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kevinbloomfield Jan 18th 2014 3:17 am

Re: Sunshine Coast cost of living.
 

Originally Posted by jane_cornell (Post 11084215)
That sounds like the average living cost for most families.

I just wanted to clarify that private school at $115/week is at the low-medium end. If you want to send your kids to good private schools, it will cost at least $15,000-$20,000/year.

whats wrong with public schools?

Molly Coddle Jan 18th 2014 10:08 am

Re: Sunshine Coast cost of living.
 

Originally Posted by jane_cornell (Post 11084215)
That sounds like the average living cost for most families.

I just wanted to clarify that private school at $115/week is at the low-medium end. If you want to send your kids to good private schools, it will cost at least $15,000-$20,000/year.


The same as England then, good private schools here are £15,000 plus. Having said that I don't think there is a private school in England under £15,000. I know there's plenty a heck of a lot more expensive.


The whole Australian private school scenario confuses the hell out of me to be honest. Why are some so cheap and some so expensive? Shouldn't a private school be offering the best of everything? Isn't that the whole point of having private schools? Are the ones that are cheap just offering the best of some things?:lol: I just don't get it....

kevinbloomfield Jan 18th 2014 10:11 am

Re: Sunshine Coast cost of living.
 

Originally Posted by Molly Coddle (Post 11084466)
The same as England then, good private schools here are £15,000 plus. Having said that I don't think there is a private school in England under £15,000. I know there's plenty a heck of a lot more expensive.


The whole Australian private school scenario confuses the hell out of me to be honest. Why are some so cheap and some so expensive? Shouldn't a private school be offering the best of everything? Isn't that the whole point of having private schools? Are the ones that are cheap just offering the best of some things?:lol: I just don't get it....

and I dont get why people rate private schools so highly. I get that in the UK private schools are like having a detached house and BMW but otherwise is there any real benefits (in Australia)?

Molly Coddle Jan 18th 2014 10:52 am

Re: Sunshine Coast cost of living.
 

Originally Posted by kevinbloomfield (Post 11084468)
and I dont get why people rate private schools so highly. I get that in the UK private schools are like having a detached house and BMW but otherwise is there any real benefits (in Australia)?


Hi Kevin

For me it's not about status, I couldn't care less what people think about me or my belongings, I'll quite happily drive a shed of a car, as long as it works that's all that matters.

BUT...When it comes to my children's education, that matters more than anything to me. The quality of state education in Britain is horrendous and I'm not joking, I work in education and trust me, it's in a bad way! ( by the way I haven't made my mind up about the Australian education system yet, it's a bit of a minefield to me at the moment)

I would rather live in a tiny house and have no social life, have a crap car and do without any luxuries if it meant I could give my children a chance of getting a good education.

I believe a good education is the foundation of a good life. It can be built on. What the child chooses to build on it is up to them.
Some children who have had the chance might do nothing, they might leave their selective grammar schools or their £30,000 a year private school and become total bums! Whilst others will thrive and become hardworking, successful, decent people.
But, if you give your child the chance to a good education, be it state, grammar or private then at least you know they have had a good start, the right start to prepare them for a chance to a good life.

And as a mother, like most mothers I assume, I want the best for my children and I don't see anything wrong with that. :)

caleb2003 Jan 20th 2014 5:37 am

Re: Sunshine Coast cost of living.
 

Originally Posted by Molly Coddle (Post 11084466)
The same as England then, good private schools here are £15,000 plus. Having said that I don't think there is a private school in England under £15,000. I know there's plenty a heck of a lot more expensive.


The whole Australian private school scenario confuses the hell out of me to be honest. Why are some so cheap and some so expensive? Shouldn't a private school be offering the best of everything? Isn't that the whole point of having private schools? Are the ones that are cheap just offering the best of some things?:lol: I just don't get it....

We've had our child in Primary and then moved and put her in a state school and my wife worked in a private school and to be honest at Primary level in the Sunshine coast its not worth the cost as none of them achieve the level as an English grammar type. The private schools here are nearly all based on a religion and put a lot of money into new buildings but they don't seem to have any bigger budget than our state school for other things.

They also put a lot of focus on sports mainly because that can generate articles giving them a free advert in the paper.

I do know a few teachers in private High school level who state that it is more value at that level as they employ more specialist teachers.

You would be better off financially sending them to state school and if any further tutoring is required then a private tutor once or twice a week would be cheaper and effective.

Molly Coddle Jan 20th 2014 7:27 pm

Re: Sunshine Coast cost of living.
 

Originally Posted by caleb2003 (Post 11086825)
We've had our child in Primary and then moved and put her in a state school and my wife worked in a private school and to be honest at Primary level in the Sunshine coast its not worth the cost as none of them achieve the level as an English grammar type. The private schools here are nearly all based on a religion and put a lot of money into new buildings but they don't seem to have any bigger budget than our state school for other things.

They also put a lot of focus on sports mainly because that can generate articles giving them a free advert in the paper.

I do know a few teachers in private High school level who state that it is more value at that level as they employ more specialist teachers.

You would be better off financially sending them to state school and if any further tutoring is required then a private tutor once or twice a week would be cheaper and effective.

Hi Caleb


I absolutely agree that a child doesn't really need to be in private education at primary level, not really, not unless you have so much money you don't know what else to spend it on!

If I can find a good state high school, I will be a very happy bunny. I don't want to have to spend money unnecessarily. The problem I have with SOME state high schools is not just the lack of good teaching going on, but the clientele can sometimes be a little rough round the edges sort to speak. That may sound like I'm being a bit snobby, but I'm not at all, not one bit.

I just know my sons and I know that my eldest who is soon to be 16 will want to fit in with 'the Crowd'. He's having a bit of an identity crisis at the moment and as much as I trust him to make the right decisions, not to drink, not to take drugs or go to all night orgies. (he can wait till he's 18 for that:lol:) etc... I still have to try and find the right environment where that is least likely to happen. I know these things can happen in all schools, private and state but the chances are, they are more likely to happen in certain schools as a opposed to others.

So for me personally it's not just about a good education, it's about finding a school with some good kids in it, a school with a good ethos and a general good vibe to it, and if I find one and it's a state school well then that will be a bonus! And If I don't, I will try and find one that's private. But hopefully I won't have too.:)

Great idea about the tutoring, I'll be looking into that if need be.


Thanks Caleb.

Murray family Jan 24th 2014 8:29 am

Re: Sunshine Coast cost of living.
 
Thanks everyone for your comments. I have more of an idea about the cost of living now. The problem I have now is the Schools, talk about a mind field. I have researched and still none the wiser, my head will explode soon lol. Looking for a good primary state school around around/between Kawana waters down to Little Mountain/Pelican Waters areas. Any help :confused: !

Kind regards,

Lisa.

kevinbloomfield Jan 24th 2014 8:38 am

Re: Sunshine Coast cost of living.
 

Originally Posted by Murray family (Post 11094270)
Thanks everyone for your comments. I have more of an idea about the cost of living now. The problem I have now is the Schools, talk about a mind field. I have researched and still none the wiser, my head will explode soon lol. Looking for a good primary state school around around/between Kawana waters down to Little Mountain/Pelican Waters areas. Any help :confused: !

Kind regards,

Lisa.

yes, Buderim or Mountain Creek, new one at Brightwater (handy for british chippy). They'll all be ok.
Same goes for high schools but sometimes we here negative things about Maroochy high
Dont stress it, all will be good

chris955 Jan 24th 2014 8:46 am

Re: Sunshine Coast cost of living.
 
Again you are making sweeping generalisations based on the situation for you. Our kids are getting a great education in a wonderful school so you cant just say the quality of State education in Britain is horrendous. Unfortunately it is just so typical of some Brits to see everything as awful in this country even if the reality doesnt quite match.


Originally Posted by Molly Coddle (Post 11084488)
Hi Kevin


BUT...When it comes to my children's education, that matters more than anything to me. The quality of state education in Britain is horrendous and I'm not joking, I work in education and trust me, it's in a bad way! ( by the way I haven't made my mind up about the Australian education system yet, it's a bit of a minefield to me at the moment)


Bernieboy Jan 24th 2014 2:52 pm

Re: Sunshine Coast cost of living.
 

Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 11094290)
Again you are making sweeping generalisations based on the situation for you. Our kids are getting a great education in a wonderful school so you cant just say the quality of State education in Britain is horrendous. Unfortunately it is just so typical of some Brits to see everything as awful in this country even if the reality doesnt quite match.

Molly works in education,you my friend do not,i'll take her word;)

chris955 Jan 24th 2014 3:41 pm

Re: Sunshine Coast cost of living.
 

Originally Posted by Bernieboy (Post 11094786)
Molly works in education,you my friend do not,i'll take her word;)

For the whole of the country? OK :rofl:

Bernieboy Jan 24th 2014 4:45 pm

Re: Sunshine Coast cost of living.
 

Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 11094867)
For the whole of the country? OK :rofl:

She's a know all,just like you:D

northernbird Jan 24th 2014 4:47 pm

Re: Sunshine Coast cost of living.
 

Originally Posted by Molly Coddle (Post 11087955)
Hi Caleb


I absolutely agree that a child doesn't really need to be in private education at primary level, not really, not unless you have so much money you don't know what else to spend it on!

If I can find a good state high school, I will be a very happy bunny. I don't want to have to spend money unnecessarily. The problem I have with SOME state high schools is not just the lack of good teaching going on, but the clientele can sometimes be a little rough round the edges sort to speak. That may sound like I'm being a bit snobby, but I'm not at all, not one bit.

I just know my sons and I know that my eldest who is soon to be 16 will want to fit in with 'the Crowd'. He's having a bit of an identity crisis at the moment and as much as I trust him to make the right decisions, not to drink, not to take drugs or go to all night orgies. (he can wait till he's 18 for that:lol:) etc... I still have to try and find the right environment where that is least likely to happen. I know these things can happen in all schools, private and state but the chances are, they are more likely to happen in certain schools as a opposed to others.

So for me personally it's not just about a good education, it's about finding a school with some good kids in it, a school with a good ethos and a general good vibe to it, and if I find one and it's a state school well then that will be a bonus! And If I don't, I will try and find one that's private. But hopefully I won't have too.:)

Great idea about the tutoring, I'll be looking into that if need be.


Thanks Caleb.

My 16 year old went to a decent private high school with what appeared to be decent people. She still fell in with the wrong crowd, drink, drugs, suicide attempt etc. She now goes to one of the worst schools in the area and is finally on the straight and narrow. Don't be under any illusion that by paying for education you will not fall foul of these things.

Pollyana Jan 24th 2014 4:59 pm

Re: Sunshine Coast cost of living.
 

Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 11094990)
My 16 year old went to a decent private high school with what appeared to be decent people. She still fell in with the wrong crowd, drink, drugs, suicide attempt etc. She now goes to one of the worst schools in the area and is finally on the straight and narrow. Don't be under any illusion that by paying for education you will not fall foul of these things.

My brother is the only member of our family ever to have had a fee-paying education - he is also the only member of the family with a 30 year heroin addiction and a criminal record longer than any arm I can imagine............

Molly Coddle Jan 24th 2014 5:19 pm

Re: Sunshine Coast cost of living.
 

Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 11094990)
My 16 year old went to a decent private high school with what appeared to be decent people. She still fell in with the wrong crowd, drink, drugs, suicide attempt etc. She now goes to one of the worst schools in the area and is finally on the straight and narrow. Don't be under any illusion that by paying for education you will not fall foul of these things.

Hi

I'm sorry to hear about what happened to your daughter. And I know it can happen in any school, private or not.

I will put my children in the best school I can, be it private or state, hopefully state, it will save me a few pennies. I will go off how the school feels when I have a look round and of course when it comes to it I will get advice on here too.

I might end up making a wrong decision but I can only try what I think is right at the time, and take it from there.


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