Take stock, because most return home.
Aug 29th 2005, 2:31 pm
#331
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Re: Take stock, because most return home.
Sorry, I certainly don't agree.
The term "Paki" is definitely racist and offensive. I should hope that all members would refrain from using it on this forum.
The term "Paki" is definitely racist and offensive. I should hope that all members would refrain from using it on this forum.
Originally Posted by Badge
Commen sense tells you Paki from a law abiding citizen is not racist - even in the UK. Circumstance and reality tells you, that in the UK it is, afraid, like it or leave it.
What about a Brit returning from Australia and saying paki - that might be excusable. Habit. I don't think the term as used in Australia is offensive. It is only offensive, if you grew up with it when it was offensive.
I haven't heard it for 20 years. The last time I heard it was my own lips and I got a smack from the old dear. I actually wonder if it has been so long since I heard it that maybe anyone using it is too new to know it used to be offensive...(!)
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What about a Brit returning from Australia and saying paki - that might be excusable. Habit. I don't think the term as used in Australia is offensive. It is only offensive, if you grew up with it when it was offensive.
I haven't heard it for 20 years. The last time I heard it was my own lips and I got a smack from the old dear. I actually wonder if it has been so long since I heard it that maybe anyone using it is too new to know it used to be offensive...(!)
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Aug 29th 2005, 10:16 pm
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Re: Take stock, because most return home.
Originally Posted by russmcp
No I say all cats should be destroyed, the smell of cat sh*t is effing awful! This b**tard cat keeps sh*tting in out garden, and we have tried all sorts to stop it. 
Humour aside, you only have to see how all the natural habitat in NZ has been wiped out by our feline friends, oh and possums.
Humour aside, you only have to see how all the natural habitat in NZ has been wiped out by our feline friends, oh and possums.A positive trend is that a great many people in Au (including quite a few newly arrived poms) are becoming responsible cat owners & have 'indoor cats' who only go out into a cat run. This benefits the cat, the wildlife & the owner, as the cats don't get run over, the wildlife is safe, and the owner gets the benefit of their pet's company
.Anya.
Aug 29th 2005, 10:29 pm
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Re: Take stock, because most return home.
Originally Posted by BLC
That is right nik04, you always do something because it feels right at the time. The outcome will be what it will be. How you grade that it down to you, but you should ALWAYS see it as an achievement and a lesson learned
Looking back only results in a stiff neck and Physio fees
Looking back only results in a stiff neck and Physio fees
Aug 29th 2005, 10:45 pm
#334
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Re: Take stock, because most return home.
Originally Posted by Sue
Sorry, I certainly don't agree.
The term "Paki" is definitely racist and offensive. I should hope that all members would refrain from using it on this forum.
The term "Paki" is definitely racist and offensive. I should hope that all members would refrain from using it on this forum.
Are you a Paki?
Aug 29th 2005, 10:58 pm
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Re: Take stock, because most return home.
[QUOTE=Megalania]Paki may mean any number of things elsewhere but in Aus it has one meaning only: A citizen of Pakistan.[QUOTE]
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Aug 29th 2005, 11:23 pm
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Re: Take stock, because most return home.
[QUOTE=andrew63][QUOTE=Megalania]Paki may mean any number of things elsewhere but in Aus it has one meaning only: A citizen of Pakistan.
i don't agree. "paki" may be used by the pakistan community, but when used to describe them then it's derogatory in my opinion.
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Aug 29th 2005, 11:38 pm
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Re: Take stock, because most return home.
[QUOTE=jacknat][QUOTE=andrew63]
You can disagree all you like and you'd still be wrong. In Aus Paki means a citizen of Pakistan. (<-- Note the full stop.)
Originally Posted by Megalania
Paki may mean any number of things elsewhere but in Aus it has one meaning only: A citizen of Pakistan.
i don't agree. "paki" may be used by the pakistan community, but when used to describe them then it's derogatory in my opinion.
steve
i don't agree. "paki" may be used by the pakistan community, but when used to describe them then it's derogatory in my opinion.
steve
Aug 29th 2005, 11:42 pm
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Re: Take stock, because most return home.
i don't agree. "paki" may be used by the pakistan community, but when used to describe them then it's derogatory in my opinion.
steve
steve
If the word is derogatory, it's derogatory regardless of who's using it. It doesn't become any less derogatory for being used by members of the ethnic community to which it is intended to refer.
If you ever get to Australia, you will find Italians and Greeks happily referring to each other as "wogs." You will also find their no-Italian and no-Greek friends referring to them in the same way.
I consider this a far more honest approach.
Aug 29th 2005, 11:43 pm
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Re: Take stock, because most return home.
[QUOTE=Megalania][QUOTE=jacknat]
just by emphasizing a full stop doesn't make your point right. everone is intitled to an opinion.
steve
Originally Posted by andrew63
You can disagree all you like and you'd still be wrong. In Aus Paki means a citizen of Pakistan. (<-- Note the full stop.)
steve
Aug 29th 2005, 11:49 pm
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Re: Take stock, because most return home.
Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
That's a peculiar position to take. I keep finding it over here in Britain, but I still don't understand it. There's a certain double-standardness about it; one could almost call it hypocrisy.
If the word is derogatory, it's derogatory regardless of who's using it. It doesn't become any less derogatory for being used by members of the ethnic community to which it is intended to refer.
If you ever get to Australia, you will find Italians and Greeks happily referring to each other as "wogs." You will also find their no-Italian and no-Greek friends referring to them in the same way.
I consider this a far more honest approach.
If the word is derogatory, it's derogatory regardless of who's using it. It doesn't become any less derogatory for being used by members of the ethnic community to which it is intended to refer.
If you ever get to Australia, you will find Italians and Greeks happily referring to each other as "wogs." You will also find their no-Italian and no-Greek friends referring to them in the same way.
I consider this a far more honest approach.
steve
Aug 29th 2005, 11:50 pm
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Re: Take stock, because most return home.
[QUOTE=jacknat][QUOTE=Megalania]
just by emphasizing a full stop doesn't make your point right. everone is intitled to an opinion.
steve
Then I'm "intitled" to my opinion that you are ignorant of Aus English.
Originally Posted by jacknat
just by emphasizing a full stop doesn't make your point right. everone is intitled to an opinion.
steve
Aug 29th 2005, 11:54 pm
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Re: Take stock, because most return home.
[QUOTE=Megalania][QUOTE=jacknat]
Then I'm "intitled" to my opinion that you are ignorant of Aus English.
course you are, i will never use the term tho. but thats just what i'm used to.
steve
Originally Posted by Megalania
Then I'm "intitled" to my opinion that you are ignorant of Aus English.
steve
Aug 29th 2005, 11:55 pm
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Re: Take stock, because most return home.
Originally Posted by jacknat
i consider it more honest to call someone by their name, not categorize people
steve
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Well then, let's ban gender-specific pronouns while we're at it.
Aug 30th 2005, 12:00 am
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Re: Take stock, because most return home.
Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
"Categorise"?
Well then, let's ban gender-specific pronouns while we're at it.
Well then, let's ban gender-specific pronouns while we're at it.
steve
Aug 30th 2005, 12:01 am
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Re: Take stock, because most return home.
Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
"Categorise"?
Well then, let's ban gender-specific pronouns while we're at it.
Well then, let's ban gender-specific pronouns while we're at it.