Travel insurance
#16
Re: Travel insurance
Buggered if I know how people travel without travel insurance. Get sick or injure yourself in a transit country, need to be repatriated to your home country, fall sick prior to travel and lose the value of your air ticket and accommodation - all of those scenarios would see you lose far more than the cost of your insurance.
Bit close to home at the moment, I've managed to get pleurisy on my visit home to Oz and I'm supposed to be going to Bali for a week tomorrow with one of my sisters. Doc appointment in an hour to declare whether I'm fit to travel. If I'm not, the only saving grace is my travel insurance will reimburse the $4,000 that my part of the trip cost.
Bit close to home at the moment, I've managed to get pleurisy on my visit home to Oz and I'm supposed to be going to Bali for a week tomorrow with one of my sisters. Doc appointment in an hour to declare whether I'm fit to travel. If I'm not, the only saving grace is my travel insurance will reimburse the $4,000 that my part of the trip cost.
I'm with you - the cost of repatriation etc - definitely worth the premium even though they get a bit steep when you are over 65
#17
Re: Travel insurance
Thanks quoll I'm going to put the insurance money away and use it for a nice weekend in London when my sister visits me in November
#18
Re: Travel insurance
Be aware that if you get sick/visit GP/ admitted to hospiral etc after taking out an insurance policy and don't tell the insurance company, then if you do travel your insurance policy is invalidated.
This happened to someone i know that had visited GP with a cough 2 weeks before travel and on flight had coughing fit requiring oxygen and then refused boarding onto International connecting flight till certified fit to travel.
This unplanned stopover of 4 days was in the USA where we all know how expensive medical treatment can be especially with no insurance!
This happened to someone i know that had visited GP with a cough 2 weeks before travel and on flight had coughing fit requiring oxygen and then refused boarding onto International connecting flight till certified fit to travel.
This unplanned stopover of 4 days was in the USA where we all know how expensive medical treatment can be especially with no insurance!
#19
Re: Travel insurance
Be aware that if you get sick/visit GP/ admitted to hospiral etc after taking out an insurance policy and don't tell the insurance company, then if you do travel your insurance policy is invalidated.
This happened to someone i know that had visited GP with a cough 2 weeks before travel and on flight had coughing fit requiring oxygen and then refused boarding onto International connecting flight till certified fit to travel.
This unplanned stopover of 4 days was in the USA where we all know how expensive medical treatment can be especially with no insurance!
This happened to someone i know that had visited GP with a cough 2 weeks before travel and on flight had coughing fit requiring oxygen and then refused boarding onto International connecting flight till certified fit to travel.
This unplanned stopover of 4 days was in the USA where we all know how expensive medical treatment can be especially with no insurance!
#20
Re: Travel insurance
I was really lucky with Amex. I'm booked for surgery on my knee the week after we get home so I told them and all they said was that I would not be covered for anything that happens related to the existing problem. I can live with that.
#21
Re: Travel insurance
Certificate from doctor - 'unfit to travel'
Phone call to travel insurer - all the money I've spent on flights, accommodation and medical expenses (totaling over $4,000) will be refunded
I paid 194 pounds for an annual policy, and I'll be using it again over the coming months. Pretty cheap, considering I'm already $3,600 'in front'
Phone call to travel insurer - all the money I've spent on flights, accommodation and medical expenses (totaling over $4,000) will be refunded
I paid 194 pounds for an annual policy, and I'll be using it again over the coming months. Pretty cheap, considering I'm already $3,600 'in front'
#22
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Thanks Dorothy I shouldn't whinge though, my oldest sister is looking after me and she's a great believer in toddies made with organic lemons and honey, with a decent pour of Mr Walker's black label. Don't know that it's helping the pleurisy but it makes falling down quite fun.
ps my flights were with Garuda Indonesia on a business class promo fare ($500 cancellation fee), but they've just emailed me and said if I send them my medical certificate they'll refund the fare in full! I didn't expect that.
ps my flights were with Garuda Indonesia on a business class promo fare ($500 cancellation fee), but they've just emailed me and said if I send them my medical certificate they'll refund the fare in full! I didn't expect that.
Last edited by spouse of scouse; May 16th 2016 at 1:24 am.
#23
Re: Travel insurance
Thanks Dorothy I shouldn't whinge though, my oldest sister is looking after me and she's a great believer in toddies made with organic lemons and honey, with a decent pour of Mr Walker's black label. Don't know that it's helping the pleurisy but it makes falling down quite fun.
ps my flights were with Garuda Indonesia on a business class promo fare ($500 cancellation fee), but they've just emailed me and said if I send them my medical certificate they'll refund the fare in full! I didn't expect that.
ps my flights were with Garuda Indonesia on a business class promo fare ($500 cancellation fee), but they've just emailed me and said if I send them my medical certificate they'll refund the fare in full! I didn't expect that.
#24
Re: Travel insurance
40 pounds for an annual multi-trip policy? What company?
On your trip back to the UK, what if you became ill in transit, or at your transit stopover? A few months ago in Dubai, an uninsured person had an entirely unexpected brain hemorrhage. His medical bills are AU$225,000 and rising every day.
How anyone can think that it's worth taking this sort of risk, for the sake of 'saving' a few hundred dollars, is astonishing to me.
On your trip back to the UK, what if you became ill in transit, or at your transit stopover? A few months ago in Dubai, an uninsured person had an entirely unexpected brain hemorrhage. His medical bills are AU$225,000 and rising every day.
How anyone can think that it's worth taking this sort of risk, for the sake of 'saving' a few hundred dollars, is astonishing to me.
I the UK you may be charged an extra premium but at least you are covered. In Oz you pay a hell of a lot more yet can still not be covered when you think you are.
I wrote to Doc Holiday of the Sunday Telegraph on just this subject a couple of years ago. His reply: "I agree entirely".
Funnily enough I was talking to a cruise rep last week and we were staggered at how American insurers will cover aged cruisers who are incapable of walking half a dozen steps. They presumably make a profit, so why are Australian companies as they are? The answer, of course, is because they can.
#25
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You are assuming that the insurance will pay out: one of the differences between Australian and other policies is that most of the former exclude previous history and define this as anything you've ever seen a doctor or medical professional about. In my seventies this actually covers just a out all of my carcase!
I the UK you may be charged an extra premium but at least you are covered. In Oz you pay a hell of a lot more yet can still not be covered when you think you are.
I wrote to Doc Holiday of the Sunday Telegraph on just this subject a couple of years ago. His reply: "I agree entirely".
Funnily enough I was talking to a cruise rep last week and we were staggered at how American insurers will cover aged cruisers who are incapable of walking half a dozen steps. They presumably make a profit, so why are Australian companies as they are? The answer, of course, is because they can.
I the UK you may be charged an extra premium but at least you are covered. In Oz you pay a hell of a lot more yet can still not be covered when you think you are.
I wrote to Doc Holiday of the Sunday Telegraph on just this subject a couple of years ago. His reply: "I agree entirely".
Funnily enough I was talking to a cruise rep last week and we were staggered at how American insurers will cover aged cruisers who are incapable of walking half a dozen steps. They presumably make a profit, so why are Australian companies as they are? The answer, of course, is because they can.
Both Australia and UK travel insurers ask about existing conditions etc. For the recent policy I bought in the UK, I had to declare every condition that I'd seen a doctor for in the last 12 months, as well as any existing conditions.
I've had travel insurance from both Oz and UK insurers that covered a pre-existing condition I have (once I completed an additional questionnaire, of course!).
I've received reimbursements from Oz insurers on the 2 occasions I've claimed, once for medical expenses and once when my bag was snatched off me by a guy on a motorbike in Vietnam. My UK insurer is going to reimburse me the majority of the money I've paid for the Bali trip that wasn't.
I don't see much difference at all between travel insurance in the UK and Oz. Don't know about the US though.
#26
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Re: Travel insurance
Firstly there are receptacle agreements between Australia and the two countries to are travelling to UK and Italy. In case of medical emergency you would be covered.
If you want insurance for cancelations or lost luggage that's something else. We are increasingly being conditioned to living in a culture of fear. Only spend what you consider necessary.
If you want insurance for cancelations or lost luggage that's something else. We are increasingly being conditioned to living in a culture of fear. Only spend what you consider necessary.
#27
Re: Travel insurance
Firstly there are receptacle agreements between Australia and the two countries to are travelling to UK and Italy. In case of medical emergency you would be covered.
If you want insurance for cancelations or lost luggage that's something else. We are increasingly being conditioned to living in a culture of fear. Only spend what you consider necessary.
If you want insurance for cancelations or lost luggage that's something else. We are increasingly being conditioned to living in a culture of fear. Only spend what you consider necessary.
#28
Re: Travel insurance
Firstly there are receptacle agreements between Australia and the two countries to are travelling to UK and Italy. In case of medical emergency you would be covered.
If you want insurance for cancelations or lost luggage that's something else. We are increasingly being conditioned to living in a culture of fear. Only spend what you consider necessary.
If you want insurance for cancelations or lost luggage that's something else. We are increasingly being conditioned to living in a culture of fear. Only spend what you consider necessary.
People have accidents, as drivers, passengers, pedestrians, or just tripping over. People have strokes and heart attacks, even healthy people with no previous history. People can spend months in rehab, learning to walk, eat, talk again.
I'm certainly not 'conditioned to live in fear'. For a fraction of the cost of my airfare, I can ensure that if I have an accident or get sick I receive the treatment I need, when I need it, for however long I need it, and I won't have to bankrupt myself or my family to pay for it.
You can call it being 'conditioned to live in fear' if you want to. I call it being responsible and sensible.
#29
Re: Travel insurance
As it happens, Mrs Wol and I were disembarked from our cruise ship last week and she was taken to hospital in the USA. We've just started regaining our trip after six days bed rest and zero food/liquids. Our credit card insurance facility is covering us.
The costs will be substantial: there was no question in this case of a previous condition - it was completely out of the blue - and the insurer was excellent although naturally we had to furnish them with mounds of information.
TG for a good internet connection at the hospital, and for my camera which let me send photos of the documentation!
Tip: take with you anything relevant: credit card statements when you "activated" the insurance by paying for the trip etc.
The costs will be substantial: there was no question in this case of a previous condition - it was completely out of the blue - and the insurer was excellent although naturally we had to furnish them with mounds of information.
TG for a good internet connection at the hospital, and for my camera which let me send photos of the documentation!
Tip: take with you anything relevant: credit card statements when you "activated" the insurance by paying for the trip etc.
#30
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Re: Travel insurance
Most people think of possessions when it comes to travel insurance but as one who has been repatriated with a broken back, I wouldn't ever go anywhere without it.
Another thing, slightly off topic but I enter a lot of expensive races which always involve multiple days at hotels. These races can be overseas but some are in the UK. It never occurred to me to get travel insurance for a domestic holiday but someone suggested it a few years ago and I've used it twice when i've had to pull out of races a few weeks early.
Another thing, slightly off topic but I enter a lot of expensive races which always involve multiple days at hotels. These races can be overseas but some are in the UK. It never occurred to me to get travel insurance for a domestic holiday but someone suggested it a few years ago and I've used it twice when i've had to pull out of races a few weeks early.