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Old Nov 14th 2014, 6:38 pm
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I'm a third year student nurse looking for advice. I'm looking to move to Australia. I have read conflicting information about entry requirements and looking for advice. I have read you can move immediately after graduating and go in as a graduate student or you can work for three months as a registered nurse and then apply. Anyone know any more on this. I'm 29 years old and will be thirty when i graduate, a friend said once i hot 31 i'll be to old to be able to get a visa to work in Australia. I want to move as soon as i can.

I also haven't decided on where would be best to move. I have a four year old daughter who will be five so schooling will be an important consideration. I would love to live by the beach while being not to far from a city. We love hiking and kayaking. . i'm also thinking about the cost of renting and buying in the future.

id really appreciate some information
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Will you have a degree qualification? AHPRA have changed their requirements and your level of training has to be equivalent to level 7 which is a Batchelor degree. If you do not have a degree then you will need extra study to make up the difference.

Getting a grauate position would be extemely difficult as there is a shortage of positions for Australian graduates.

Your age is not a problem but lack of experience is....generally you will need at least year's post grad experience for a skilled visa.

Sponsorship have become very difficult and, again, you would need experience.

Unless you can register then the rest of our questions are irrelevant.

Be aware that living anywhere near a beach in most places will be very expensive

There are thousands of Graduate Australian degree trained nurses also looking for work so you really need to get experience and then apply for a skilled independent visa.

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sorry yes i'm studying a BSC degree.
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sorry yes i'm studying a BSC degree.
That is the first step.
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i didnt realise there was a shortage of jobs in Australia for nursing. in the UK there's not enough graduates, on the ward i'm working from they have just taken 7 European newly qualified students. they will work as auxiliaries for the first four months before becoming staff nurses.
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i didnt realise there was a shortage of jobs in Australia for nursing. in the UK there's not enough graduates, on the ward i'm working from they have just taken 7 European newly qualified students. they will work as auxiliaries for the first four months before becoming staff nurses.
It depends on where you go. Queensland has become very difficult due to restrictions on recruiting.
Graduate positions are like hen's teeth. It is possile to get a job in the private sector without a grauate position but, again, that depends on the area....all the states are different. Jobs are easier to get is less popular areas..the cities are very popular.

You really need to get exerience and then apply for a visa.
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its prob best i get a year or two experience, give me chance to safe up some more money before moving
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Hi

I'm a third year student nurse looking for advice. I'm looking to move to Australia. I have read conflicting information about entry requirements and looking for advice. I have read you can move immediately after graduating and go in as a graduate student or you can work for three months as a registered nurse and then apply. Anyone know any more on this. I'm 29 years old and will be thirty when i graduate, a friend said once i hot 31 i'll be to old to be able to get a visa to work in Australia. I want to move as soon as i can.

I also haven't decided on where would be best to move. I have a four year old daughter who will be five so schooling will be an important consideration. I would love to live by the beach while being not to far from a city. We love hiking and kayaking. . i'm also thinking about the cost of renting and buying in the future.

id really appreciate some information
Your friend is referring to the Working Holiday Visa, this is the backpackers visa for temporary stays and not one that you can use to emigrate on. It is for 18 to 30 year olds without children so you could not use it anyway, well not unless you were abandoning your daughter which I am quite sure you are not!

Plenty of people emigrate after 30, I was 40 for example.

I agree with Grayling you would be better off getting some experience first. There is a bit if a backlash against hospitals recruiting overseas when there are bucket loads of Australian graduate nurses struggling to get their first graduate position. I think you have little to no chance competing for one of those roles against a newly graduated Aussie (and rightly so). With experience you make yourself much more marketable.

You are a little bit off thinking about where to live, but when you are at that point, you need to focus on differentiating factors. "Good schools" is not a differentiating factor as there are good and less good schools everywhere. A city by the beach won't help you narrow this down either, a quick look at a map and you will see that nearly all of the Australian cities are by the coast and that means the beach can't be too far away. Differentiating factors include things like: availability of jobs, climate and housing costs for example.

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its prob best i get a year or two experience, give me chance to safe up some more money before moving
If you get experience then you can apply for an independent skilled visa and go where you like.
Experience is the key otherwise you are no different from the thousands of Australian grauates.

Your age is no problem.....you can get a permanent visa up until the age of 45 and beyond in some cases.

It is no longer as easy for nurses as it used to be. Sponsorship, which tends to be temporary, has become very difficult....and when it happens tends to be for hard to fill positions often in less desirable areas
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Thank you both for your feedback. I will wait and take time to research living cost and so on in more detail as that will be a big influencing factor.
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Joining your threads up, one thing for Mandurah is excellent for kayaking. You have the serpentine and murray rivers, peel inlet with the dolphins. As for hiking the Bibbulmun track should satisfy.
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thank you its great to know.
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Hi Amy, hope you're ok!

We are in a similar situation to you. My partner and I are currently exploring our options and doing lots of research about the move. He is a third year student here in Leicester doing Adult Nursing and will achieve the BSc (Hons) Adult Nursing with NMC Registration at the end of this academic year. I work for a large UK Tour Operator as a GM so doing most of the research haha.

I've spent probably days of my life reading Wikipedia, looking at Google Maps, watching TV Programmes, documentaries, talking to family in Oz, people that have been and also this amazing forum which is completely packed full of information. I feel like we will feel more focused following a visit!

We are looking to move to Melbourne but also (I) liked the look of Brisbane and the Gold Coast so booked a trip out to Australia in February 2015 (just 90 odd days to go now!) which we've just paid for so we can actually see what Australia is like first albeit a holiday is nothing like living somewhere obviously but being a little less blind is better in our opinion. We've spending 4 nights in Melbourne, 4 nights in the Gold Coast and then heading back down to Melbourne for a final 4 nights in St Kilda with a hire car for 2 parts etc.

We initially had the thought of taking out a WHV so that we could go on a long holiday following James' graduation and also see different parts of Australia. We intended to travel though with James having already sought AHPRA registration so that he could actually work if necessary. We then decided that if he ended up in a role that would sponsor or be able to get a temporary work visa then that would be fine because we have no major financial ties to the UK (kids and a mortgage etc). If not, we'd return back to the UK and then pursue PR having hopefully found somewhere that we like.

However, James has since been tentatively offered a role in CCU at a hospital here so we are hoping that following our visit to Australia, we'll be more decisive in our decision and ultimately most likely remain in the UK to gain post grad experience and go down the Skilled visa route instead independently. It's a lot of money to spend upfront on a visa but so is a WHV flights, spending money and travelling around etc!

The reality I suppose is that whilst we want to also live by the beach and have this amazing lifestyle (which isn't a bad thing of course - without dreams what would you work towards!) we'll end up where we can both get full time jobs (especially James as he is ultimately the skilled one moving forward).

It's a tough one but from my own research the best thing you can do is become as widely skilled and also have a specialism if possible i.e critical care etc. James supports his studies working on the bank in A&E etc to have exposure etc etc. Obviously everyone is different!

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Hi AdamL just read your post and was interested to see what your decision was following your visit? In a similar situation to yourself.

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Hi Amy, hope you're ok!

We are in a similar situation to you. My partner and I are currently exploring our options and doing lots of research about the move. He is a third year student here in Leicester doing Adult Nursing and will achieve the BSc (Hons) Adult Nursing with NMC Registration at the end of this academic year. I work for a large UK Tour Operator as a GM so doing most of the research haha.

I've spent probably days of my life reading Wikipedia, looking at Google Maps, watching TV Programmes, documentaries, talking to family in Oz, people that have been and also this amazing forum which is completely packed full of information. I feel like we will feel more focused following a visit!

We are looking to move to Melbourne but also (I) liked the look of Brisbane and the Gold Coast so booked a trip out to Australia in February 2015 (just 90 odd days to go now!) which we've just paid for so we can actually see what Australia is like first albeit a holiday is nothing like living somewhere obviously but being a little less blind is better in our opinion. We've spending 4 nights in Melbourne, 4 nights in the Gold Coast and then heading back down to Melbourne for a final 4 nights in St Kilda with a hire car for 2 parts etc.

We initially had the thought of taking out a WHV so that we could go on a long holiday following James' graduation and also see different parts of Australia. We intended to travel though with James having already sought AHPRA registration so that he could actually work if necessary. We then decided that if he ended up in a role that would sponsor or be able to get a temporary work visa then that would be fine because we have no major financial ties to the UK (kids and a mortgage etc). If not, we'd return back to the UK and then pursue PR having hopefully found somewhere that we like.

However, James has since been tentatively offered a role in CCU at a hospital here so we are hoping that following our visit to Australia, we'll be more decisive in our decision and ultimately most likely remain in the UK to gain post grad experience and go down the Skilled visa route instead independently. It's a lot of money to spend upfront on a visa but so is a WHV flights, spending money and travelling around etc!

The reality I suppose is that whilst we want to also live by the beach and have this amazing lifestyle (which isn't a bad thing of course - without dreams what would you work towards!) we'll end up where we can both get full time jobs (especially James as he is ultimately the skilled one moving forward).

It's a tough one but from my own research the best thing you can do is become as widely skilled and also have a specialism if possible i.e critical care etc. James supports his studies working on the bank in A&E etc to have exposure etc etc. Obviously everyone is different!
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Hello Adam and Daisy

I have looked into it a lot and I have found depending on what area of speciality you go into the amount of experience required can range from 2 years to 5 however this is not set in stone as its based on demands as well. I personally have decided to stay in the UK for my first year post graduation and i have accepted a job on a neuro ward.

I too plan on booking and going out to visit austrailia next year. I havent booked it yet as i need to plan where we want to go as i want to have a look at a few places. I have looked at salary and it is really good but I have some concerns if i wanted to buy my home as housing in some parts seems very expensive from what I have seen through internet searches. Renting seems to be reasonable. let me know how you both get on with it,
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