Snobs
Oct 23rd 2003, 1:16 pm
#61
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Originally posted by tennisoz
I suppose the point is that Australia is a big country and yet it is highly urbanised with the majority of the people living on the coast in the cities. You will get to know 'the Australian PEOPLE' more in the city (over 90% of them reside there). However you will get to know the Australian COUNTRYSIDE 'in the bush' (it's almost 100% of the land area).
I am not suggesting that the minority who live outside the city aren't different, friendlier or whatever, just that they are the minority (they probably are friendlier and certainly different - I lived in Bendigo for 5 years, Melbourne for 25 years so I have some idea). I'm not sure what I'm really saying now I come to think of it!!
TennisOz
I suppose the point is that Australia is a big country and yet it is highly urbanised with the majority of the people living on the coast in the cities. You will get to know 'the Australian PEOPLE' more in the city (over 90% of them reside there). However you will get to know the Australian COUNTRYSIDE 'in the bush' (it's almost 100% of the land area).
I am not suggesting that the minority who live outside the city aren't different, friendlier or whatever, just that they are the minority (they probably are friendlier and certainly different - I lived in Bendigo for 5 years, Melbourne for 25 years so I have some idea). I'm not sure what I'm really saying now I come to think of it!!
TennisOz
I see where you're coming from though. Maybe the point is that the aussies are a varied lot, as is their culture, their countryside and their cities. Just got to find the bit you like the best and leave it at that
Oct 23rd 2003, 1:43 pm
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Originally posted by bundy
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I see where you're coming from though. Maybe the point is that the aussies are a varied lot, as is their culture, their countryside and their cities. Just got to find the bit you like the best and leave it at that
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I see where you're coming from though. Maybe the point is that the aussies are a varied lot, as is their culture, their countryside and their cities. Just got to find the bit you like the best and leave it at that
TennisOz
Oct 23rd 2003, 1:49 pm
#63
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Originally posted by tennisoz
Exactly, and don't purport to know from your little bit about a whole country and a whole population on the basis of your (not you literally Bundy!) limited experience.
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Exactly, and don't purport to know from your little bit about a whole country and a whole population on the basis of your (not you literally Bundy!) limited experience.
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Oct 23rd 2003, 2:17 pm
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<i>Typos occur less to touch typists because they are looking at their post as it appears on the screen rather than 'hunting and pecking' at the keyboard!</i>
The problem is, once you've developed a fast enough bad habit, using a typing tutor program isn't enough to get you up to enough speed to switch. My toddler isn't getting near a PC until he's old enough to learn to touch type from the start - even though I worry about RSI on little bones.
The problem is, once you've developed a fast enough bad habit, using a typing tutor program isn't enough to get you up to enough speed to switch. My toddler isn't getting near a PC until he's old enough to learn to touch type from the start - even though I worry about RSI on little bones.
Oct 24th 2003, 9:17 am
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Oct 24th 2003, 10:21 am
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Re: Snobs
Originally posted by podgypossum
I have noted since i joined this board, that several people don't seem to realise just how snobbish they appear...of course, if thats how they wished to be perceived then fine by me, but, i do worry about them coming down here to the southern hemisphere.
I have found that here in NZ those who like to judge others by the clothes they wear, their "background", physical appearance or amount of money they have in the bank, get a very rough ride!!! I am pretty sure it will be pretty much the same in Aus.
The things that appear to be important in some social circles in UK, quite often will ostrocise them down here...maybe these people are the ones who don't "fit" in. I maybe wrong, i'll probably get a torrent of abuse too, for daring to suggest such a thing.
When you are alone in a new country and it is YOU that needs to fit in, being a pretty young thing, wearing the right sunglasses and driving the right car, could just well be your downfall!!
I have noted since i joined this board, that several people don't seem to realise just how snobbish they appear...of course, if thats how they wished to be perceived then fine by me, but, i do worry about them coming down here to the southern hemisphere.
I have found that here in NZ those who like to judge others by the clothes they wear, their "background", physical appearance or amount of money they have in the bank, get a very rough ride!!! I am pretty sure it will be pretty much the same in Aus.
The things that appear to be important in some social circles in UK, quite often will ostrocise them down here...maybe these people are the ones who don't "fit" in. I maybe wrong, i'll probably get a torrent of abuse too, for daring to suggest such a thing.
When you are alone in a new country and it is YOU that needs to fit in, being a pretty young thing, wearing the right sunglasses and driving the right car, could just well be your downfall!!
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Oct 24th 2003, 10:02 pm
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The class system: There isn't really one in Oz,
Sorry folks but if you dig deep you'll find that Aussies do judge and discriminate . A lot come to the UK and have a fascination with our class system, where suddenly I find they are classifying people according to their upbringing, jobs and social class. To a level where most UK folk don't bother their arse.
I say this after being personally insulted with snobby comments because I am a midwife from Glasgow, where I am obviously being pigeon holed into their class order.
This from friends I have known for years before they travel over here.
They're like any other nation, they have their good and bad points.
Sorry folks but if you dig deep you'll find that Aussies do judge and discriminate . A lot come to the UK and have a fascination with our class system, where suddenly I find they are classifying people according to their upbringing, jobs and social class. To a level where most UK folk don't bother their arse.
I say this after being personally insulted with snobby comments because I am a midwife from Glasgow, where I am obviously being pigeon holed into their class order.
This from friends I have known for years before they travel over here.
They're like any other nation, they have their good and bad points.
Oct 24th 2003, 10:25 pm
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Originally posted by Barbara 2003
I say this after being personally insulted with snobby comments because I am a midwife from Glasgow, where I am obviously being pigeon holed into their class order.
This from friends I have known for years before they travel over here.
I say this after being personally insulted with snobby comments because I am a midwife from Glasgow, where I am obviously being pigeon holed into their class order.
This from friends I have known for years before they travel over here.
Most aussies wouldnt know if being a midwife from Glasgow was a good or a bad thing when it comes to the UK class system, I certainly dont & Ive been there! Like I have said before, if these insults & attitudes come from friends, you need to find new friends! :scared:
Oct 24th 2003, 10:33 pm
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Originally posted by MrsDagboy
No offence Barbara, but if you are saying that aussies insulted you & judged you because you are/were a midwife from Glasgow & were a certain class, how the hell did they do that? Most aussies wouldnt know if being a midwife from Glasgow was a good or a bad thing when it comes to the UK class system, I certainly dont & Ive been there!
Like I have said before, if these insults & attitudes come from friends, you need to find new friends! :scared:
No offence Barbara, but if you are saying that aussies insulted you & judged you because you are/were a midwife from Glasgow & were a certain class, how the hell did they do that?
Most aussies wouldnt know if being a midwife from Glasgow was a good or a bad thing when it comes to the UK class system, I certainly dont & Ive been there! Like I have said before, if these insults & attitudes come from friends, you need to find new friends! :scared:
In which case its the english class system at work again, as I bet they wouldnt give 2 hoots or even know the difference before they go over there.Either way, I still think you need new friends
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Oct 25th 2003, 3:32 am
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Originally posted by Donk
i think the word 'snob' is being used in the wrong context. The definition is
Snob
Snob n. 1. A vulgar person who affects to be better, richer, or more fashionable, than he really is; a vulgar upstart; one who apes his superiors. Thackeray.
My next door neighbour shops at Tesco, yet brings shopping home in Sainsburys bags. to me thats a snob.
i think the word 'snob' is being used in the wrong context. The definition is
Snob
Snob n. 1. A vulgar person who affects to be better, richer, or more fashionable, than he really is; a vulgar upstart; one who apes his superiors. Thackeray.
My next door neighbour shops at Tesco, yet brings shopping home in Sainsburys bags. to me thats a snob.
My Australian born partner/girlfriend asked me to get her a Harrods bag the last time I went to England on holiday! I duly went to Harrods had lunch and bought a couple of cheap things. I convinced the girl at the check-out to give me a few plastic bags.
When I arrived back in Australia my girlfriend looked at my present and said "No - I wanted a material one!".
I think that snobbery is more rife in England than Australia but it does exist here.
Oct 25th 2003, 6:06 am
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there sure is snobbery here in Queenstown.I've never been looked down upon as much since coming to NZ.It seems to exsist just in Queenstown as i've neverr found anything like this anywhere else in all the time we've been here.There is a culture of who's got the nicest vehicle too...they're all cruising around town trying to look flash.
Oct 25th 2003, 1:14 pm
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yes, where there's money there will always be snobbery....
but deedee I see a difference in NZ vs the Uk.
In NZ everybody starts from more or less the same place, and anybody can join the flash car 'club' if they have enough money....
Whereas in the UK this is true to an extent, but the differences in your background are harder to shift. ie, you can be a top footballer with an flash car, live in the right place, have the right friends etc, but you'll always be 'working class'. The labels are worn like a badge - you don't get that so much in NZ. Some of it goes unspoken for sure - but it plays a much bigger part in British society.
Like which newspaper you read - that type of thing....
but deedee I see a difference in NZ vs the Uk.
In NZ everybody starts from more or less the same place, and anybody can join the flash car 'club' if they have enough money....
Whereas in the UK this is true to an extent, but the differences in your background are harder to shift. ie, you can be a top footballer with an flash car, live in the right place, have the right friends etc, but you'll always be 'working class'. The labels are worn like a badge - you don't get that so much in NZ. Some of it goes unspoken for sure - but it plays a much bigger part in British society.
Like which newspaper you read - that type of thing....
Oct 25th 2003, 2:13 pm
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Originally posted by MrsDagboy
Or am I completely confused & you mean aussies in the UK?
In which case its the english class system at work again, as I bet they wouldnt give 2 hoots or even know the difference before they go over there.
Either way, I still think you need new friends.
Or am I completely confused & you mean aussies in the UK?
In which case its the english class system at work again, as I bet they wouldnt give 2 hoots or even know the difference before they go over there.Either way, I still think you need new friends
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Oct 25th 2003, 2:42 pm
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Originally posted by jandjuk
you can be a top footballer with an flash car, live in the right place, have the right friends etc, but you'll always be 'working class'.
you can be a top footballer with an flash car, live in the right place, have the right friends etc, but you'll always be 'working class'.