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Originally Posted by JAJ
For those who didn't know about him:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joh_Bjelke-Petersen
His most significant legacy has been the economic development of Queensland. Politically, his actions in the later period of his time in government helped entrench Labor as the natural party of state government in Queensland. Whether intentionally or otherwise.
He helped to force the 1975 federal election (which led to Labor being thrown out of office federally), but not to be outdone in 1987 derailed the Prime Ministerial ambitions of then Opposition Leader John Howard.
It seems that by his birthplace he was a Kiwi, at least technically.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joh_Bjelke-Petersen
His most significant legacy has been the economic development of Queensland. Politically, his actions in the later period of his time in government helped entrench Labor as the natural party of state government in Queensland. Whether intentionally or otherwise.
He helped to force the 1975 federal election (which led to Labor being thrown out of office federally), but not to be outdone in 1987 derailed the Prime Ministerial ambitions of then Opposition Leader John Howard.
It seems that by his birthplace he was a Kiwi, at least technically.
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Is that the National Party that harbored Pauline Hansen recently?
Ironic, from reading the write-up, to hear that his knighthood was granted for 'services to democracy'...
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Originally Posted by MrsDagboy
Wether he was a good guy or a bad guy, as Jeremy said he brought hell of alot of development & economic prosperity to Qld.
to him.
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What a fascinating, larger than life guy, though - do you think they will make a movie of his life story - and who should star as him?
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Is that the National Party that harbored Pauline Hansen recently?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauline_Hanson
Ms Hanson was a Liberal (coalition partner of the Nationals) candidate for the seat of Oxley in suburban Brisbane when she was disendorsed by the Liberals for making certain remarks in the the 1996 election campaign. She won as an independent.
Ironic, from reading the write-up, to hear that his knighthood was granted for 'services to democracy'...
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Originally Posted by anya4oz
Mrs D, would you say he was a bit like the QLD equiv of, say, the UK's Maggie Thatcher, maybe? .
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Originally Posted by anya4oz
Mrs D, would you say he was a bit like the QLD equiv of, say, the UK's Maggie Thatcher, maybe?
What a fascinating, larger than life guy, though - do you think they will make a movie of his life story - and who should star as him?
Cheers,
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What a fascinating, larger than life guy, though - do you think they will make a movie of his life story - and who should star as him?
Cheers,
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As for the movie, like most political dramas it may not make totally rivetting viewing & Im not sure who they could get to say "dont you worry about that" without bursting out laughing.
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What about Hugh Jackman? Or Heath Ledger? At least give the women something to drool over though the heavy dialogue?
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Originally Posted by MrsDagboy
Whether he was a good guy or a bad guy, as Jeremy said he brought hell of alot of development & economic prosperity to Qld.
to him.
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Originally Posted by mr mover
HE also brought a "hell of a lot of distruction" to Queenslands eco-system,
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Originally Posted by mr mover
HE also brought a "hell of a lot of distruction" to Queenslands eco-system,
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The comparisons with Maggie seem very apt.
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Originally Posted by anya4oz
I was just about to post a thread here, asking the Aussies on this forum if they rated him 'saint or sinner'.
As a relatively new immigrant, I'd not heard of him until about a week ago, & have heard a number of contradictory media reports. He certainly sounds like a colorful character....
So: Good guy? Bad guy? What do you all think - and why?
Cheers,
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As a relatively new immigrant, I'd not heard of him until about a week ago, & have heard a number of contradictory media reports. He certainly sounds like a colorful character....
So: Good guy? Bad guy? What do you all think - and why?
Cheers,
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Excuse my ignorance, but just trying to get my head around it, and how the general public and the government view his past.
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Originally Posted by logan
With all the recent news reports on him, Mr L and I have both been trying to work out the whole 'saint' or 'sinner' theory. The news reports seemed to tell it like it is, including the major inquiry into him and his cohorts. I understand that it was a hung jury, but I get the feeling that a lot of people do believe he was crooked/bent whatever you wish to call it. So how come his name doesn't seem to be tarnished, or disgraced? Is it simply because he wasn't actually found guilty?
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Excuse my ignorance, but just trying to get my head around it, and how the general public and the government view his past.
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The jury Foreman turned out to be a member of the " Friends of Joh Group"
and a member of the National Party, sir Johs own party.
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Originally Posted by MrsDagboy
Whether he was a good guy or a bad guy, as Jeremy said he brought hell of alot of development & economic prosperity to Qld.
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Originally Posted by logan
I understand that it was a hung jury,:
I think that he did things his way, overruling the law where required, to get the result that he thought was best.
What did the general QLD population think about him ? The voted him back in 7 times (I think) ?
One of the top union leaders didn't like him, and said he should not get a State Funeral.
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Didnt he get voted in on 18% of the vote, created his own boundaries so his votes were worth more or something.
He went out in true aussie style too tried to sue the government for 3 million bucks for stress
Claim was chucked out of court.
Still he went off setting a new trend, getting buried in his own back yard
wonder what permit we need for that
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Still he went off setting a new trend, getting buried in his own back yard
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Ummm, if I likened someone that I thought did alot of political good in his career with Maggie Thatcher, I'd end up divorced Anya ... ....
. Can't I just do the History O-level question?
As for the movie, like most political dramas it may not make totally rivetting viewing & Im not sure who they could get to say "dont you worry about that" without bursting out laughing.![Wink](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif)
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As for the movie, like most political dramas it may not make totally rivetting viewing & Im not sure who they could get to say "dont you worry about that" without bursting out laughing.
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What about Hugh Jackman? Or Heath Ledger? At least give the women something to drool over though the heavy dialogue?
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Yes, go on, do the History O-level question.....!
How about Sean Penn? Saw him in 'The Interpreter' last week, & thought he looked quite presentable
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