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Buzzy--Bee Aug 7th 2014 2:45 pm

Speed Kills
 
Or does it?

Road traffic death rate per 100,000 population

Austria (maximum 130km/h) – 6.6
Australia (maximum 110km/h – except NT) – 6.1
Belgium (maximum 120km/h) – 8.1
Bulgaria (maximum 140km/h) – 10.4
Czech Republic (maximum 130km/h) – 7.6
Denmark (maximum 130km/h) – 4.7
France (maximum 130km/h) – 6.4
Germany (unlimited speed zones) – 4.7
Italy (maximum 130km/h) – 7.2
The Netherlands (maximum 130km/h) – 3.9
New Zealand (maximum 100km/h) - 7.4
Poland (maximum 140km/h) – 11.8
Spain (maximum 120km/h) – 5.4
Sweden (maximum 120km/h) – 3.0
Switzerland (maximum 120km/h) – 4.3
United Kingdom (maximum 113km/h/70mph) – 3.7

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Alfresco Aug 7th 2014 2:51 pm

Re: Speed Kills
 
Source please?

Amazulu Aug 7th 2014 2:58 pm

Re: Speed Kills
 

Originally Posted by Buzzy--Bee (Post 11362123)
Or does it?

Road traffic death rate per 100,000 population

Austria (maximum 130km/h) – 6.6
Australia (maximum 110km/h – except NT) – 6.1
Belgium (maximum 120km/h) – 8.1
Bulgaria (maximum 140km/h) – 10.4
Czech Republic (maximum 130km/h) – 7.6
Denmark (maximum 130km/h) – 4.7
France (maximum 130km/h) – 6.4
Germany (unlimited speed zones) – 4.7
Italy (maximum 130km/h) – 7.2
The Netherlands (maximum 130km/h) – 3.9
New Zealand (maximum 100km/h) - 7.4
Poland (maximum 140km/h) – 11.8
Spain (maximum 120km/h) – 5.4
Sweden (maximum 120km/h) – 3.0
Switzerland (maximum 120km/h) – 4.3
United Kingdom (maximum 113km/h/70mph) – 3.7

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Agree

Speed on its own is hardly ever a factor

Buzzy--Bee Aug 7th 2014 3:03 pm

Re: Speed Kills
 

Originally Posted by Alfresco (Post 11362126)
Source please?

Drive.com.au. - Should we have higher speed limits?

Probably somewhere else before that.

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Alfresco Aug 7th 2014 4:07 pm

Re: Speed Kills
 

Originally Posted by Buzzy--Bee (Post 11362130)
Drive.com.au. - Should we have higher speed limits?

Probably somewhere else before that.

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Thanks. Interesting article. I fully agree with higher speed limits argument. The 80/90 kph (lucky if you see 100) limits around Brisbane are ridiculous. :nod:

ozzieeagle Aug 7th 2014 5:03 pm

Re: Speed Kills
 
JAT.... Wouldnt there be less of the population as drivers per 100K in most of those countries compared to Aus ?

IE: In Sydney and Melbourne a far higher percentage of the population would drive to work compared to London, where commuters driving, would be minimal, because of the far superior public transport system ?

Disingenuous, sums up the article if it is based on population rather than actual drivers.

Thats not to say I'm against raising the speed limit, but I think we could do with far better roads first.

Swerv-o Aug 7th 2014 5:15 pm

Re: Speed Kills
 

Originally Posted by ozzieeagle (Post 11362171)
JAT.... Wouldnt there be less of the population as drivers per 100K in most of those countries compared to Aus ?

IE: In Sydney and Melbourne a far higher percentage of the population would drive to work compared to London, where commuters driving, would be minimal, because of the far superior public transport system ?

Disingenuous, sums up the article if it is based on population rather than actual drivers.

Thats not to say I'm against raising the speed limit, but I think we could do with far better roads first.


Yeah, some of the roads in Sydney are simply shocking. Worse than some third world countries.


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knockoff nige Aug 7th 2014 5:17 pm

Re: Speed Kills
 
Surely deaths can occur within speed limits? Driving at 100k in a 110k zone can kill someone. These figures always seem subjective to me.

If we can see how many deaths were within or outside of te speed limits and how many were outside of the maximum 110k as well as how many were as a direct result of speeding, then we'd have something to think about. This is just noise.

knockoff nige Aug 7th 2014 5:20 pm

Re: Speed Kills
 

Originally Posted by Swerv-o (Post 11362175)
Yeah, some of the roads in Sydney are simply shocking. Worse than some third world countries.


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I think that's because they lay roads brilliantly and in good time. And then dig them up to lay some fibre or something shortly afterwards.

Swerv-o Aug 7th 2014 5:28 pm

Re: Speed Kills
 

Originally Posted by knockoff nige (Post 11362180)
I think that's because they lay roads brilliantly and in good time. And then dig them up to lay some fibre or something shortly afterwards.


Yeah, then a water main. and then a gas main. And then some more fibre. And then some electrical cables...


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moneypenny20 Aug 7th 2014 5:52 pm

Re: Speed Kills
 
Speed doesn't kill. It's the violent and sudden stopping that does the killing.

Swerv-o Aug 7th 2014 6:20 pm

Re: Speed Kills
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 11362196)
Speed doesn't kill. It's the violent and sudden stopping that does the killing.


I've done loads of speed - it never did me any harm ;)


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Alfresco Aug 7th 2014 7:54 pm

Re: Speed Kills
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 11362196)
Speed doesn't kill. It's the violent and sudden stopping that does the killing.

Or in one word - impact.

Interestingly (or not) I was the witness to a prang this morning just outside work. A UTE trying to turn right into our loading bay smashed into an oncoming car. The sun was in his eyes and didn't even see the car (Hyundai i30). The poor lady in the car was ok, but the front of her car was smashed. All at less then 50 k's or 40 even.

fish.01 Aug 7th 2014 8:18 pm

Re: Speed Kills
 

Originally Posted by Alfresco (Post 11362269)
Or in one word - impact.

Interestingly (or not) I was the witness to a prang this morning just outside work. A UTE trying to turn right into our loading bay smashed into an oncoming car. The sun was in his eyes and didn't even see the car (Hyundai i30). The poor lady in the car was ok, but the front of her car was smashed. All at less then 50 k's or 40 even.

If he was going slower he would have had time to stop :)

Alfresco Aug 7th 2014 8:42 pm

Re: Speed Kills
 

Originally Posted by fish.01 (Post 11362291)
If he was going slower he would have had time to stop :)

It was like this...

UTE is stopped (briefly) and checking to turn right in loading bay (I was just watching casually, side on view on the drivers side going to cross to where I was standing). UTE then starts turning right from stationary toward me as I am by the loading bay. A screech of tyres of the car from the opposite direction trying to brake in time , but couldn't and then the collision occurred.

Clearly the UTE driver was at fault. He apologised (3x) and admitted he couldn't see a thing.

Mitsubishi UTE vs silver i30. He just had slight bumper damage only.


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