whereas, I'd say the Brits are more sceptical and don't believe everything they read.
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Old Aug 15th 2009, 5:07 am
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Originally Posted by northernlights
The Aus trend is still on the UP.
Of course it has been going up. That's what my earlier figures have been showing...
Unemployed - looking for full-time work ; Persons ;
301,775 Jul-2008
302,447 Aug-2008
323,228 Sep-2008
319,124 Oct-2008
330,002 Nov-2008
354,236 Dec-2008
440,746 Jan-2009
495,264 Feb-2009
482,089 Mar-2009
460,869 Apr-2009
499,566 May-2009
502,573 Jun-2009
457,318 Jul-2009
But the same as the US ?
  • US unemployment 9.5%
  • Australia unemployment 5.8%
Hmm, maybe both going up, but i'd rather be a worker in Australia than in the US. What about you ?
 
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Originally Posted by northernlights
Aussies in general take what they read as gospel, whereas, I'd say the Brits are more sceptical and don't believe everything they read.
Should we NOT believe that unemployment is actually going up then ?

The newspapers are saying it is, and you say we shouldn't believe what we read ...
 
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Should we NOT believe that unemployment is actually going up then ?

The newspapers are saying it is, and you say we shouldn't believe what we read ...
i dont think she actually meant that.........its just that the uk has so many crap news papers ,the sun,mirror,star,news of the world etc etc,that are full of made up celeb crap,politcal rubbish.Brits are just more "aware" of what they read and dont take it for gospel.
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Old Aug 15th 2009, 6:12 am
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Originally Posted by nigel and wendy
i dont think she actually meant that.........its just that the uk has so many crap news papers ,the sun,mirror,star,news of the world etc etc,that are full of made up celeb crap,politcal rubbish.Brits are just more "aware" of what they read and dont take it for gospel.
Many Australians think that the British are taken in by what the British media publishes, but...

Many British also seem to think that the Australians are taken in by what the Australian media publishes

One day, maybe people will realise that just because something is published doesn't mean it is true, or that those who read it believe it to be true
 
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Many Australians think that the British are taken in by what the British media publishes, but...

Many British also seem to think that the Australians are taken in by what the Australian media publishes

One day, maybe people will realise that just because something is published doesn't mean it is true, or that those who read it believe it to be true
yeah i suppose..........but most people arnt clever like us and dont seem to relise there is a big wide world out there and belive anything they see on the tv/papers.............perhaps there should be some sort of regulation over this, oh hang on...........they should have said that about bankers 10 years ago !!!!! but thats another story !!!!
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