Specifically how is Australia behind the UK ?
#16
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,277
![kirsty&al is on a distinguished road](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by BenandPam
I keep reading about how Australia is behind the UK/Europe/USA by anything from 2 to 10 years. I am interested in specifically how you consider Australia to be behind in terms of attitudes, work practices, consumer goods available (not interested in the availability of Walkers crisps though
).
![Smile](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
- People still use their indicators.
- Shop keepers will tell you that you don't need their product.
- Our local paper seriously suggested making a macramé wall hanging to brighten up the hall.
- People sell stuff by the side of the road (they also have honesty boxes that don't get nicked).
- Knitting, embroidery and making your own clothes are still popular.
- There is a "Buy Australia" campaign.
- Public Toilets are still open and generally well maintained (they also have loo roll - according to my wife).
- The petrol prices change every day - depending on the day of the week.
- The price of petrol goes down as well as up.
- Some roads are still dirt tracks/gravel roads.
- A bar in your sitting room, gold taps and brick feature walls are still considered plus-points by estate agents.
- Outside of the cities the roads are still empty.
- You can still turn right off dual carriageways.
- Internet shopping is poor; people still use the Yellow Pages.
- Generally teenagers don't treat you as a moron.
- Kids still walk and cycle to school (without an adult) and seem to have a lot more freedom generally.
My wife was worried that all the men would be beer-swilling, foul-mouthed, sports-watching sexists, but we haven’t met one yet.
Disclaimer: these comments are based on my own experiences and on the area in which I live. I am sure there are other areas of Australia where the things I have said do not apply.
Regards
Alistair
PS: A friend from Tassie says that it is still like the 50s there.
![kirsty&al is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#17
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by kirsty&al
My wife was worried that all the men would be beer-swilling, foul-mouthed, sports-watching sexists, but we haven’t met one yet.
Still, there's always question time in Oz parliament...
![MikeStanton is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#18
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,277
![kirsty&al is on a distinguished road](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by MikeStanton
Why, haven't you managed to open the front door?
Still, there's always question time in Oz parliament...
Still, there's always question time in Oz parliament...
![kirsty&al is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#19
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by kirsty&al
More times than you have opened your mind.
![MikeStanton is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#20
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,277
![kirsty&al is on a distinguished road](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by MikeStanton
How's the draft (sic) in yours?
Guinness Draught: Pure Genius.
Last edited by kirsty&al; Dec 19th 2004 at 11:22 pm.
![kirsty&al is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#21
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by kirsty&al
More times than you have opened your mind.
![Big Grin](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
![Big Grin](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
OzTennis
![Smile](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Last edited by OzTennis; Dec 20th 2004 at 12:35 am.
![OzTennis is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#22
Keeping it fairly real
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
Joined: Jun 2004
Location: In the sun
Posts: 32,863
![walla has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![walla has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![walla has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![walla has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![walla has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![walla has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![walla has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![walla has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![walla has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![walla has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![walla has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by BenandPam
I keep reading about how Australia is behind the UK/Europe/USA by anything from 2 to 10 years. I am interested in specifically how you consider Australia to be behind in terms of attitudes, work practices, consumer goods available (not interested in the availability of Walkers crisps though
).
![Smile](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
You can get Walkers crisps in Perth at the British Shop in Riveton
![Wink](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif)
![walla is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#23
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by diddy
I'd agree with that. I used to get great pizza from a place in FNQ. Never really matched it here. Maybe I'm not eating enough pizza in the UK.
How long before we get told off by SherKhan for talking pizza?
Paul.
How long before we get told off by SherKhan for talking pizza?
Paul.
![Smile](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
ANYWAY, BACK TO TOPIC!
![Big Grin](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
![SherKhan66 is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#24
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by walla1
on one issue, I would say Australia is ahead in terms of disability services.
You can get Walkers crisps in Perth at the British Shop in Riveton![Wink](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif)
You can get Walkers crisps in Perth at the British Shop in Riveton
![Wink](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Australia is also ahead on history - it's soooo old UK history.
![Big Grin](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
OzTennis
![Smile](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
![OzTennis is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#25
BE Enthusiast
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
Joined: Jan 2003
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 378
![Wendy&Mike has a brilliant future](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![Wendy&Mike has a brilliant future](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![Wendy&Mike has a brilliant future](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![Wendy&Mike has a brilliant future](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![Wendy&Mike has a brilliant future](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![Wendy&Mike has a brilliant future](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Got to say, I agree with Alistair.
I would say that the biggest difference that I noticed was crime. Aus is definitely 30 years behind when it comes to crime. Partly why I/we came here. Just recently there was a fight in the middle of Brisbane - no one was hospitalised or arrested - it was teenagers having an argument that got out of hand. This made front page news, and there was calls for an inquiry as to how to make the city center safer. In the UK there can be murder and it doesn't get any coverage.
I/we also noticed toilet paper in public toilets - oh yes, and we noticed public toilets. And (un vandalised) parks for children to play in.
One other thing. Drink driving - in this weeks International Express it states that in UK there is approx 500,000 breath tests per annum. An advert on Aus TV states there are 2,500,000 breath tests per annum in Queensland alone. I do however believe that this is a bigger problem here but am reassured by the fact something is being done about it.
Anyway, midnight here, very late, too many tinnies and still got to drive home (just kidding).
All the best,
Mike.
I would say that the biggest difference that I noticed was crime. Aus is definitely 30 years behind when it comes to crime. Partly why I/we came here. Just recently there was a fight in the middle of Brisbane - no one was hospitalised or arrested - it was teenagers having an argument that got out of hand. This made front page news, and there was calls for an inquiry as to how to make the city center safer. In the UK there can be murder and it doesn't get any coverage.
I/we also noticed toilet paper in public toilets - oh yes, and we noticed public toilets. And (un vandalised) parks for children to play in.
One other thing. Drink driving - in this weeks International Express it states that in UK there is approx 500,000 breath tests per annum. An advert on Aus TV states there are 2,500,000 breath tests per annum in Queensland alone. I do however believe that this is a bigger problem here but am reassured by the fact something is being done about it.
Anyway, midnight here, very late, too many tinnies and still got to drive home (just kidding).
All the best,
Mike.
![Wendy&Mike is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#26
She's Diddy, He's Not
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
Joined: Apr 2004
Location: Gold Coast - just like Felixstowe
Posts: 2,454
![diddy has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![diddy has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![diddy has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![diddy has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![diddy has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![diddy has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![diddy has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![diddy has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![diddy has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![diddy has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![diddy has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by OzTennis
To add to disability services, in the UK is it possible for a woman (teacher) to have a child and be guaranteed a job to return to in 5 years time? No, it's have a child and if you want to continue working it's turn it over to the child minder and get back to work (what's my child's name again child minder?) The Australian policy encourages mother to bring up her child (although you can turn it over to the child minder or husband/partner if you want to return to work, there is a choice). Ahead on maternity/paternity/long service leave I'd say.
Australia is also ahead on history - it's soooo old UK history.
OzTennis![Smile](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Australia is also ahead on history - it's soooo old UK history.
![Big Grin](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
OzTennis
![Smile](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Ta,
Paul.
![diddy is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#27
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by Wendy&Mike
Got to say, I agree with Alistair.
I would say that the biggest difference that I noticed was crime. Aus is definitely 30 years behind when it comes to crime. .
I would say that the biggest difference that I noticed was crime. Aus is definitely 30 years behind when it comes to crime. .
![MikeStanton is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#28
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by OzTennis
![Big Grin](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
![Big Grin](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
OzTennis
![Smile](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
So, you went to the University of Wollgamagooolwagggawompawoop or the local TAFE. OK, it counts for nowt, outside Oz. But, you can take comfort from the fact that somebody, somewhere has heard of it.
Haven't they?
![MikeStanton is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#29
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by diddy
Does this apply to all jobs?
Ta,
Paul.
Ta,
Paul.
There is a series on satellite TV here called Booze Britain. Binge drinking is another thing that the UK is well ahead of Australia at. The under 25's, girls in particular, proudly lead Europe at this.
OzTennis
![Smile](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
![OzTennis is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
#30
Bitter and twisted
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
![](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/ranks/star.gif)
Joined: Dec 2003
Location: Upmarket
Posts: 17,503
![Grayling has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![Grayling has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![Grayling has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![Grayling has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![Grayling has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_pos.gif)
![Grayling has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![Grayling has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![Grayling has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![Grayling has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![Grayling has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![Grayling has a reputation beyond repute](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/reputation/reputation_highpos.gif)
![Default](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by OzTennis
There is a series on satellite TV here called Booze Britain. Binge drinking is another thing that the UK is well ahead of Australia at. The under 25's, girls in particular, proudly lead Europe at this.
OzTennis![Smile](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
OzTennis
![Smile](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_...55E421,00.html
![Roll Eyes](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
G
![Grayling is offline](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)