The Sensible Australian Election Thread
Sep 8th 2010, 11:36 pm
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Sep 8th 2010, 11:39 pm
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Re: The Sensible Australian Election Thread
Sep 8th 2010, 11:56 pm
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Sep 9th 2010, 12:01 am
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Re: The Sensible Australian Election Thread
Using your figures then...
New England;
1st pref
Windsor 61%
Nationals 25%
Labour 8%
and the vote goes to LABOR with 8%, even though 92% wanted an Independent or a Lib/Nat.
Lynne;
1st pref
Oakshott 47%
Nationals 35%
Labor 13%
and the vote goes to LABOR with 13%, even though 87% wanted an Independent or a Lib/Nat.
You say "Some are unhappy some are happy, the unhappy ones are making noises is this unexpected?"
Of course this is to be expected, especially as there are more unhappy ones than there are happy ones in those electorates.
Your answer however seemed to indicate that the argument is about the vote going to an Independent.
That is not the case. The main argument is that they should have been Independent wins. NOT Labor wins.
New England;
1st pref
Windsor 61%
Nationals 25%
Labour 8%
and the vote goes to LABOR with 8%, even though 92% wanted an Independent or a Lib/Nat.
Lynne;
1st pref
Oakshott 47%
Nationals 35%
Labor 13%
and the vote goes to LABOR with 13%, even though 87% wanted an Independent or a Lib/Nat.
You say "Some are unhappy some are happy, the unhappy ones are making noises is this unexpected?"
Of course this is to be expected, especially as there are more unhappy ones than there are happy ones in those electorates.
Your answer however seemed to indicate that the argument is about the vote going to an Independent.
That is not the case. The main argument is that they should have been Independent wins. NOT Labor wins.
Had they supported Abbott they would still be going against the wishes of the majority of their electorate.
In New England, in your words:
The vote would have gone to COALITION even though 75% wanted Labor or Independent
Would you still be bleating on about the failiure of democracy then?
Sep 9th 2010, 12:04 am
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Re: The Sensible Australian Election Thread
Let me repeat again THEY DID NOT VOTE FOR A COALITION LOCAL MP, look at the statistics!
You keep throwing up spurious arguments to try and make this result seem invalid, I answer your points so you move onto something else, no harm in that this is a discussuion after all, but you keep on trying to imply that this is an invalid result, it is not.
You seem to be one of the people covered by the article I posted earlier it seems that the only result that you are willing to accept is a Liberal coalition victory.
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Sep 9th 2010, 12:06 am
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Re: The Sensible Australian Election Thread
The two sources are very different, yours; www.pollytics.com is a politically motivated website, whereas mine is showing a few individual opinions from the electorates in question, where 87% or 92% preferred someone other than Labor.
I take that you are aware that newspoll did a survey a week after the election that showed that the public favoured a Labor coalition BUT DID NOT PUBLISH IT FOR A WEEK and continued running op-eds saying that the people prefered a Coalition coalition.
Yet again, you know this how?
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Sep 9th 2010, 12:17 am
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Re: The Sensible Australian Election Thread
47% voted for Oakshot but you think the second preference votes should take precedent?
Why are you unable to accept the result?
Sep 9th 2010, 12:23 am
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Sep 9th 2010, 12:58 am
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Re: The Sensible Australian Election Thread
I wonder if I'd be as hacked off as coalition supporters seem to be if it had gone the other way, I'd like to think not.
