Self-employed people - do you need ABN written on headed paper?
May 23rd 2005, 2:05 pm
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Self-employed people - do you need ABN written on headed paper?
Just doing Mr Jones business stationery and wondering if I need to put his ABN or TFN on his headed paper (and the invoice letterhead) etc?
Oh and on things like business cards.
At the moment all I have included is the Registration Number.
Thanks all
Oh and on things like business cards.
At the moment all I have included is the Registration Number.
Thanks all
May 23rd 2005, 10:17 pm
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Re: Self-employed people - do you need ABN written on headed paper?
Originally Posted by The Jones Family
Just doing Mr Jones business stationery and wondering if I need to put his ABN or TFN on his headed paper (and the invoice letterhead) etc?
Oh and on things like business cards.
At the moment all I have included is the Registration Number.
Thanks all
Oh and on things like business cards.
At the moment all I have included is the Registration Number.
Thanks all
My business card also has my ABN and Licence number displayed.
May 23rd 2005, 10:20 pm
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Re: Self-employed people - do you need ABN written on headed paper?
Originally Posted by cresta57
I have to supply my ABN on all invoices as well as my licence number other wise contractors can hold onto a % of any payments due. I don't have any fancy stationary though as I use the invoicing system the ATO send you on CD Rom. It's called e-record.
My business card also has my ABN and Licence number displayed.
My business card also has my ABN and Licence number displayed.
Yup thats right, but do not stick your TAX FILE NUMBER on it.
ABCDEFJ usually has all the right links etc but the ATO website has on it what is legally required.
May 23rd 2005, 11:09 pm
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Re: Self-employed people - do you need ABN written on headed paper?
Originally Posted by The Jones Family
Just doing Mr Jones business stationery and wondering if I need to put his ABN or TFN on his headed paper (and the invoice letterhead) etc?
Oh and on things like business cards.
At the moment all I have included is the Registration Number.
Thanks all
Oh and on things like business cards.
At the moment all I have included is the Registration Number.
Thanks all
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May 23rd 2005, 11:54 pm
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Re: Self-employed people - do you need ABN written on headed paper?
Originally Posted by Siren & Brian
Yup thats right, but do not stick your TAX FILE NUMBER on it.
ABCDEFJ usually has all the right links etc but the ATO website has on it what is legally required.
ABCDEFJ usually has all the right links etc but the ATO website has on it what is legally required.
I have some details on this webpage that may help, and shows other good business links.
One thing that is specified is: "Your business name must be printed or written exactly as it is registered - on every business letter, invoice, receipt, or other document used by your business. "
Out of 10 business cards that I have just looked at, only one of them shows the ABN number.
ABN or A.B.N. are abbreviations for Australian Business Number
ACN or A.C.N. are abbreviations for Australian Company Number
Your ABN is based on your ACN but it has 2 additional leading digits and becomes an 11 digit number. The ABN will eventually replace the Australian Company Number (ACN) and the Australian Registered Body Number (ARBN).
"If your company has an Australian Business Number (ABN), you may use the ABN with your company's name in place of the ACN on company documents and negotiable instruments, provided that:
your ABN includes your nine digit ACN; and
the quotation of the ABN is effected in the same manner in which quotation of the ACN would normally occur."
your ABN includes your nine digit ACN; and
the quotation of the ABN is effected in the same manner in which quotation of the ACN would normally occur."
Where the ACN is NOT required
The items on which the ACN is not required include:
The items on which the ACN is not required include:
- packaging and labelling, including envelopes and transport documents;
- advertisements which do not make a specific offer which is capable of being accepted (such as advertisements which only promote the company and its goods or services in general);
- credit cards and credit card vouchers;
- machine-generated receipts, including cash-register receipts;
- business cards and 'with compliments' slips; and
- items which are not documents (eg, vehicles, television advertisements)
May 24th 2005, 2:27 am
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Re: Self-employed people - do you need ABN written on headed paper?
Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
I have some details on this webpage that may help, and shows other good business links.
One thing that is specified is: "Your business name must be printed or written exactly as it is registered - on every business letter, invoice, receipt, or other document used by your business. "
Out of 10 business cards that I have just looked at, only one of them shows the ABN number.
ABN or A.B.N. are abbreviations for Australian Business Number
ACN or A.C.N. are abbreviations for Australian Company Number
Your ABN is based on your ACN but it has 2 additional leading digits and becomes an 11 digit number. The ABN will eventually replace the Australian Company Number (ACN) and the Australian Registered Body Number (ARBN).
May 25th 2005, 1:33 pm
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Re: Self-employed people - do you need ABN written on headed paper?
Originally Posted by cresta57
I have to supply my ABN on all invoices as well as my licence number other wise contractors can hold onto a % of any payments due. I don't have any fancy stationary though as I use the invoicing system the ATO send you on CD Rom. It's called e-record.
My business card also has my ABN and Licence number displayed.
My business card also has my ABN and Licence number displayed.
Cheers
May 25th 2005, 9:48 pm
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Re: Self-employed people - do you need ABN written on headed paper?
Originally Posted by jumbo
Is there a standard format for invoices?
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Take a look here at the program it's downloadable and can be used in any country by changing the country setting on the keyboard.
May 26th 2005, 7:51 am
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Re: Self-employed people - do you need ABN written on headed paper?
Originally Posted by cresta57
They must show ABN's, specific job address GST amount etc.
Take a look here at the program it's downloadable and can be used in any country by changing the country setting on the keyboard.
Take a look here at the program it's downloadable and can be used in any country by changing the country setting on the keyboard.
and invoices" or am I missing the "program"
Thanks
May 26th 2005, 8:17 am
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Re: Self-employed people - do you need ABN written on headed paper?
Originally Posted by jumbo
Do you mean the pdf called "How to set out tax invoices
and invoices" or am I missing the "program"
Thanks
and invoices" or am I missing the "program"
Thanks
That said if there's a PDF it should give you all the info you need.
May 26th 2005, 9:11 am
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Re: Self-employed people - do you need ABN written on headed paper?
Originally Posted by cresta57
Your missing the link to the actual program looks like it's been moved. If you do a search on the ATO website for e-record it should give you a download site, it's free. http://www.ato.gov.au/businesses/con...tent/23231.htm
That said if there's a PDF it should give you all the info you need.
That said if there's a PDF it should give you all the info you need.
They may need to go to this link
http://www.ato.gov.au/businesses/con....htm&page=6&H6
However:
A new version of e-Record, version 5.0, is due for release at the end of June.
The new version of e-Record will be available to download from the website in mid June and be available on CD in early July.
Hmmm... so it will be released at the END of june, but will be available from MID JUNE
