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Old Nov 10th 2018, 2:24 am
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Drip drip drip

Another day in our perfect multicultural society

Another day of the 'religion of peace' in the West

Drip drip drip
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Drip drip drip

Another day in our perfect multicultural society

Another day of the 'religion of peace' in the West

Drip drip drip
Drip, drip, drip. just another excuse for a far off beam, lunar right advocate, hailing from what was once one of the most racist country on earth to get a part oar in order to muddy the waters , spreading the message of hate.
One wonders, if Australia, is indeed the country, best suited to your world view. I suspect, a place in Trumps America, one of the red states, with more than usual number of red neck inhabitants, would better fit the bill. Tennessee, comes to mind. You'll no doubt discover it induces recollections of 'home'

Multi cultalralism, going great guns thanks for asking, as evidenced in last nights Diwali celebrations. So good off again tonight. Only thing is can we have more ? We definitely need more colour to kick start Perth again.

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I won't respond to your name calling, lest I have all of BE's old biddies on my case

Diwali has nothing to do with multiculturalism

Diwali is a nice part of Indian culture - a successful monoculture

Multiculturalism is a failure in the west
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I won't respond to your name calling, lest I have all of BE's old biddies on my case

Diwali has nothing to do with multiculturalism

Diwali is a nice part of Indian culture - a successful monoculture

Multiculturalism is a failure in the west
Diwali has everything to do with the richness of culture immigrant transplanted with them. Not too hard to fathom, no Indians no event surely? Indian culture itself is very varied and equally celebrated. Tamil Nadu state being the focus this year. It was Kerala state on a previous year attended and Punjab on another. Last night, further expressed the state of multi cultalralism, by exhibiting a brilliant Japanese drum ensemble and a Pakistani Muslim contribution of some note. This is the eleventh year now held and free to attend.
Multiculturalism regardless of what the faux right populists say in blaming immigrants and pushing the worst aspects of popular prejudice, is up and working fine, but thanks for the concern. But has proved to be a gigantic failure of epic proportions, of course is the neo liberal economic agenda , to which we are in ever greater numbers paying a heavy price.

No need to be ageist. Even our 'femme ancien' have a right to express. (old biddies indeed. I'm sure you mean ladies of a certain age during your more refined moments of consciousness)

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Just out of interest, did the Greek Australian Orthodox bloke that killed six pedestrians in central Melbourne last year, by means of a motor vehicle, an act in terror if any, warrant a thread from you ? Southern Europeans? Christians? Or is it only some disturbed individual of Somali decent, with a criminal record, Muslim name, some vague claim, unproven by a radical group.
Nasty. But blaming the wider Muslim community and definitely holding it as an example as to how multi cultalralism is a failure from the acts of an individual pondering to the darker forces with in society, with agendas to match.
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Diwali has everything to do with the richness of culture immigrant transplanted with them. Not too hard to fathom, no Indians no event surely? Indian culture itself is very varied and equally celebrated. Tamil Nadu state being the focus this year. It was Kerala state on a previous year attended and Punjab on another. Last night, further expressed the state of multi cultalralism, by exhibiting a brilliant Japanese drum ensemble and a Pakistani Muslim contribution of some note. This is the eleventh year now held and free to attend.
Multiculturalism regardless of what the faux right populists say in blaming immigrants and pushing the worst aspects of popular prejudice, is up and working fine, but thanks for the concern. But has proved to be a gigantic failure of epic proportions, of course is the neo liberal economic agenda , to which we are in ever greater numbers paying a heavy price.

No need to be ageist. Even our 'femme ancien' have a right to express. (old biddies indeed. I'm sure you mean ladies of a certain age during your more refined moments of consciousness)
That's nice but none of that is multiculturalism

Multiculturalism in the west has failed - even the betrayer of the German people, Angela Merkel, has said it has failed. The young women of Cologne and innocent civilians in London, Paris, Melbourne, Stockholm etc have experienced this failure first hand
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Just out of interest, did the Greek Australian Orthodox bloke that killed six pedestrians in central Melbourne last year, by means of a motor vehicle, an act in terror if any, warrant a thread from you ? Southern Europeans? Christians? Or is it only some disturbed individual of Somali decent, with a criminal record, Muslim name, some vague claim, unproven by a radical group.
Nasty. But blaming the wider Muslim community and definitely holding it as an example as to how multi cultalralism is a failure from the acts of an individual pondering to the darker forces with in society, with agendas to match.
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Greek Orthodox bloke - asshole - psychotic murderer

Somalian muslim - asshole - terrorist murderer
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That's nice but none of that is multiculturalism

Multiculturalism in the west has failed - even the betrayer of the German people, Angela Merkel, has said it has failed. The young women of Cologne and innocent civilians in London, Paris, Melbourne, Stockholm etc have experienced this failure first hand
Multi cultalralism is no failure in the Australian context, more the saving of it if anything. I admit a return the Boganvilleism would be welcomed by elements of the population, but one expects they'll by and large increasingly die out over the next two decades.
But there are some conditions. If Australia and vested interests continue to turbo charge population growth, to unsustainable limits, as is the case in our two main city's at the moment, concepts as in question, may well be challenged by 'dark forces' seeking to captivate populist sentiment.

Angela Merkel , obviously did not in reality feel it had failed, as not long after she opened the borders for a period at least. You express extreme bias in your reporting. No mention of Muslim women, having the scarves ripped of their heads and abused in the most horrific racial manner. No mention of the right wing, knuckle crawling jobs, that set about culling the local Muslim apparent population some years ago. No mention of the terrorism in the attempted burning out of foreigners in Germany by placing inflammables through letter boxes.
No all very selective.
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Greek Orthodox bloke - asshole - psychotic murderer

Somalian muslim - asshole - terrorist murderer
. Such as simplistic interpretation of events, suggests far from simple conclusions and more a matter of individual bias, constantly portrayed on all too many occasions with regards to your historical posts.

The very least a jumping to unfounded conclusions. Please explain, why a Muslim by religion, not even aware if practising or not, cannot be equally as psychotic as he was proven to be criminal?
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Actually in London, the prime world city status, giving that city alpha status, is largely a result of being along with New York, the most open, multi cultural and lingual cities in the world.
Only really Amsterdam, another great open city , with Berlin making in roads rapidly IMO Paris, nor France in general, is not a successful I would use with model in place of location and desperation resulting combined with the influence of certain political forces maintain.
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Dutton is once again taking the opportunity to be a dick and push for more surveillance, more spying on people, more cancelling of visas, more attacks on citizenship.

https://www.theguardian.com/australi...-terror-attack

... he criticised Labor MP Anne Aly, who was a counter-terrorism academic specialist before entering parliament in 2016
Can we just have the election so this lowlife can be kicked out?
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Dutton is once again taking the opportunity to be a dick and push for more surveillance, more spying on people, more cancelling of visas, more attacks on citizenship.

https://www.theguardian.com/australi...-terror-attack



Can we just have the election so this lowlife can be kicked out?
Beat me to it. Yet another example of a far right move on our freedoms and democracy.. Good on ALP MP, Anne Ann Aly , a woman of the Muslim faith, for taking the skin head, head kicker to task. We need people of all stripes, faiths and creed to stand up and defend freedom in this country.
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Greek Orthodox bloke - asshole - psychotic murderer

Somalian muslim - asshole - terrorist murderer
Has a motive been established for either bloke?

If either is religious, another reason to take religion to task.
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Has a motive been established for either bloke?

If either is religious, another reason to take religion to task.
No reason at all to take religion to task. Anyone with disturbed tendencies, seeking motive to justify any action, can place the blame on most anything as a focus of their motivation to create distress and cause terror and havoc along the way.
It may be a right wing philosophical strike on what they see as oppression (note Oklahoma) last century, a nationalist or freedom fighter seeking the greater good, a bigoted individual fed full of hate towards other race/religion/ gays/right/left wing advocates/aged/homeless/rick/poor the list goes on.
Better look into profile into why some folk are distracted to such a degree in their daily lives, that they feel to commit acts of terror to gain notoriety or prove a point. Don't 'cop out 'the easy way, blaming something like religion, when the manipulation of minds occurs in far more diverse ways.
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Greek Orthodox bloke - asshole - psychotic murderer

Somalian muslim - asshole - terrorist murderer
Correction:
Australian bloke, drug and mental health issues (happens to also be greek Orthodox)

Australian bloke - links to terrorism but also drug and mental health issues (and also happens to be muslim)

I think the common link is mental health issues - and not enough money / resources being spent in this area. Don't think there's any easy answers in this area though

Whatever the cause though, it's a sad loss of life again for Melbourne
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