Shame on you Australia
Oct 6th 2009, 11:48 am
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Shame on you Australia
On the same day a report appears in the press reporting that Australia ranks as second in the world for quality of life, a report from Save the Children shows Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander's are three times more likely to die before the age of five than non-indigenous infants.
How can Australia sustain such a digraceful disparity, and where is the expected uproar from such a report ?
Why does Australia appear to so easily accept these disgraceful facts ?
How do we as imigrants feel about the plight of these people, especially since it was the influx of the immigrant which systematically smashed a 60,000 year old culture into pieces, with a fair ammount of butchering, raping and genocide thrown in for good measure.
Here is the report in detail.
What can be done about it, but just as importantly, where is the voice of the Australian people on this subject ?
How can Australia sustain such a digraceful disparity, and where is the expected uproar from such a report ?
Why does Australia appear to so easily accept these disgraceful facts ?
How do we as imigrants feel about the plight of these people, especially since it was the influx of the immigrant which systematically smashed a 60,000 year old culture into pieces, with a fair ammount of butchering, raping and genocide thrown in for good measure.
Here is the report in detail.
What can be done about it, but just as importantly, where is the voice of the Australian people on this subject ?
Oct 6th 2009, 12:01 pm
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Re: Shame on you Australia
Does the report give a reason for the disparity?
If it's down to funding then shame on Australia.
If it's down to the cultural differences between aboriginal nations and the state then I'd be interested to hear your solution.
If it's down to funding then shame on Australia.
If it's down to the cultural differences between aboriginal nations and the state then I'd be interested to hear your solution.
Oct 6th 2009, 12:45 pm
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Re: Shame on you Australia
Implying most of us are ignorant of this and uncaring due to our nationality, and that you are here to educate us based on yours, might be taken as you indulging your own bias.
Oct 6th 2009, 12:47 pm
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Re: Shame on you Australia
Oct 6th 2009, 12:54 pm
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Re: Shame on you Australia
On the same day a report appears in the press reporting that Australia ranks as second in the world for quality of life, a report from Save the Children shows Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander's are three times more likely to die before the age of five than non-indigenous infants.
How can Australia sustain such a digraceful disparity
Personal responsibility begins at home, not in a government office.
and where is the expected uproar from such a report ?
What can be done about it
A rule of thumb in relation to most of the programs and policies that pose as progressive thinking in indigenous affairs, is that if we did the opposite we would have a chance of making progress. This is because the subservience of our intellectual culture to the cause of class prejudice and stratification is so profound and universal. What we believe is forward progress is in fact standing still or actually moving backwards.
It takes two to tango.
but just as importantly, where is the voice of the Australian people on this subject ?
I suggest you read this lecture by Noel Pearson.
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Oct 6th 2009, 3:58 pm
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Re: Shame on you Australia
Probably not helped much by most Australians crowded into capital cities and hugging coastline, while aboriginal communities are very isolated...ignored by media.....out of site and out of mind... unfortunately...
Oct 6th 2009, 4:42 pm
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Re: Shame on you Australia
Reconciliation is not helped by the perpetuation of damaging and unjustified stereotypes such as yours.
Oct 6th 2009, 6:53 pm
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Re: Shame on you Australia
On the same day a report appears in the press reporting that Australia ranks as second in the world for quality of life, a report from Save the Children shows Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander's are three times more likely to die before the age of five than non-indigenous infants.
How can Australia sustain such a digraceful disparity, and where is the expected uproar from such a report ?
Why does Australia appear to so easily accept these disgraceful facts ?
How do we as imigrants feel about the plight of these people, especially since it was the influx of the immigrant which systematically smashed a 60,000 year old culture into pieces, with a fair ammount of butchering, raping and genocide thrown in for good measure.
Here is the report in detail.
What can be done about it, but just as importantly, where is the voice of the Australian people on this subject ?
How can Australia sustain such a digraceful disparity, and where is the expected uproar from such a report ?
Why does Australia appear to so easily accept these disgraceful facts ?
How do we as imigrants feel about the plight of these people, especially since it was the influx of the immigrant which systematically smashed a 60,000 year old culture into pieces, with a fair ammount of butchering, raping and genocide thrown in for good measure.
Here is the report in detail.
What can be done about it, but just as importantly, where is the voice of the Australian people on this subject ?
Barney
Oct 6th 2009, 9:15 pm
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Re: Shame on you Australia
On the same day a report appears in the press reporting that Australia ranks as second in the world for quality of life, a report from Save the Children shows Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander's are three times more likely to die before the age of five than non-indigenous infants.
How can Australia sustain such a digraceful disparity, and where is the expected uproar from such a report ?
Why does Australia appear to so easily accept these disgraceful facts ?
How do we as imigrants feel about the plight of these people, especially since it was the influx of the immigrant which systematically smashed a 60,000 year old culture into pieces, with a fair ammount of butchering, raping and genocide thrown in for good measure.
What can be done about it, but just as importantly, where is the voice of the Australian people on this subject ?
How can Australia sustain such a digraceful disparity, and where is the expected uproar from such a report ?
Why does Australia appear to so easily accept these disgraceful facts ?
How do we as imigrants feel about the plight of these people, especially since it was the influx of the immigrant which systematically smashed a 60,000 year old culture into pieces, with a fair ammount of butchering, raping and genocide thrown in for good measure.
What can be done about it, but just as importantly, where is the voice of the Australian people on this subject ?
In the meantime standing on a soap box telling people they should be ashamed of themselves for something that has no course of resolution does seem more than a little pointless and comes across as a stereotypical reaction of the uninformed.
Oct 6th 2009, 9:17 pm
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Re: Shame on you Australia
But I don't think screeching "shame" does much to help.
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Oct 6th 2009, 9:23 pm
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Re: Shame on you Australia
Vash got the gist of what I was saying "Yes, it is tragic these vulnerable children continue to be so badly abused by their own community. How would you suggest we protect them? We can't remove them from their families (that would only create another "Stolen Generation"), so what's the solution?"
Would you like a hand back onto your horse? It looks a little high for you.
Oct 6th 2009, 9:32 pm
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Re: Shame on you Australia
On the same day a report appears in the press reporting that Australia ranks as second in the world for quality of life, a report from Save the Children shows Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander's are three times more likely to die before the age of five than non-indigenous infants.
How can Australia sustain such a digraceful disparity, and where is the expected uproar from such a report ?
Why does Australia appear to so easily accept these disgraceful facts ?
How do we as imigrants feel about the plight of these people, especially since it was the influx of the immigrant which systematically smashed a 60,000 year old culture into pieces, with a fair ammount of butchering, raping and genocide thrown in for good measure.
Here is the report in detail.
What can be done about it, but just as importantly, where is the voice of the Australian people on this subject ?
How can Australia sustain such a digraceful disparity, and where is the expected uproar from such a report ?
Why does Australia appear to so easily accept these disgraceful facts ?
How do we as imigrants feel about the plight of these people, especially since it was the influx of the immigrant which systematically smashed a 60,000 year old culture into pieces, with a fair ammount of butchering, raping and genocide thrown in for good measure.
Here is the report in detail.
What can be done about it, but just as importantly, where is the voice of the Australian people on this subject ?
Alcohol is the main casue of the problem ,should the governemnt make it illegal for Aboriginies to drink alcohol , but then thats racism
Oct 6th 2009, 11:29 pm
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Re: Shame on you Australia
Half of Manchester's children 'live in poverty'
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....n_poverty.html
Oct 7th 2009, 12:22 am
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Your comments, I regret, seem to demonstrate a deep lack of understanding on what is a complex issue. Certainly there is much to be done but what exactly SHOULD be done is a problem which has evaded community leaders and government for years. You should enlighten them, I'm sure they would be grateful
In the meantime standing on a soap box telling people they should be ashamed of themselves for something that has no course of resolution does seem more than a little pointless and comes across as a stereotypical reaction of the uninformed.
In the meantime standing on a soap box telling people they should be ashamed of themselves for something that has no course of resolution does seem more than a little pointless and comes across as a stereotypical reaction of the uninformed.
yep what he said.
Oct 7th 2009, 12:36 am
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Re: Shame on you Australia
If they choose to do things like sniff petrol and sit in the sun all day rather than go off and work like the rest of us have to then yes they are going to have a shorter life span.
I hate to generalise and thats what these studies do. Not all aboriginals are like this just the vast majority, there are some smarter ones that work and live very well as good upstanding citizens.
If I choose to do drugs and die younger would people say I was a sign of the death of imigrants? surely it wouldnt be anyones fault but my own...
