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Old Aug 2nd 2010, 5:40 am
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So Julia, the Welsh and the Gingers did not burn books. Glad we got that one sorted.
Originally Posted by Deancm_MKII
Because they burnt the books. If the Ginger or Welsh did it I would've mentioned them instead.
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Originally Posted by DeadVim
So, without getting too deep into it, what is the alternative to income tax?
A GST or user pays system.
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Originally Posted by IvanM
So Julia, the Welsh and the Gingers did not burn books. Glad we got that one sorted.
But Julia just wants to stop us reading digital media.
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Where does she say that? Where is that said even in the proposed filtering?
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But Julia just wants to stop us reading digital media.
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Originally Posted by Deancm_MKII
A GST or user pays system.
Can't say it's high on my list of election issues ... I have frighteningly little ability comprehend the big stuff ...

I see Abbott is helping the tourism industry today ... maybe he's staying out of the surf ...
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Don't go there. No photos please.
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maybe he's staying out of the surf ...
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Old Aug 2nd 2010, 5:49 am
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Originally Posted by Deancm_MKII
I'm not against foreign aid per se but foreign aid for birth control... There are better thing for money to be spent on.
Sometimes the best way to improve peoples living conditions is for them to have less children. Its also a womens health issue.

No. You are reading into it what you want to read, not what is actually there.
Well I'm reading what was written but Ok, lets put the Nazi's to one side and continue on.
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lets put the Nazi's to one side and continue on.
But they started it.
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Originally Posted by ex_exile
Sometimes the best way to improve peoples living conditions is for them to have less children. Its also a womens health issue.
Nobody is forcing them to have sex.
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Originally Posted by Deancm_MKII
Nobody is forcing them to have sex.
What the..
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Sadly that is one of the issues birth control will minimise the complications from and it is an issue. In Southern Africa I have read estimates one third of women have been raped. Whether the sex is voluntary or not the cost of healthcare and the extra population is something the nations struggle to afford. In the US "just say no" was promoted by the religious elements there. Studies found that those wearing chastitity rings had a higher rate of unwanted pregnancies as they were less likely to use contraception. Discounting human nature to make policy is like denying gravity when making an airplane.
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You mean like its suffering at the moment? Unemployment is down, it has been falling for a year.
Falling from what ? from 5.6% a year ago to 5.5% now. But if we go back to before the last Federal election... 4.2%

Unemployment rate - looking for full-time work ; Persons ;
5.5% April 2010
5.6% April 2009
4.2% April 2008
4.2% April 2007

It actually isn't too bad though, considering the GFC.
 
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In feb I would have missed out on the stats. I was looking for work but I did not claim benefits. It is an old one defining unemployment stats.
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Falling from what ? from 5.6% a year ago to 5.5% now. But if we go back to before the last Federal election... 4.2%

Unemployment rate - looking for full-time work ; Persons ;
5.5% April 2010
5.6% April 2009
4.2% April 2008
4.2% April 2007

It actually isn't too bad though, considering the GFC.
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Old Aug 2nd 2010, 6:18 am
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Originally Posted by IvanM
In feb I would have missed out on the stats. I was looking for work but I did not claim benefits. It is an old one defining unemployment stats.
The unemployment stats, in most countries, have no relation to the figures for those claiming benefits.

Most countries work on the International Labour Organisation definition.
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Australia: Unemployed persons are defined by the ABS as those civilians aged 15 years and over who, during a period of one week (called the reference week), were not employed, but were available to start work in the reference week and had actively looked for work in the previous four weeks. It should be noted that ABS definitions of employment and unemployment conform with International Labour Organisation (ILO) standards. http://aph.gov.au/library/pubs/rn/2006-07/07rn18.htm

UK Official estimates of unemployment are produced by the Office of National Statistics (ONS) based upon the ILO (International Labour Organization) definition. Unemployment is a count of jobless people who want to work, are available to work, and are actively seeking employment. The ILO definition is used internationally, so comparisons between countries can be made, and it also allows for consistent comparisons over time. http://www.statistics.gov.uk/CCI/nugget.asp?ID=165
 
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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
Falling from what ? from 5.6% a year ago to 5.5% now. But if we go back to before the last Federal election... 4.2%

Unemployment rate - looking for full-time work ; Persons ;
5.5% April 2010
5.6% April 2009
4.2% April 2008
4.2% April 2007

It actually isn't too bad though, considering the GFC.
The June 2010 figure was 5.1%, down from 5.8 in June 2009.

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
The unemployment stats, in most countries, have no relation to the figures for those claiming benefits.
This is true
Most countries work on the International Labour Organisation definition.
Not sure that this is true as the ILO's definition makes unemployment numbers higher

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