Shortest day V longest day
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Shortest day V longest day
For many of us on here its our first shortest day in june
I was just wondering how early darkness falls in various states in deep mid winter It might be of interest to the poms too
PS. just to cheer those of us on the darkside up, it gets 2 mins lighter a day as of tomorrow
PPS. its a chance for you others to be smug and tell us how light it is (and warm) overthere
I was just wondering how early darkness falls in various states in deep mid winter It might be of interest to the poms too
PS. just to cheer those of us on the darkside up, it gets 2 mins lighter a day as of tomorrow
PPS. its a chance for you others to be smug and tell us how light it is (and warm) overthere
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Yeah roll on our extra 2 mins of light per day. Its even harder when working nightshift, I only see around 3 hours of daylight per day just now although I remember Winter in Scotland it could start getting dark at 3 to 3.30pm & I'd never see daylight for months.
23 years of working nights & rapidly becoming a vampire.
ps How was the hangover on Sunday morning Hevs ???
23 years of working nights & rapidly becoming a vampire.
ps How was the hangover on Sunday morning Hevs ???
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Brisbane today is 06:38 Sunrise and 17:02 sunset
London is 04:42 and 21:20
and for those who really don't like to sleep in the dark Reykjavik (sp?) sunrise is 02:58 and sunset 00:00, i.e 3 hours darkness!
London is 04:42 and 21:20
and for those who really don't like to sleep in the dark Reykjavik (sp?) sunrise is 02:58 and sunset 00:00, i.e 3 hours darkness!
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OOOO I hadn't realised that!!!! For some reason it doesn't seem as dark as the shortest day in the UK
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Weather Commentary for Thredbo area:
Isolated snow showers persisted on Sunday, but will continue to clear rapidly as the large high over SA moves over the eastern states. This high will result in a spell of sunny weather and frosty nights until Wednesday, when the next front is expected to pass through. A low pressure system crossing Bass Strait may result in moderately low snow levels, but there is not a large amount of precipitation expected. Next weekend is looking clear and dry with light winds and excellent conditions.
Forecast:
Wednesday Light snowfalls developing. 5cm of snow
Thursday Scattered snow showers. 10cm of snow
Friday Light snowfalls clearing. 5cm of snow
Isolated snow showers persisted on Sunday, but will continue to clear rapidly as the large high over SA moves over the eastern states. This high will result in a spell of sunny weather and frosty nights until Wednesday, when the next front is expected to pass through. A low pressure system crossing Bass Strait may result in moderately low snow levels, but there is not a large amount of precipitation expected. Next weekend is looking clear and dry with light winds and excellent conditions.
Forecast:
Wednesday Light snowfalls developing. 5cm of snow
Thursday Scattered snow showers. 10cm of snow
Friday Light snowfalls clearing. 5cm of snow
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Originally posted by rudo1ph
OOOO I hadn't realised that!!!! For some reason it doesn't seem as dark as the shortest day in the UK
OOOO I hadn't realised that!!!! For some reason it doesn't seem as dark as the shortest day in the UK
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Is there anything OZ V's UK that has not been measured
What next body parts
IQ's would be very interesting
Bank balances, at say retirement.
Average net worth.
Moles hang on I think we did that already
Size of your bathtub, thats new.
One fact I found fascinating was that Poms actually "do it" more than Aussies, Belgians won but they were probably bored, fascinating fact was in the OZ Sunday Mail just before I departed.
Just helping with some fresh ideas
What next body parts
IQ's would be very interesting
Bank balances, at say retirement.
Average net worth.
Moles hang on I think we did that already
Size of your bathtub, thats new.
One fact I found fascinating was that Poms actually "do it" more than Aussies, Belgians won but they were probably bored, fascinating fact was in the OZ Sunday Mail just before I departed.
Just helping with some fresh ideas
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Originally posted by ABCDiamond
Anyone know the sunset and sunrise times for the UK on the shortest day ?
Anyone know the sunset and sunrise times for the UK on the shortest day ?
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Originally posted by ABCDiamond
Anyone know the sunset and sunrise times for the UK on the shortest day ?
Anyone know the sunset and sunrise times for the UK on the shortest day ?
By the time you get as far north as Aberdeen, though, the sun rises at 08:45 or thereabouts and sets at 15:25 or thereabouts.
There's a website that calculates these things, provided you know the latitude etc of the place you are checking for: http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/
As for Reykjavik - yes, only three hours' between sunset and sunrise on the longest day but, in fact, it never gets dark in the middle of summer at that high latitude since the sun doesn't dip far enough below the horizon for darkness to fall. Of course, they pay for this in the winter!
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The historic "accident" is that the June 21 solstice occurs nearly at the same time as aphelion, July 4, when the earth is most distant to the sun.
Conversely, the December 21 solstice occurs at nearly the same time as perihelion, January 4, when the earth is closest to the sun.
If the two were reversed, only global warming would prevent London from being scraped off EurAsia by an ice sheet.
(In the diagram, north pole is "up")
The Analemma (equation of solar to siderial [star] time):
This diagram is a bit easier to read:
Conversely, the December 21 solstice occurs at nearly the same time as perihelion, January 4, when the earth is closest to the sun.
If the two were reversed, only global warming would prevent London from being scraped off EurAsia by an ice sheet.
(In the diagram, north pole is "up")
The Analemma (equation of solar to siderial [star] time):
This diagram is a bit easier to read:
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eerrrmm, cheers for that Megs
Melbourne got dark at 5.30 this evening, heres to 5.32 tomorrow
Melbourne got dark at 5.30 this evening, heres to 5.32 tomorrow
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Originally posted by dotty
Is there anything OZ V's UK that has not been measured
What next body parts
IQ's would be very interesting
Bank balances, at say retirement.
Average net worth.
Moles hang on I think we did that already
Size of your bathtub, thats new.
One fact I found fascinating was that Poms actually "do it" more than Aussies, Belgians won but they were probably bored, fascinating fact was in the OZ Sunday Mail just before I departed.
Just helping with some fresh ideas
Is there anything OZ V's UK that has not been measured
What next body parts
IQ's would be very interesting
Bank balances, at say retirement.
Average net worth.
Moles hang on I think we did that already
Size of your bathtub, thats new.
One fact I found fascinating was that Poms actually "do it" more than Aussies, Belgians won but they were probably bored, fascinating fact was in the OZ Sunday Mail just before I departed.
Just helping with some fresh ideas
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Originally posted by Megalania
What about vacuousness of your average ex-ex-pat?
What about vacuousness of your average ex-ex-pat?
I think Bill Bryson recently published a book along the lines of "A Short History of Nearly Everything".
Your book could be along similar lines, perhaps "A Short Explanation of Absolutely Everything" by Megalania.....
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and if it will make any of you aussies feel better, it was 14 degC in scunthorpe (uk) yesterday. It was nearly winter woolie weather!!! *shivers*