thugs in Aus?

Old Jun 22nd 2002, 10:05 pm
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We read a thread recently that filled us with dread. Basically it stated that burglaries are big in Aus (school clothes, kids bikes etc) but also that drunkenness and rowdieness was rife. We live near Glasgow and want to escape the "thug culture" here. Can anyone living in Aus give us a true account of these problems there?

Thanks again, Carol.
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Old Jun 23rd 2002, 1:20 am
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Carol Most people could only give an account of their own suburb and maybe the local
city centre at best. There are also, with the greatest respect to some, certain
people posting who would probably have been happier had they remained in the UK.

Australia has its problems like anywhere, but how much you encounter them depends on
where you live. Also depends on luck - just like anywhere.

If you're from Glasgow or any major UK city, I don't think you'll find living in
Australia problematic.

Whichever city you're planning to go to, you should be able to read the daily paper
over the web and listen online to a talk radio station there. Why not do this, that
way you can make up your own mind.

Jeremy

    >On 22 Jun 2002 22:20:06 GMT, summers family <[email protected]> wrote: We
    >read a thread recently that filled us with dread. Basically it stated that
    >burglaries are big in Aus (school clothes, kids bikes etc) but also that drunkenness
    >and rowdieness was rife. We live near Glasgow and want to escape the "thug culture"
    >here. Can anyone living in Aus give us a true account of these problems there?
    >
    >Thanks again, Carol.
    >
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Old Jun 23rd 2002, 6:20 am
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    > We read a thread recently that filled us with dread. Basically it stated that
    > burglaries are big in Aus (school clothes, kids bikes etc) but also that
    > drunkenness and rowdieness was rife. We live near Glasgow and want to escape the
    > "thug culture" here. Can anyone living in Aus give us a true account of these
    > problems there?
    >
    > Thanks again, Carol.

There are going to be thugs wherever you go but surely not as many as in Britain,
which has a _terrible_ problem with yoof culture. Kids dragged up badly, turning into
teenagers who believe the world owes them a favour, and well aware that they can go
out and take what they want with minimal repercussions. Nasty indeed.

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Old Jun 23rd 2002, 6:20 am
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Hi Summers Family

I live around Kings Cross in Sydney and the place is know as the red light district.

It's not a rough as some of the areas in the UK and is not as rough as Glasgow.

This is a definition of an English Thug

Drink Beer, Watch Football, Drink More Beer until drunk, have a fight, Drink more
beer and go home.

Definition of an Ozy thug

Drink Beer, Watch ANY sport, Drink more beer, drive the car with the music up loud.

Australia is a safe place compared to the UK.

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    > We read a thread recently that filled us with dread. Basically it stated that
    > burglaries are big in Aus (school clothes, kids bikes etc) but also that
    > drunkenness and rowdieness was rife. We live near Glasgow and want to escape the
    > "thug culture" here. Can anyone living in Aus give us a true account of these
    > problems there?
    >
    > Thanks again, Carol.
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Old Jun 23rd 2002, 8:20 am
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One big difference in Oz is the localized press: people read State based
newspapers. This means that you read a lot more about your neighbouring suburbs
than in the UK where newspapers and TV are far more national. Suburban living also
skews how things appear.

Result - people are more aware of what goes on in crime riddled areas.

But, doesn't seem much worse.

Seb

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    > Hi Summers Family
    >
    > I live around Kings Cross in Sydney and the place is know as the red light
    > district.
    >
    > It's not a rough as some of the areas in the UK and is not as rough as Glasgow.
    >
    > This is a definition of an English Thug
    >
    > Drink Beer, Watch Football, Drink More Beer until drunk, have a fight,
Drink
    > more beer and go home.
    >
    > Definition of an Ozy thug
    >
    > Drink Beer, Watch ANY sport, Drink more beer, drive the car with the music up loud.
    >
    > Australia is a safe place compared to the UK.
    >
    > KS
    >
    > "summers family" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > We read a thread recently that filled us with dread. Basically it stated that
    > > burglaries are big in Aus (school clothes, kids bikes etc) but also that
    > > drunkenness and rowdieness was rife. We live near Glasgow and want to escape the
    > > "thug culture" here. Can anyone living in Aus give us a true account of these
    > > problems there?
    > >
    > > Thanks again, Carol.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
 
Old Jun 23rd 2002, 10:02 am
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Default Re: thugs in Aus?

I think the Ozzie variety of thug is just as nasty as the english variety and certainly too much booze is the common denominator. We live in Bayside of Brisbane which is known to be extremely safe (top of published league tables) and yet we know local areas that you do not visit after dark. There is regular fighting and has even been some murders in the time we have lived here (Koala Hotel Capalaba and Alexandra Hills Hotel).

But I think living in Glasgow you have the answer to your question. Parts of Glasgow are rough and lots of problems. But I have been to Glasgow and know that in other areas it is generally safe and have been out in the City at night with no problems and had a great time. Likewise parts of Sydney Brisbane Melbourne Perth etc are rough with lots of problems. Unfortunately its a fact of life that drugs poverty crime exists here as it does in Uk and also it tends to congregate in certain areas.

You just have to move to an area that does'nt have them or has far less of them and they exist here as they exist in UK.
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Old Jun 23rd 2002, 1:20 pm
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Hi Carol.....

You say you live near Glasgow. We live in East Kilbride. Where are you?

How far down the line are you as far as your application is concerned? We applied to
London last July so have been waiting nearly a year. Hopefully, we'll get some news
in the next 3 or 4 months.

One of our concerns was the growing, "ned culture", as well. I've been over to Oz a
couple of times, and it's not nearly as bad as it is here. That aside, the general
lifestyle is just so much better. We are going to live in Perth which is one of the
most beautiful cities I have ever seen. The people there take pride in their city.
Hardly any litter/graffiti etc. I wish I could say the same for Glasgow.

Anyway, good luck with your application.

Cheers..... Johnno......

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    > We read a thread recently that filled us with dread. Basically it stated that
    > burglaries are big in Aus (school clothes, kids bikes etc) but also that
    > drunkenness and rowdieness was rife. We live near Glasgow and want to escape the
    > "thug culture" here. Can anyone living in Aus give us a true account of these
    > problems there?
    >
    > Thanks again, Carol.
    >
    >
    >
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Old Jun 23rd 2002, 6:20 pm
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I lived in Adelaide for 6 years. It's one of the safest and friendliest places
on earth

Kapi.

"SM" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > One big difference in Oz is the localized press: people read State based
    > newspapers. This means that you read a lot more about your neighbouring suburbs
    > than in the UK where newspapers and TV are far more national. Suburban living also
    > skews how things appear.
    >
    > Result - people are more aware of what goes on in crime riddled areas.
    >
    > But, doesn't seem much worse.
    >
    > Seb
    >
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    > For replies, edit the e-mail. "Kieron Shorrock" <[email protected]> wrote in
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    > > Hi Summers Family
    > >
    > > I live around Kings Cross in Sydney and the place is know as the red light
    > > district.
    > >
    > > It's not a rough as some of the areas in the UK and is not as rough as Glasgow.
    > >
    > > This is a definition of an English Thug
    > >
    > > Drink Beer, Watch Football, Drink More Beer until drunk, have a fight,
    > Drink
    > > more beer and go home.
    > >
    > > Definition of an Ozy thug
    > >
    > > Drink Beer, Watch ANY sport, Drink more beer, drive the car with the music
    > > up loud.
    > >
    > > Australia is a safe place compared to the UK.
    > >
    > > KS
    > >
    > > "summers family" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > We read a thread recently that filled us with dread. Basically it stated that
    > > > burglaries are big in Aus (school clothes, kids bikes etc) but also that
    > > > drunkenness and rowdieness was rife. We live near Glasgow and want to escape
    > > > the "thug culture" here. Can anyone living in Aus give us a true account of
    > > > these problems there?
    > > >
    > > > Thanks again, Carol.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > --
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    > >
 
Old Jun 24th 2002, 6:21 am
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    > We read a thread recently that filled us with dread. Basically it stated that
    > burglaries are big in Aus (school clothes, kids bikes etc) but also that
    > drunkenness and rowdieness was rife. We live near Glasgow and want to escape the
    > "thug culture" here. Can anyone living in Aus give us a true account of these
    > problems there?
    >
    > Thanks again, Carol.

Hi Carol,

A quick answer:

Do thugs exist? Yes, just as thuggish but thankfully not as many. For example, you'll
be able to take your family to most sports matches like Cricket, Soccer, Rugby, (Oz)
Footie without feeling like you have act like the 'Running Man' to escape the grounds
after the match has ended!

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Hi Kapi,
Where abouts in Adelaide did you stay?
We are going at the end of June with a veiw to possibly migrating.
Are there any Bad areas to avoid.
We will be staying with relatives in Elisabeth which we understand is maybe not the best area, but maybe you could tell us a better area to buy a house in.

Thanks ,Iain:)
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O.k I'll throw this one in though I'm sure many on this forum will be cynical about it...but our friends in Perth who have been there 5 years have never been or heard of any one being a victim of crime! I know its there..its everywhere..but it doesn't seem so prevelant and in your face as this country.
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Hi Dugongs,

We live in Capalaba - never heard about the Koala Park or Alex Hills Hotels murders - were they recent?

We feel much safer here than we did in the UK, but perhaps that`s because we`re on acreage here, nice big fence, gates to shut out unwanted visitors etc. only problem we get is the occasional "hoons" - this is bliss compared to where we used to live in a "nice middle-class" suburb in Hampshire!!!
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Crime is there its just not talked about or reported much day to day.
You generally only find out about it after/if someone is caught.
There was a security guard in the car park at the local shops today so somethinghas probably happened there - bag snatch etc but you woukldnt generally hear about it unless someone ended up in hospital.
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on the other hand.... there is a great open air cinema down the road where you can picnic with kangaroos mooching around and hear the kookaburras overhead....and there was a parrot sitting in the tree watching me clean the pool this arvo...
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Originally posted by Andrew
summers family <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > We read a thread recently that filled us with dread. Basically it stated that
    > burglaries are big in Aus (school clothes, kids bikes etc) but also that
    > drunkenness and rowdieness was rife. We live near Glasgow and want to escape the
    > "thug culture" here. Can anyone living in Aus give us a true account of these
    > problems there?
    >
    > Thanks again, Carol.

Hi Carol,

A quick answer:

Do thugs exist? Yes, just as thuggish but thankfully not as many. For example, you'll
be able to take your family to most sports matches like Cricket, Soccer, Rugby, (Oz)
Footie without feeling like you have act like the 'Running Man' to escape the grounds
after the match has ended!

AndyH.
Whilst following the British Lions around Oz in 2001 we bumped in to 6 big guys (English) who had decided to go to a League game to soak up the culture. They left in fear of their lives! They saw at least 3 fights and were targetted themselves. Thugs exist in all industrialised societies and Oz is no different.
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