spottydog

I recently ordered some trousers from Bon Marche and discovered they don't take off the VAT when shipping to Aus. This is the first company to charge VAT on exports and I was wondering what other companies do this so I can avoid them too?

Amazulu

M&S charge VAT too
Amazon.co.uk don't

Swerv-o

I bought a squash racquet from an Amazon Marketplace seller, and they didn't take the VAT off.

It was still half the price of the same model in Australia though, so mustn't grumble too much.


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Amazulu

Cool. I've never bought anything from Amazon Marketplace

Interestingly, I've bought stuff from Amazon .UK and .de that is cheaper shipped to Australia than it costs in the UK and Germany because they deduct the VAT

Swerv-o

Yes, I have frequently found this - the shipping is often offset by the VAT deduction, plus it was cheaper in the first place.

Amazon.de usually better with the VAT deductions as well.


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Amazulu

.de has cheaper shipping rates than .co.uk too

Direct shipping rates from amazon.com are also very reasonable

Postage from Japan is good value - Rakuten is one of my favourite online shopping sites

spottydog

I've only previously bought from small companies and Amazon directly in the UK so assumed all big companies would take off the Vat before shipping. Interesting to hear M&S don't either, will be more careful in future where I buy from as I feel a bit ripped off when companies charge me more (given it is VAT free to them).

Amazulu

M&S have free shipping over GBP30 (sometimes free) which I guess is covered by the VAT

renth

Last time I checked M&S doesn't technically charge VAT, it didn't appear on the invoice BUT the price was the same as the UK with VAT. I emailed them about it and they said "we don't charge VAT blah blah blah" but in that case they do charge a 20% premium for overseas orders. I guess that's what the "free" shipping is.

GarryP

If the called it VAT they would have to give it to Mr Taxman (them's the rules). So if they just use it as a surcharge to cover the postage they can both make a bit on the delivery costs, and keep their system simple.

"Don't mention the VAT. I mentioned it once but I think I got away with it."

renth

It makes me mad. I was complaining to the guy at the till at M&S in London Colney about this. I've never seen anyone glaze over with disinterest so fast.

GarryP

VAT vs postage - its usually roughly a wash.

For M&S for instance, you can roughly work out how much it would cost to post, then compare to the VAT.

It it were small and high value, it might be another matter.

The only time I get miffed is when its VAT+postage, or they won't send to Australia at all.

renth

But it's the fact they pretend they do free postage that pisses me off!

spottydog

Bon Marche charged VAT and postage which guarantees I won't be shopping with them again.

Alfresco

You chat to cashiers in the UK? I thought only Ozzie cashiers chatted to customers.