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Ista May 26th 2010 9:12 am

Sydney and Melbourne in top 20 best cities in the world
 
Australia has done really well in Mercer's new Quality of Living rankings with six cities in the top 50. :thumbup:

Sydney is 10th, Melbourne 18th; Perth 21st; Canberra 26th; Adelaide 32nd; and Brisbane 36th. The UK hasn't done so well with only one city coming in the top 50, which is London at 39. The top 10 is dominated by (continental) European cities.



Living conditions in each city are analysed according to 39 factors, grouped in 10 categories:

Political and social environment (political stability, crime, law enforcement, etc)

Economic environment (currency exchange regulations, banking services, etc)

Socio-cultural environment (censorship, limitations on personal freedom, etc)

Health and sanitation (medical supplies and services, infectious diseases, sewage, waste disposal, air pollution, etc)

Schools and education (standard and availability of international schools, etc)

Public services and transportation (electricity, water, public transport, traffic congestion, etc)

Recreation (restaurants, theatres, cinemas, sports and leisure, etc)

Consumer goods (availability of food/daily consumption items, cars, etc)

Housing (housing, household appliances, furniture, maintenance services, etc)

Natural environment (climate, record of natural disasters)


I thought I'd put this up as there's quite a lot of anecdotal discussions on here about comparisons between different cities - this is quite a thorough analysis of many of the services these cities offer so worth a look!

canadaeh May 26th 2010 11:31 am

Re: Sydney and Melbourne in top 20 best cities in the world
 

Originally Posted by Ista (Post 8590726)

Sydney is 10th, Melbourne 18th; Perth 21st; Canberra 26th; Adelaide 32nd; and Brisbane 36th. The UK hasn't done so well with only one city coming in the top 50, which is London at 39. The top 10 is dominated by (continental) European cities.

So this survey just proves that Europe is better than Australia.

I knew that already :)

DownUnderPaddy May 26th 2010 12:06 pm

Re: Sydney and Melbourne in top 20 best cities in the world
 

Originally Posted by canadaeh (Post 8590946)
So this survey just proves that Europe is better than Australia.

I knew that already :)

...and that the UK is worse, but we knew that too :eek:

Ista May 26th 2010 12:33 pm

Re: Sydney and Melbourne in top 20 best cities in the world
 

Originally Posted by canadaeh (Post 8590946)
So this survey just proves that Europe is better than Australia.

I knew that already :)

Well, actually it's mainly just Switzerland and Germany that did 'better'.

canadaeh May 26th 2010 12:42 pm

Re: Sydney and Melbourne in top 20 best cities in the world
 

Originally Posted by Ista (Post 8591064)
Well, actually it's mainly just Switzerland and Germany that did 'better'.

Which are in Europe :rolleyes:

stuartsummers1980 May 26th 2010 12:43 pm

Re: Sydney and Melbourne in top 20 best cities in the world
 
Auckland was also rather high up. Have to confess I never lived there but when on my travels I always felt like it was a bit of a poor mans Sydney.

RedT May 26th 2010 12:50 pm

Re: Sydney and Melbourne in top 20 best cities in the world
 
Surprised at San Francisco coming quite far down the list, we wanted to move there before we decided on Sydney instead.

Not surprised that London fared badly though, this place is a dump...

:D

Tx

ABCDiamond May 26th 2010 12:52 pm

Re: Sydney and Melbourne in top 20 best cities in the world
 

Originally Posted by Ista (Post 8591064)
Well, actually it's mainly just Switzerland and Germany that did 'better'.

Don't forget Austria, Canada and New Zealand...

The top 20 countries


1 Austria
2 Switzerland
3 Canada
4 New Zealand
5 Germany
6 Australia
7 Denmark
8 Netherlands
9 Belgium
10 Luxembourg
11 Sweden
12 Norway
13 Ireland
14 Singapore
15 United States
16 France
17 Finland
18 United Kingdom
19 Japan
20 Italy

Ista May 26th 2010 12:54 pm

Re: Sydney and Melbourne in top 20 best cities in the world
 

Originally Posted by canadaeh (Post 8591082)
Which are in Europe :rolleyes:

So say Germany and Switzerland. Europe's a big place.

Vancouver, Auckland and Sydney were all in the top 10. I'm actually quite surprised London did SO badly (I thought it would maybe be in the top 30), I wonder what they scored in each part.

Ista May 26th 2010 12:55 pm

Re: Sydney and Melbourne in top 20 best cities in the world
 

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 8591117)
Don't forget Austria, Canada and New Zealand...

The top 20 countries

Yes, sorry - I was referring to the comment that 'Europe' did better when actually it wasn't Europe as a whole but just two countries in Europe (as well as Vienna, which was number one!).

canadaeh May 26th 2010 1:01 pm

Re: Sydney and Melbourne in top 20 best cities in the world
 

Originally Posted by Ista (Post 8591127)
Yes, sorry - I was referring to the comment that 'Europe' did better when actually it wasn't Europe as a whole but just two countries in Europe (as well as Vienna, which was number one!).

The survey was on cities, was it not?

And in the top 50, 26 of them are European cities, while only 6 are Australian cities, if you want to include New Zealand (as it’s in the region) then it makes a total of 7.

Out of the top 10 on the survey, 7 are European cities and 1 is Australia.

So yes, I’d say that makes Europe “Better”.

Ista May 26th 2010 1:18 pm

Re: Sydney and Melbourne in top 20 best cities in the world
 

Originally Posted by canadaeh (Post 8591142)
The survey was on cities, was it not?

And in the top 50, 26 of them are European cities, while only 6 are Australian cities, if you want to include New Zealand (as it’s in the region) then it makes a total of 7.

Out of the top 10 on the survey, 7 are European cities and 1 is Australia.

So yes, I’d say that makes Europe “Better”.


Uh, there's a lot more cities in Europe than in Australia.

coolshadows May 26th 2010 1:21 pm

Re: Sydney and Melbourne in top 20 best cities in the world
 
excuses, excuses... :rofl:

ABCDiamond May 26th 2010 1:23 pm

Re: Sydney and Melbourne in top 20 best cities in the world
 

Originally Posted by canadaeh (Post 8591142)
The survey was on cities, was it not?

And in the top 50, 26 of them are European cities, while only 6 are Australian cities, if you want to include New Zealand (as it’s in the region) then it makes a total of 7.

Out of the top 10 on the survey, 7 are European cities and 1 is Australia.

So yes, I’d say that makes Europe “Better”.

Very little in it really...

2 out of 6 Cities in Oceania, or 33%, were in the top 10
7 out of 26 Cities in Europe, or 27%, were in the top 10
and then
1 out of 12 Cities in North America, or 8% were in the top 10


The actual points awarded were interesting, comparing 2009 to 2010


2009 2010
106.3 106.3 Sydney
104.8 104.8 Melbourne
104.3 104.2 Perth
103.0 103.0 Adelaide
102.4 102.4 Brisbane
101.6 101.6 London

canadaeh May 26th 2010 1:23 pm

Re: Sydney and Melbourne in top 20 best cities in the world
 

Originally Posted by Ista (Post 8591182)
Uh, there's a lot more cities in Europe than in Australia.

There are indeed, and yet still with all those cities to look after, they still come out on top. Australian can’t even manage the few it has. :p


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