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bundy Jun 18th 2004 10:17 am


Originally posted by Megalania
Best "SubBlock"? An all year round light tan, a broad rimmed hat and something more substantial than a string of beads.

"SunCream" - put it where it don't shine.

Thought the best sunblock was the shade

dotty Jun 18th 2004 10:19 am


Originally posted by bundy
Because I thought the figures were actually higher than that in Oz - something along the lines of 1 in 20.

I would be hard pressed to find anyone we knew in OZ who had not had a mole or cancer removed, as people have said tho almost any thing will be removed as a precaution. 2 GP's in our surgery left and set up skin clinics just to remove cancers or moles full time.

I had 2 removed, white skin blonde hair, never ever sunbathe, one was on my neck, Doctor said totally harmless but just to be sure, went for biopsy was the kind that unattended would have grown into my body and spread. One on the side of my wrist was straight out cancer now have a 10 cent piece deep chunk cut out of my wrist. Great big piece of flesh missing to make sure they got it all. My watch had to be taken in 3 holes after the surgery to fit.

Husbands daughter aged 14 first cancer removed, on her back, most people dont realise harmful rays go straight through most clothes, you need sunblock under them not just on the exposed skin. She has dark hair dark skin and dark eyes.

My husbands eyes are damaged by the sun, Oz kids 40 years ago did not wear sunglasses or hats, eye damage is very common.

15 minutes (actually that was often 9 in summer) to get cancer, people can call me negative all they like but the Australian sun is not something anyone should want to go out in.

bundy Jun 18th 2004 10:25 am


Originally posted by dotty


15 minutes (actually that was often 9 in summer) to get cancer, people can call me negative all they like but the Australian sun is not something anyone should want to go out in.

I completely agree. It's skin damage after all. I never sunbathe in Oz (too boring aprt from anything), but was often working outside so it's the whole slip-slap-slop thing for me. You can feel how strong the sun is in Oz

MarkMyWords Jun 18th 2004 10:26 am


Originally posted by bundy
Fair enough, in a way, as it would drain the NHS etc. But if he's worrying about them, why not get them removed?
Because as you say it would be a drain. Sure, prevention is better (and cheaper) than cure, but underfunded healthcare too often has to make difficult triage decisions.

In his case, though, why not simply wait until you've got back to Nundle?

bundy Jun 18th 2004 10:29 am


Originally posted by MarkMyWords

In his case, though, why not simply wait until you've got back to Nundle?
That's the plan. He did actually get them looked at when we were back in November, but there was no time to do anything about them

Megalania Jun 18th 2004 10:48 am


Originally posted by dotty
My husbands eyes are damaged by the sun, Oz kids 40 years ago did not wear sunglasses or hats,
More DisInformation.

ABCDiamond Jun 18th 2004 10:53 am


Originally posted by dotty
:confused:

Why do people find this reassuring:scared:

20 million aussies so 1 in 53 get skin cancer

60 million poms so 1 in 869 get skin cancer

Then if you read on the australian article it says another 1000 die of melanoma add add that to the 374, then take into account the population and almost 3 times as many aussies die!

Even with the irresponsible atttitude to sun you see in the UK and the avoid at all costs attitude in OZ the figures in OZ are way higher.

Australian article also mentions 15 mnutes in their sun is enough to do the damage.

Not quite sure when you tot the figures how this is one bit reassuring at all:scared:
I think that the bit that is reassuring comes down to this:

It says that 374,000 in Australia get skin cancer, which is a high figure, but only 360 die; that's about 1 in every 1,000

Yet compared to the UK, where only 69,000 get skin cancer, but 2,000 die, that's about 28 in every 1,000 that die.

This seems to show that in Australia, the skin cancers get diagnosed, and treated, and therefore less deaths per 1,000 who do get it.

I didn't see figures for melanoma in the UK report so haven't compared those.

Everyone who comes to Australia SHOULD be fully aware that the sun gets HOT, and that the risk of getting skin cancer is high. It may be re-assuring to them that IF they do get it, it can be recognised and treated.

It may also just be reassuring to read the articles, and see what can be done to avoid getting it in the first place :)

That reminds me, the last time i saw my GP, he asked me to make an appointment to have my skin checked, just in case.

Megalania Jun 18th 2004 11:00 am


Originally posted by bundy
Thought the best sunblock was the shade
Someone actually has a bloody clue at last! Now your in the sunshine - what produces shade?

MarkMyWords Jun 18th 2004 11:06 am


Originally posted by Megalania
Someone actually has a bloody clue at last! Now your in the sunshine - what produces shade?
Glasses, hat. I thought that was the "slip, slap" bit? A widespread clue, I would have thought. (Or not. I'm still just an ignorant Brit for the next few weeks!)

Larissa Jun 18th 2004 11:07 am

Ignorance is the biggest killer :(

ABCDiamond Jun 18th 2004 11:13 am


Originally posted by Megalania
Someone actually has a bloody clue at last! Now your in the sunshine - what produces shade?
Clouds !! :D

Larissa Jun 18th 2004 11:15 am


Originally posted by bundy
Thought the best sunblock was the shade
Sounds like my dad... he reckons that suncream is a rip-off and is often wrongly used etc. You end up depending on the suncream, instead of changing your behaviour.
Mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun :cool:

Megalania Jun 18th 2004 11:20 am

Good Boys & Girls. Now what else? Use the white board if it helps.

darkless Jun 18th 2004 12:06 pm


Originally posted by ABCDiamond
Clouds !! :D

That is not true either - which is possibly why the figures show more in the UK die of skin cancer. Either that or it is the 12 hours a day for 14 days solid of the hoards of Benidorm-goers

Megalania Jun 18th 2004 12:25 pm


Originally posted by darkless
That is not true either - which is possibly why the figures show more in the UK die of skin cancer. Either that or it is the 12 hours a day for 14 days solid of the hoards of Benidorm-goers
Not all skin cancer is sun caused.


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