shipping to oz,insrance etc etc
Aug 21st 2012, 11:38 am
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shipping to oz,insrance etc etc
Ok there has been a million questions asked about shipping goods,container etc to oz,im not ready for this yet but it will be something soon i will have to look into.
Am i right in saying get quotes from most of them and haggle or is there another way to do this?
I read that some of you guys take insurance out from another company rather than the shippers,is this wise?
Would they not care so much with your stuff knowing its not insured by them?
When then give you a quote,is it go by the size of container or the work they would have to pack and wrap up for going,do they look and see at the amount of stuff and price it that way,so say i had loads of little things but took up a lot of room this might be more expensive than say more bulky items.
Or do they look at the bulky items and say there is a lot of work in moving all that.
I just wondered how they do there quotes.
Also is it recommended they take all the items from one place or can they take from another place also,as i have stuff in storage as well as my house i would be taking with me.
I have many items still flat packed from when i purchased,thought why not keep them until im over there,i take i am better to just leave them that way as less room it takes up then they are built.
Would they want to unpack and repack these items that are already flat packed.
I have many items i not used still new in boxes,will they unpack them and save on space or just pack them that way,a lot of stuff i have is of stuff i purchased over the years and gifts from wedding etc etc.
Many are over 12 months old,some i have recipts for some i dont,will customs want to charge me for these new items i have,im sure i will add more questions to this thread as time goes on
Am i right in saying get quotes from most of them and haggle or is there another way to do this?
I read that some of you guys take insurance out from another company rather than the shippers,is this wise?
Would they not care so much with your stuff knowing its not insured by them?
When then give you a quote,is it go by the size of container or the work they would have to pack and wrap up for going,do they look and see at the amount of stuff and price it that way,so say i had loads of little things but took up a lot of room this might be more expensive than say more bulky items.
Or do they look at the bulky items and say there is a lot of work in moving all that.
I just wondered how they do there quotes.
Also is it recommended they take all the items from one place or can they take from another place also,as i have stuff in storage as well as my house i would be taking with me.
I have many items still flat packed from when i purchased,thought why not keep them until im over there,i take i am better to just leave them that way as less room it takes up then they are built.
Would they want to unpack and repack these items that are already flat packed.
I have many items i not used still new in boxes,will they unpack them and save on space or just pack them that way,a lot of stuff i have is of stuff i purchased over the years and gifts from wedding etc etc.
Many are over 12 months old,some i have recipts for some i dont,will customs want to charge me for these new items i have,im sure i will add more questions to this thread as time goes on
Aug 21st 2012, 12:34 pm
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Joined: Jun 2007
Location: Sussex, England
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Re: shipping to oz,insrance etc etc
Ok there has been a million questions asked about shipping goods,container etc to oz,im not ready for this yet but it will be something soon i will have to look into.
Am i right in saying get quotes from most of them and haggle or is there another way to do this?
Get at least 3 (or more if you want to!) quotes from FIDI FAIM accredited movers. This will allow you to make a decent comparison on price and volume and to identify if anyone is considerably out what the reasons might be.
Make sure all your quotes are like for like on service and inclusions/exclusions before you let the decision come down to cost.
I read that some of you guys take insurance out from another company rather than the shippers,is this wise? Would they not care so much with your stuff knowing its not insured by them?
You can get insurance from either, just make sure the coverage is the same including any exclusions and excesses. I would like to think a decent, ethical mover will take the same amount of care whether they insure it or not! FIDI FAIM agents for example are audited and must meet certain levels of complaints/claims to achieve certification.
When then give you a quote,is it go by the size of container or the work they would have to pack and wrap up for going,do they look and see at the amount of stuff and price it that way,so say i had loads of little things but took up a lot of room this might be more expensive than say more bulky items.
Or do they look at the bulky items and say there is a lot of work in moving all that.
I just wondered how they do there quotes.
Quotes are based on a few factors. Total volume is one of them, this determines the cost of freight i.e. the space you need in a container to ship.
The type of goods will also play a part as this will determine the amount of time needed to pack and load and the amount of crew members they will need to do this.
The cost will also include the access to your property at origin (i.e. how close a truck can park, which floor you are on, any difficult access issues) and access (if you know) at destination. It will also include the distance between your origin and destination properties and the port of exit and entry to allow for transport.
Finally the cost will include any of your moving preferences so if you want a special item crated for extra protection, if you want a quicker method of transportation (i.e. exclusive load vs. shared container) or if you have specific requirements for a weekend collection for example.
Also is it recommended they take all the items from one place or can they take from another place also,as i have stuff in storage as well as my house i would be taking with me.
The mover will be able to add a second collection although be aware that this will probably involve additional charges. Depending on if they are loading the shipping container at your home or at their depot they may do this in advance of your main collection and bring the items to your home on loading day. Check with your mover how they would plan to do this.
I have many items still flat packed from when i purchased,thought why not keep them until im over there,i take i am better to just leave them that way as less room it takes up then they are built. Would they want to unpack and repack these items that are already flat packed.
I have many items i not used still new in boxes,will they unpack them and save on space or just pack them that way,a lot of stuff i have is of stuff i purchased over the years and gifts from wedding etc etc.
Each mover might handle this differently, but in general Flat pack furniture would be better left that way as most inst designed for transportation and this would potentially increase the risk of damage. The mover will assess if the packaging your flat pack items and your un-used still boxed items to see if it will be sufficient for shipping when they do your move consultation and will re-pack anything that they are concerned about.
Many are over 12 months old,some i have recipts for some i dont,will customs want to charge me for these new items i have,im sure i will add more questions to this thread as time goes on
The FIDI customs regulations state:
"Duty free entry provided removal goods consist of household and personal effects which have been owned and used for 12 months or more preceding owner’s departure for Australia"
and with regard to items that don't fit the above criteria - "Items must be declared if not owned and used for 12 months. by importer. Owner may be required to produce original purchase receipts or other evidence of purchase price."
Check out the fact sheet http://www.customs.gov.au/webdata/re...tionalMail.pdf for more details on the customs process.
Am i right in saying get quotes from most of them and haggle or is there another way to do this?
Get at least 3 (or more if you want to!) quotes from FIDI FAIM accredited movers. This will allow you to make a decent comparison on price and volume and to identify if anyone is considerably out what the reasons might be.
Make sure all your quotes are like for like on service and inclusions/exclusions before you let the decision come down to cost.
I read that some of you guys take insurance out from another company rather than the shippers,is this wise? Would they not care so much with your stuff knowing its not insured by them?
You can get insurance from either, just make sure the coverage is the same including any exclusions and excesses. I would like to think a decent, ethical mover will take the same amount of care whether they insure it or not! FIDI FAIM agents for example are audited and must meet certain levels of complaints/claims to achieve certification.
When then give you a quote,is it go by the size of container or the work they would have to pack and wrap up for going,do they look and see at the amount of stuff and price it that way,so say i had loads of little things but took up a lot of room this might be more expensive than say more bulky items.
Or do they look at the bulky items and say there is a lot of work in moving all that.
I just wondered how they do there quotes.
Quotes are based on a few factors. Total volume is one of them, this determines the cost of freight i.e. the space you need in a container to ship.
The type of goods will also play a part as this will determine the amount of time needed to pack and load and the amount of crew members they will need to do this.
The cost will also include the access to your property at origin (i.e. how close a truck can park, which floor you are on, any difficult access issues) and access (if you know) at destination. It will also include the distance between your origin and destination properties and the port of exit and entry to allow for transport.
Finally the cost will include any of your moving preferences so if you want a special item crated for extra protection, if you want a quicker method of transportation (i.e. exclusive load vs. shared container) or if you have specific requirements for a weekend collection for example.
Also is it recommended they take all the items from one place or can they take from another place also,as i have stuff in storage as well as my house i would be taking with me.
The mover will be able to add a second collection although be aware that this will probably involve additional charges. Depending on if they are loading the shipping container at your home or at their depot they may do this in advance of your main collection and bring the items to your home on loading day. Check with your mover how they would plan to do this.
I have many items still flat packed from when i purchased,thought why not keep them until im over there,i take i am better to just leave them that way as less room it takes up then they are built. Would they want to unpack and repack these items that are already flat packed.
I have many items i not used still new in boxes,will they unpack them and save on space or just pack them that way,a lot of stuff i have is of stuff i purchased over the years and gifts from wedding etc etc.
Each mover might handle this differently, but in general Flat pack furniture would be better left that way as most inst designed for transportation and this would potentially increase the risk of damage. The mover will assess if the packaging your flat pack items and your un-used still boxed items to see if it will be sufficient for shipping when they do your move consultation and will re-pack anything that they are concerned about.
Many are over 12 months old,some i have recipts for some i dont,will customs want to charge me for these new items i have,im sure i will add more questions to this thread as time goes on
The FIDI customs regulations state:
"Duty free entry provided removal goods consist of household and personal effects which have been owned and used for 12 months or more preceding owner’s departure for Australia"
and with regard to items that don't fit the above criteria - "Items must be declared if not owned and used for 12 months. by importer. Owner may be required to produce original purchase receipts or other evidence of purchase price."
Check out the fact sheet http://www.customs.gov.au/webdata/re...tionalMail.pdf for more details on the customs process.
Aug 22nd 2012, 12:19 pm
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Re: shipping to oz,insrance etc etc
If you insure with the removal company it is very expensive, try Letton Percival very competitive and a hell of a lot cheaper than the removal companies.
Aug 23rd 2012, 12:07 am
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Joined: Apr 2005
Location: perth W.A.
Posts: 180
Re: shipping to oz,insrance etc etc
Ok there has been a million questions asked about shipping goods,container etc to oz,im not ready for this yet but it will be something soon i will have to look into.
Am i right in saying get quotes from most of them and haggle or is there another way to do this?
I read that some of you guys take insurance out from another company rather than the shippers,is this wise?
Would they not care so much with your stuff knowing its not insured by them?
When then give you a quote,is it go by the size of container or the work they would have to pack and wrap up for going,do they look and see at the amount of stuff and price it that way,so say i had loads of little things but took up a lot of room this might be more expensive than say more bulky items.
Or do they look at the bulky items and say there is a lot of work in moving all that.
I just wondered how they do there quotes.
Also is it recommended they take all the items from one place or can they take from another place also,as i have stuff in storage as well as my house i would be taking with me.
I have many items still flat packed from when i purchased,thought why not keep them until im over there,i take i am better to just leave them that way as less room it takes up then they are built.
Would they want to unpack and repack these items that are already flat packed.
I have many items i not used still new in boxes,will they unpack them and save on space or just pack them that way,a lot of stuff i have is of stuff i purchased over the years and gifts from wedding etc etc.
Many are over 12 months old,some i have recipts for some i dont,will customs want to charge me for these new items i have,im sure i will add more questions to this thread as time goes on
Am i right in saying get quotes from most of them and haggle or is there another way to do this?
I read that some of you guys take insurance out from another company rather than the shippers,is this wise?
Would they not care so much with your stuff knowing its not insured by them?
When then give you a quote,is it go by the size of container or the work they would have to pack and wrap up for going,do they look and see at the amount of stuff and price it that way,so say i had loads of little things but took up a lot of room this might be more expensive than say more bulky items.
Or do they look at the bulky items and say there is a lot of work in moving all that.
I just wondered how they do there quotes.
Also is it recommended they take all the items from one place or can they take from another place also,as i have stuff in storage as well as my house i would be taking with me.
I have many items still flat packed from when i purchased,thought why not keep them until im over there,i take i am better to just leave them that way as less room it takes up then they are built.
Would they want to unpack and repack these items that are already flat packed.
I have many items i not used still new in boxes,will they unpack them and save on space or just pack them that way,a lot of stuff i have is of stuff i purchased over the years and gifts from wedding etc etc.
Many are over 12 months old,some i have recipts for some i dont,will customs want to charge me for these new items i have,im sure i will add more questions to this thread as time goes on
For what its worth here is my exp. We had four quotes..Anglo pacific,John mason,bonners, and another I cant remember. The prices were similar to be fair we had a 40ft container and took the lot! We were advised by others from expats to take it all and we did. We did ship products too without any problems.
I am a business person and in a solvent position and decided NOT to insure with anyone! Lol! I am not suggesting anyone else do it but it was what I decided. Just like all insurance companies pets,etc,etc they are all in business to make money and as far as I was concerned if they were prepared to take the risk for £1,000 so was I. The way I saw it unless I had more than £1,000 or breakage or theft I was evens or quids in.
Now in the event of total loss of the container falling off or the ship sinking you are screwed! BUT How many containers that sale across the world are lost? Or ships that sink? It has happened but unlikely thats why the insurers take the risk and thats why I did.
Anyway in our case no breakage loss or theft.
As for choosing the company thats a hard call! It really depends on the packers that you get. Luck really! We used John Mason and I have to say they met our expectations 100% As did the other end in Oz But we may have been fortunate as the guys were 1st class.
I would say be proactive make lots of tea have a laugh and get stuck in with them. Pack special items yourself if competent and they will just load it.
One thing which is very important is t clean and clean again especially anything wich has been exposed to mud! The shippers will advise on what you can and cant take.
In usual circumstances only a few of your boxes will be opened and inspected at random.
Hope this helps good luck!
Last edited by jan; Aug 23rd 2012 at 12:08 am. Reason: spelling is terrible!
