Speed Kills
#16
Re: Speed Kills
It was like this...
UTE is stopped (briefly) and checking to turn right in loading bay (I was just watching casually, side on view on the drivers side going to cross to where I was standing). UTE then starts turning right from stationary toward me as I am by the loading bay. A screech of tyres of the car from the opposite direction trying to brake in time , but couldn't and then the collision occurred.
Clearly the UTE driver was at fault. He apologised (3x) and admitted he couldn't see a thing.
Mitsubishi UTE vs silver i30. He just had slight bumper damage only.
UTE is stopped (briefly) and checking to turn right in loading bay (I was just watching casually, side on view on the drivers side going to cross to where I was standing). UTE then starts turning right from stationary toward me as I am by the loading bay. A screech of tyres of the car from the opposite direction trying to brake in time , but couldn't and then the collision occurred.
Clearly the UTE driver was at fault. He apologised (3x) and admitted he couldn't see a thing.
Mitsubishi UTE vs silver i30. He just had slight bumper damage only.
#18
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A lot all depends on what driver training (or lack of it) drivers receive?
My thoughts are that as part of a licence training/test, all drivers should learn proper car control from professional driver training centres, including collision avoidance, skid pan techniques etc.
Road conditions also play a major part in road crashes. Country roads (and I travel them a lot) are in a absolutely shocking state in SE Qld (if they are lucky, problem areas are only patched up again and again and again-not fixed properly), and I would assume in the rest of the country is the same. As long as governments fund upgrades to city roads they think the rest of the roads do not exist.
My thoughts are that as part of a licence training/test, all drivers should learn proper car control from professional driver training centres, including collision avoidance, skid pan techniques etc.
Road conditions also play a major part in road crashes. Country roads (and I travel them a lot) are in a absolutely shocking state in SE Qld (if they are lucky, problem areas are only patched up again and again and again-not fixed properly), and I would assume in the rest of the country is the same. As long as governments fund upgrades to city roads they think the rest of the roads do not exist.
#19
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Road traffic death rate per 100,000 population
Isn't this a slightly strange measure? The more usual scale is "per 100,000 km driven". This has shades of selective statistics. It's not so clear-cut.
Isn't this a slightly strange measure? The more usual scale is "per 100,000 km driven". This has shades of selective statistics. It's not so clear-cut.
#20
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Re: Speed Kills
Drive on a motorway or dual carriageway and compare the standard of driving of the average driver with a similar road in Australia and it really isnt surprising the death rate is higher in Australia. It is common to drive at 80mph plus on a motorway and feel safe doing it. The major difference is the level of courtesy and 'skill' and of course the state of the roads themselves has an influence.
#21
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Scroll down to page 41 to see how things have changed -
https://www.bitre.gov.au/publication...mmary_2013.pdf
and have a look at this
http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/c...ts/by-country/
then look at death by alcohol - makes Switzerland look much more dangerous.
https://www.bitre.gov.au/publication...mmary_2013.pdf
and have a look at this
http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/c...ts/by-country/
then look at death by alcohol - makes Switzerland look much more dangerous.
Last edited by lesleys; Aug 9th 2014 at 10:18 am. Reason: added link
#22
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From what I have seen in Australia on the roads. you just have to look at what P platers drive. Some extremely high performance cars and access to cubic capacities which we only dreamed of in our youth in the UK. One of the most popular being the UTE, big engine and no weight over the back wheels mmmmm what could go wrong. With an invincible youth behind the wheel. Single vehicle accidents seem to be the most common I think (dont have figures)and speed is often attributed. Then theres alcohol which after all their efforts still plays a major role. courtesy almost non existent,
ever tried letting someone out, They just stare at you as if to say "what are you doing" and skill Ha. Ooh I`m getting old and cranky. Be safe out there, Good luck
ever tried letting someone out, They just stare at you as if to say "what are you doing" and skill Ha. Ooh I`m getting old and cranky. Be safe out there, Good luck
#23
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I'm no fan of Australia's nanny state speed limits but I find that on a lot of country roads, the 110kph max. is about right. Anything more than that on a twisting, single lane road is a bit too dangerous
#24
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Especially where there are bloody Emus.... I wasn't personally prepared for day time encounters with your WA Emus.
#25
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Re: Speed Kills
Drive on a motorway or dual carriageway and compare the standard of driving of the average driver with a similar road in Australia and it really isnt surprising the death rate is higher in Australia. It is common to drive at 80mph plus on a motorway and feel safe doing it. The major difference is the level of courtesy and 'skill' and of course the state of the roads themselves has an influence.
The quality of Motorways on the UK greatly exceeds Australia. Lane width for one. Tightness of corners. Anyone ever done the M1 from Sydney to Newcastle? Towards Newcastle its nearly dead straight but the road is so bumpy its hard to get near 110.