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Old May 7th 2006, 3:47 pm
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looks like i could have a dissapointed OH on my hands here. well i will explore all possibilities before breaking the news!
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hi, i have a few bikes but realise its not worth taking them over as im as well starting again, (ktm625 supermoto lightweight, fazer600 and a few others tucked away somewhere haha) i also have a montesa trials bike, i wondered if it was worth taking that as i dont have to worry about registering it for the road etc, my plan was to clean it (partially strip) throw away the tyres and buy new when i get over there, does anyone know if this is feasable or should i just sell with the others?
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Originally Posted by helen/andy
it is bloody painfull ive had my bike 5 years so it should be easy but firstly i need to find out if it meets australian compliance,ie there safety standards but can i buggery get any of the official government sites to tell me how to do it and times tickin by ,weve sold our house and are headin to sunshine coast in june bloody bikeless by the looks of things.
Hello from someone who's been there/done that with the bike import saga.. and now lives on the Sunshine Coast.....what more could you want?

Bringing a bike over is easy...but you need to have owned and used it for one year...no way round this bit....no legal way anyway , but if you haven't bought it yet and the person you buy the bike from puts the wrong date, by mistake, on the logbook date of sale/transfer section it will sail through Swanea's character recognition system without a hiccup...

As long as the bike is a model recognised over here ( or is more than 15 years old) it's a piece of cake...I brought my Buell and a 30 year old Lambretta ( mis-spent youth etc etc)...and if you have a fairly well known model it'll have been sold out here too, so it's no Problems...Aussie Compliance means a bike sold out here, more or less...they may want headlamps wired to be permanently on and a km/h set of dials but it's no big worry....

Here's the deal....
Round 1....apply on-line for import permission...if you don't do this you will end up in the poo....once you get it, with the photocopy of paperwork to confirm..drain the fuel, disconnect the battery,Clean it well....steam clean it and polish the hell out of it..pack it into a good wooden container and surround it with quilts, cuddly toys, pillows, bedding ( "it can all be washed but it's going in the same box so where's the drama love ?") anyway...use new and treated timber, not old crap lying around somewhere...

When you get here the Customs and Quarantine boys will look at it, they'll probably want to have it cleaned again...jobs for the boys... $100.00 from you...then you pay a little import duty, not much and you're off for round 2.

Round 2...Registration...Once you've cleared customs you need to send the import permission form off to Victoria giving your address in Australia ....they wil then send you an original of the import permission...it's a four part form for each bike..you send one part to the vehicle plate makers in Victoria and they send you a trendy sticker for your frame..then you take the bike, on a trailer, to a local Registration office....they'll look at your sticker, look at your import approval ( again) and stamp the form...then you go for a MoT, any bike shop will do it but they will find something wrong, guaranteed, just have it Mot'd in the Uk for an idea of any drama's to come at this end..then you go back to the Registration office with all the paperwork again( don't forget I.D, Address confirmation, permission to garage if you're renting, blah blah blah) and it's time to pay the Rego and off you go...

Simple enough ? Here's the up-side...Bikes are more expensive here in Queensland...Old 80's and 90's bikes are still good enough for people to pay silly money, mileage is not concidered an issue ( Triumph Speed Triple ? How about 87,000 km on a 1997...yours for 8,000 Dollars...1990 Kawasaki ZZR11, 74,000km? $9,000 to you Sir..Dear God ! ) and number of previous owners is a pointless question....the attitude is more "if it's a good one, it's a good one"...and quite right they are too...but if you have a reasonable bike that you're attached to, or even a Buell, bring it....I sold my 99 Speed Triple for 2,600 quid in England and it took me three months to find one the same...for $9,300 ! Not Good......Fireblades are cheaper though, if that's your cup of tea.

Down-side? Time consuming...it's usually miles to go see a "local" bike for sale, shops are incredibly poor at sales and service attitude ( you think it's bad enough in the UK ?...wait and see) and there will always be some drama that is totally unecessary at the Registration office...

BUT....Right now , as we slide into Winter on The Coast, I am not covering my bike up for 5 months to avoid salt or ice, I am not thinking about trying to defeat nature with heated grips and 6 layers of clothes, and I am certainly not worrying about wasted road tax and insurance for a bike that sits bolted to the floor hiding from thieves....It's actually the best time of year for slipping on the Leathers and sliding out the side door for a couple of hours around the Glasshouse Mountains....you're going to love it!!

Remember to bring all Insurance history for reasonable quotes and if you get stuck with anything at that end, or this, bung me a reply for what it's worth..

Oh, and get on with that paperwork by e-mail, they take a few weeks to get the permission to you..

See you in the Sun !
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Round 2...Registration...Once you've cleared customs you need to send the import permission form off to Victoria giving your address in Australia ....they wil then send you an original of the import permission...it's a four part form for each bike..you send one part to the vehicle plate makers in Victoria and they send you a trendy sticker for your frame..then you take the bike, on a trailer, to a local Registration office....they'll look at your sticker, look at your import approval ( again) and stamp the form...then you go for a MoT, any bike shop will do it but they will find something wrong, guaranteed, just have it Mot'd in the Uk for an idea of any drama's to come at this end..then you go back to the Registration office with all the paperwork again( don't forget I.D, Address confirmation, permission to garage if you're renting, blah blah blah) and it's time to pay the Rego and off you go...

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Hi,

Thanks for that - very interesting.

Our 4 bikes are currently sat in Brissie docks, having been valued - just waiting for the bill from Customs for the GST

Am a bit puzzled about your paragraph 2 - we thought the next step was to get Compliance on the bikes and have got a guy lined up to do that for us (at a cost of $800!) Are you saying that any bike shop can do this?

Why do you have to send stuff off to Victoria when we're in QLD? Haven't heard anything about this before - we already have the original import approval from Canberra. Sorry if I'm being a bit thick but perhaps you could explain this bit in words of one syllable to me

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Round 2...Registration...Once you've cleared customs you need to send the import permission form off to Victoria giving your address in Australia ....they wil then send you an original of the import permission...it's a four part form for each bike..you send one part to the vehicle plate makers in Victoria and they send you a trendy sticker for your frame..then you take the bike, on a trailer, to a local Registration office....they'll look at your sticker, look at your import approval ( again) and stamp the form...then you go for a MoT, any bike shop will do it but they will find something wrong, guaranteed, just have it Mot'd in the Uk for an idea of any drama's to come at this end..then you go back to the Registration office with all the paperwork again( don't forget I.D, Address confirmation, permission to garage if you're renting, blah blah blah) and it's time to pay the Rego and off you go...

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Hi,

Thanks for that - very interesting.

Our 4 bikes are currently sat in Brissie docks, having been valued - just waiting for the bill from Customs for the GST

Am a bit puzzled about your paragraph 2 - we thought the next step was to get Compliance on the bikes and have got a guy lined up to do that for us (at a cost of $800!) Are you saying that any bike shop can do this?

Why do you have to send stuff off to Victoria when we're in QLD? Haven't heard anything about this before - we already have the original import approval from Canberra. Sorry if I'm being a bit thick but perhaps you could explain this bit in words of one syllable to me

Thanks
All registration for imports need an import plate first...you get the plate from Victoria..once you have advised Dotars of the address in Aus they send you the originals of the black & white import permission wich you seem to already have..You take the top copy to the local Transport office and they check ViN and Frame numbers match the import permission,be sure to get them stamped there and then, then you send one of the 4 parts to Victoria ( a private company working for the Aussie Government) and they send you the import plate...it cost $35.00 or so per bike...then you stick the thing on the headstock and all you need now is a Roadworthy certificate, then you can go back to the local Transport office and get Rego. Then you just need petrol and a manic grin....try Shannons for insurance and keep an eye out for the 4x4 snorkel mounted mobile cameras!

What exactly is the guy you have lined up for $800 going to do ? Look at each bike and say "yep, that's a CBR Honda/R1 Yamaha/GSX Suzuki" etc ? Any bike shop will do this as part of the Roadworthy test....

The main thing to remember is everybody tells a different story here....
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All registration for imports need an import plate first...you get the plate from Victoria..once you have advised Dotars of the address in Aus they send you the originals of the black & white import permission wich you seem to already have..You take the top copy to the local Transport office and they check ViN and Frame numbers match the import permission,be sure to get them stamped there and then, then you send one of the 4 parts to Victoria ( a private company working for the Aussie Government) and they send you the import plate...it cost $35.00 or so per bike...then you stick the thing on the headstock and all you need now is a Roadworthy certificate, then you can go back to the local Transport office and get Rego. Then you just need petrol and a manic grin....try Shannons for insurance and keep an eye out for the 4x4 snorkel mounted mobile cameras!

What exactly is the guy you have lined up for $800 going to do ? Look at each bike and say "yep, that's a CBR Honda/R1 Yamaha/GSX Suzuki" etc ? Any bike shop will do this as part of the Roadworthy test....

The main thing to remember is everybody tells a different story here....
Have just realised that we may be in a slightly different situation to you as all our bikes have been brought in on the basis that they are over 15 years old, not on the basis that they are "Personal Imports" so we don't need a Personal Import Plate - think this is where I was getting confused!

See the link below - we need a compliance plate LO1 or LO3 (whatever they are)
http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/f...c?OpenDocument

Talk about bl**dy complicated!
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Plus a visit to the VIU..which is pretty much mandatory these days, apparently.
This is a check to make sure the car/bike isn't stolen or has had the engine no. 'tinkered' with.

"Your vehicle is then ready to go to the RTA.
Once there, it should be noted that the RTA may require a Third Tier Inspection. This inspection is a random process which is usually
required for personal imports. As of the 30th of May 2005, Complete Car Care is unable to book the third tier inspection on your behalf.
Should you require this inspection at the RTA Visual Identification Inspection Unit (VIIU) an appointment will need to be made via the RTA at either the Penrith, Silverwater or Botany VIIU. The paperwork is then stamped at the VIIU. "

attached are a couple of DOCS from the guys who did the work 'post customs' here in Oz when I imported my car.
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hi
thanks for some great information. if we can bring it over on a personal import than we certainly will. will just check with our type of visa application if there is anyway it is allowed then on to some more paperwork!
once again thanks for your input.
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Have just realised that we may be in a slightly different situation to you as all our bikes have been brought in on the basis that they are over 15 years old, not on the basis that they are "Personal Imports" so we don't need a Personal Import Plate - think this is where I was getting confused!

See the link below - we need a compliance plate LO1 or LO3 (whatever they are)
http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/f...c?OpenDocument


In that case keep posting as you go on..I'd like to know what older bikes need because I brought the Lambretta too, but I've had to leave it for something to do once we've found a place to actually live...Just because the wife's pregnant she says we need to sort the house out before the garage...she's funny like that.

Good luck with the paperwork, however long it takes it will be worth it once you fire up and get lost.....



Talk about bl**dy complicated!
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hi, whats the deal with an off road (trials or race bike) as i dont plan on putting on the road, is it just as complicated?
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Hello from someone who's been there/done that with the bike import saga.. and now lives on the Sunshine Coast.....what more could you want?

Bringing a bike over is easy...but you need to have owned and used it for one year...no way round this bit....no legal way anyway , but if you haven't bought it yet and the person you buy the bike from puts the wrong date, by mistake, on the logbook date of sale/transfer section it will sail through Swanea's character recognition system without a hiccup...

As long as the bike is a model recognised over here ( or is more than 15 years old) it's a piece of cake...I brought my Buell and a 30 year old Lambretta ( mis-spent youth etc etc)...and if you have a fairly well known model it'll have been sold out here too, so it's no Problems...Aussie Compliance means a bike sold out here, more or less...they may want headlamps wired to be permanently on and a km/h set of dials but it's no big worry....

Here's the deal....
Round 1....apply on-line for import permission...if you don't do this you will end up in the poo....once you get it, with the photocopy of paperwork to confirm..drain the fuel, disconnect the battery,Clean it well....steam clean it and polish the hell out of it..pack it into a good wooden container and surround it with quilts, cuddly toys, pillows, bedding ( "it can all be washed but it's going in the same box so where's the drama love ?") anyway...use new and treated timber, not old crap lying around somewhere...

When you get here the Customs and Quarantine boys will look at it, they'll probably want to have it cleaned again...jobs for the boys... $100.00 from you...then you pay a little import duty, not much and you're off for round 2.

Round 2...Registration...Once you've cleared customs you need to send the import permission form off to Victoria giving your address in Australia ....they wil then send you an original of the import permission...it's a four part form for each bike..you send one part to the vehicle plate makers in Victoria and they send you a trendy sticker for your frame..then you take the bike, on a trailer, to a local Registration office....they'll look at your sticker, look at your import approval ( again) and stamp the form...then you go for a MoT, any bike shop will do it but they will find something wrong, guaranteed, just have it Mot'd in the Uk for an idea of any drama's to come at this end..then you go back to the Registration office with all the paperwork again( don't forget I.D, Address confirmation, permission to garage if you're renting, blah blah blah) and it's time to pay the Rego and off you go...

Simple enough ? Here's the up-side...Bikes are more expensive here in Queensland...Old 80's and 90's bikes are still good enough for people to pay silly money, mileage is not concidered an issue ( Triumph Speed Triple ? How about 87,000 km on a 1997...yours for 8,000 Dollars...1990 Kawasaki ZZR11, 74,000km? $9,000 to you Sir..Dear God ! ) and number of previous owners is a pointless question....the attitude is more "if it's a good one, it's a good one"...and quite right they are too...but if you have a reasonable bike that you're attached to, or even a Buell, bring it....I sold my 99 Speed Triple for 2,600 quid in England and it took me three months to find one the same...for $9,300 ! Not Good......Fireblades are cheaper though, if that's your cup of tea.

Down-side? Time consuming...it's usually miles to go see a "local" bike for sale, shops are incredibly poor at sales and service attitude ( you think it's bad enough in the UK ?...wait and see) and there will always be some drama that is totally unecessary at the Registration office...

BUT....Right now , as we slide into Winter on The Coast, I am not covering my bike up for 5 months to avoid salt or ice, I am not thinking about trying to defeat nature with heated grips and 6 layers of clothes, and I am certainly not worrying about wasted road tax and insurance for a bike that sits bolted to the floor hiding from thieves....It's actually the best time of year for slipping on the Leathers and sliding out the side door for a couple of hours around the Glasshouse Mountains....you're going to love it!!

Remember to bring all Insurance history for reasonable quotes and if you get stuck with anything at that end, or this, bung me a reply for what it's worth..

Oh, and get on with that paperwork by e-mail, they take a few weeks to get the permission to you..

See you in the Sun !
Thanks for all that info Bloo... We're planning on bringing my Z650 hard tail and Chopper Boy's ZX10 chop... should make for an interesting time!!!!!

See you on the road - hopefully!
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All registration for imports need an import plate first...you get the plate from Victoria..once you have advised Dotars of the address in Aus they send you the originals of the black & white import permission wich you seem to already have..You take the top copy to the local Transport office and they check ViN and Frame numbers match the import permission,be sure to get them stamped there and then, then you send one of the 4 parts to Victoria ( a private company working for the Aussie Government) and they send you the import plate...it cost $35.00 or so per bike...then you stick the thing on the headstock and all you need now is a Roadworthy certificate, then you can go back to the local Transport office and get Rego. Then you just need petrol and a manic grin....try Shannons for insurance and keep an eye out for the 4x4 snorkel mounted mobile cameras!

What exactly is the guy you have lined up for $800 going to do ? Look at each bike and say "yep, that's a CBR Honda/R1 Yamaha/GSX Suzuki" etc ? Any bike shop will do this as part of the Roadworthy test....

The main thing to remember is everybody tells a different story here....
Hi Bloo, I will be bringing my 05 ZX10R with me in about 6 months time but will still have 12 months finance left on it, I'm leaving money in uk account to cover payments but was wondering if this will affect the import process?
Also my 7 year old son races motocross, do you or any other posters know what the bike club scene is like in north nsw and south queensland, cheers Sim.
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Thanks for the advice, I hope to bring my beloved and much enhanced 2004 R1200GS with me (I'm the husband, Jan hasn't taken her bike test yet), it already has a daytime running headlight and dual mph/kph speedo plus good mirrors so I expect as a current worldwide model it should pass inspection no problem. All I need now is a set of knobbly tyres for the unmade roads and some auxiliary lights to illuminate the 'roos at night and I'll be sorted once I get that paperwork over and done with.

Would I be able to transport the bike within my sea container or do I need a dedicated wooden crate? If I need a crate I will try my local BMW dealer, they normally send them back to Germany on the delivery lorrys return journey but they may be able to 'lose' one if I ask nicely.
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Originally Posted by bloofox
Down-side? Time consuming...it's usually miles to go see a "local" bike for sale, shops are incredibly poor at sales and service attitude ( you think it's bad enough in the UK ?...wait and see) and there will always be some drama that is totally unecessary at the Registration office...

...and you need a trailer to move the bike around from office to office...if you don't have that you'll need to pay someone to do it...so it is maybe not as straightforward as bloofox makes out.

The logistics is a pain in the ar$e and maybe not what you need when settling into a new country.
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Originally Posted by bloofox

Hi Bloo, I will be bringing my 05 ZX10R with me in about 6 months time but will still have 12 months finance left on it, I'm leaving money in uk account to cover payments but was wondering if this will affect the import process?
Also my 7 year old son races motocross, do you or any other posters know what the bike club scene is like in north nsw and south queensland, cheers Sim.
I don't know if the finances affect the import charges, I doubt it though...as long as you're the owner on the logbook and you have had it in your name for a year it should be good....

Jap bikes are a little bit cheaper in Qld have a look at www.redbookasiapacific.com.au for prices, it's the Glass's guide over here and worth a little annoraking.......also try www.bikepoint.ninemsn.com.au for Australia wide retail and private sales...the ZX10R migh be worth leaving behind for replacement out here... (I know the addresses are supposed to light up after you type them so you may need to trawl a bit but you'll find them soon enough.....)

On the kids motorcross scene I can only tell you that on the southern end of the Gold Coast and up here at Coolum Beach on the Sunshine Coast there are some fantastic clubs...last week I went to watch the juniors State championship at Coolum, I havn't realy ever bothered with off road stuff myself but when it's on your doorstep et etc...your kid's gonna love it. When he see's the tracks laid out over here he'll be delighted, I was!...kids seem to start on pee-wee's at about 5...and they're flyin' by the time they're teens... it's a good family day out and the Girls rip just as hard as the boys....

I think you'll be impressed too....
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