the troubadour

You got the rules part right anyway, but to be honest you make it too easy to be much other.
No the ongoing of shore detention saga has diminished Australia's proud repetition around the world for its cruelty and un necessary on going punishment. The sooner that sorry episode can be brought to an ending the better for all.

Us against them mentality? Even a number of Poms remain preferably among own ranks and the Irish around me certainly stay within Irish circles. Almost never hear an Aussie accent over the back fence, when they are having a shin dig. All in their way contribute, often it is highly qualified refugees that are forced to restart their lives from scratch. Many off their kids obtain high educational potential. Tax? Rorts galore with tradies and like. Deliberate suspected over charging in hope of coming to cash deal in many instances.

Probably they unlike South Africans, are less able to afford over priced housing in Sydney though. Neither much use for your cheaply built over priced condo's either. But certainly add colour and this once pronounced 'vibe' you at one time used at every opportunity in order to support turbo charging of Sydney population, to which you have been oddly quiet about in more recent times.

the troubadour

On the multi cultural theme, Perth could do with is something akin to the Durban Indian Market Victoria Street Market in the centre here. WE need something that will attract tourists, add colour, vibrancy and further our multi cultural credentials.
Anyone that knows Durb's , (South Africa) regardless of what I say elsewhere, still one of my favourite countries, will have likely visited the Indian market. It is home to the selling of herbs, handcrafts, cultural artefacts and isn't confined to Indian culture and merchandise alone, but Chinese and Zulu and so on. It buzzes with life, and Perth has the added advantage, no need to be looking over your shoulder in case of being mugged on existing.
WE would require area large enough to house such a building. WE could provide visa's to store holders with a proven track record to resettle as well. It is hard to describe just how popular this market is, with out of towners, international and cruise tourists.
We in Perth are an Indian ocean city, ideally situated to emulate and improve on Durban , located a few thousand kms in a straight direction off Cottesloe Beach.

the troubadour

Playing at a blame game will solve nothing. Using such incidents to remove freedoms, just makes us all more bound and under control. It was once played out that terror, would never altar our way of life. What ever happened? Those, especially of the right, whom take every opportunity to relieve us of ever more freedoms and ever more observation.

Amazulu

​​​​​​Awww diddums

Beoz

So the Greek fella went down yesterday. No mention of religion in the wrap up. It was all about drugs and the mental state Ice puts one in.

That Ice stuff is just the pits. Thank heavens it's illegal it's just a shame the authorities can't do more about its infiltration into society.

Now, where were we on religion.

the troubadour

Coalition cutbacks on services doesn't help. You mean Australian fellow with a Greek background. Drugs going back many decades have been creating havoc on Australian society. Induced creating violence, more an issue now. No idea where you are on religion, but can pretty much guess.

GarryP

So no christian terrorism reference, strange that.

Prohibition has never worked. Frankly I think putting some R&D money into a synthetic, non-additive, no bad side effect, cheap drug that gets you high whilst not affecting judgement, etc. would be a better move. Beat the other drugs in the market.

Gradually moving away from it?

Maybe we should make religion a notifiable debility - seems to cause at least as many issues as illicit drugs ...

Amazulu

The denialism is strong in this one

Beoz

I didn't see a Christian reference. I did see something about worshipping comets however that didn't seem to appear in the wrap up.

As I have said before and ScoMo re-iterated, religious leaders need to take responsibly when mad man use religion as a reason to commit such crimes.

We make the drug leadership accountable for their actions, we need to make religious leaders accountable for theirs and if there is not direct involvement, at least make them accountable for the processes of their establishments.

Same with the Church of Comets. No excuses.

Amazulu

Last time I looked, ASIO don't monitor and track drug users and associated losers

GarryP

Thing is, they knew who he was, he was a person of interest, Dutton had taken away his passport, and he hadn't been involved in religion for the past 20 years - so exactly *who* should be taking responsibility again?

Scummy would have been better to say "Dutton and his department screwed up on this one, so I'm sacking him". That would involve his party owning up though ....

bcworld

Who are these religious leaders and what exactly is it you want them to do that they don't do already?

Beoz

What are they doing should be the question.

the troubadour

Well actually not. Islam remains I believe the fastest growing faith in the world. Well again no. As most everything. Religion, like love, sex, alcohol, food, child raising, travel, can have great powers to promote hope, positivity, belonging, or indeed in the wrong hands creative mischief, trouble, abuse and hatred.

the troubadour

Regardless of how much they condemn and attempt at community positive acts, there will always be those where nothing is ever enough, playing the blame game very lop sided, blinded to those seeking to aggravate the situation. Even worse. They may even attempt to pass off being open minded.