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Ginny Oct 7th 2002 10:09 pm

Security Bond on Campervans question
 
Hi there,

Thanks to all who reply to my campervan question earlier on. I've been looking at all the sites you gave me and I am constently noticing an excess bond of around $5000 - $8000 payable at the time of booking and or removing the vehicle. Although this is returnable it seems a hell of a lot of money. Has anyone had any experience of this? Would renting a car be cheaper? Please help!

Regards Ginny

Sibbick1 Oct 8th 2002 10:34 am

Re: Security Bond on Campervans question
 
I have had no experience with the rental bonds but you can buy a decent car
for $8,000 and sell it at the end of your time in Australia.

"Ginny" wrote in message
news:436263.1034028548@britishexpats-
.com
...
    > Hi there,
    > Thanks to all who reply to my campervan question earlier on. I've been
    > looking at all the sites you gave me and I am constently noticing an
    > excess bond of around $5000 - $8000 payable at the time of booking and
    > or removing the vehicle. Although this is returnable it seems a hell of
    > a lot of money. Has anyone had any experience of this? Would renting a
    > car be cheaper? Please help!
    > Regards Ginny
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Swagmanneke Oct 8th 2002 1:26 pm

Re: Security Bond on Campervans question
 
Hi
wen we rented a campervan we paid only 500 or 800Aud ( not sure but not
more)bond by a signed credit card paper. this is wen you take the full cover
with a own risk off about 500Aud. if you don't take the all risk you have to
pay that big amount.


--
Swagmanneke( walter caremans)
[email protected]
"sibbick1" schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]
ustar.net.au
...
    > I have had no experience with the rental bonds but you can buy a decent
car
    > for $8,000 and sell it at the end of your time in Australia.
    > "Ginny" wrote in message
    > news:436263.1034028548@britishexpa-
    > ts.com
    ...
    > >
    > > Hi there,
    > >
    > > Thanks to all who reply to my campervan question earlier on. I've been
    > > looking at all the sites you gave me and I am constently noticing an
    > > excess bond of around $5000 - $8000 payable at the time of booking and
    > > or removing the vehicle. Although this is returnable it seems a hell of
    > > a lot of money. Has anyone had any experience of this? Would renting a
    > > car be cheaper? Please help!
    > >
    > > Regards Ginny
    > >
    > > --
    > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
    > >

Raffi Balmanoukian Oct 8th 2002 1:35 pm

Re: Security Bond on Campervans question
 
in article [email protected], swagmanneke at
[email protected] wrote on 10/8/02 10:26 AM:

    > Hi
    > wen we rented a campervan we paid only 500 or 800Aud ( not sure but not
    > more)bond by a signed credit card paper. this is wen you take the full cover
    > with a own risk off about 500Aud. if you don't take the all risk you have to
    > pay that big amount.

Also, check with your credit card co. as to whether it has insurance that
will cover your excess if you waive it. In the case of campers or long term
rentals, most will not - but there may be a premium card or two out there
that does. Most "gold" cards and above have coverages like this for
ordinary short-term hire cars that are used according to the rental
agreement, charged to the card, and for which the renter has waived the
excess coverage.

Des Oct 8th 2002 3:10 pm

Re: Security Bond on Campervans question
 
My card would not cover the basic insurance coverage for a mpotorhome in
Australia.. it would cover a standard car rental in Canada.... in my
experience you probably won't find one that will cover a motorhome in
Australia, but that is just my opinion

My extra cover is $250 only and it is not paid out just held in the case of
damages.

I would not rent a $100,000+ vehicle for a month or longer and not have the
"full cover" liability exposure is not worth it to me.

"Raffi Balmanoukian"
wrote in message
news:B9C8-
68D6.D100%[email protected] atico.ca
...
    > in article [email protected], swagmanneke at
    > [email protected] wrote on 10/8/02 10:26 AM:
    > > Hi
    > > wen we rented a campervan we paid only 500 or 800Aud ( not sure but not
    > > more)bond by a signed credit card paper. this is wen you take the full
cover
    > > with a own risk off about 500Aud. if you don't take the all risk you
have to
    > > pay that big amount.
    > >
    > >
    > Also, check with your credit card co. as to whether it has insurance that
    > will cover your excess if you waive it. In the case of campers or long
term
    > rentals, most will not - but there may be a premium card or two out there
    > that does. Most "gold" cards and above have coverages like this for
    > ordinary short-term hire cars that are used according to the rental
    > agreement, charged to the card, and for which the renter has waived the
    > excess coverage.

Raffi Balmanoukian Oct 8th 2002 3:25 pm

Re: Security Bond on Campervans question
 
in article [email protected], Des at
[email protected] wrote on 10/8/02 12:10 PM:

    > My card would not cover the basic insurance coverage for a mpotorhome in
    > Australia.. it would cover a standard car rental in Canada.... in my
    > experience you probably won't find one that will cover a motorhome in
    > Australia, but that is just my opinion
    > My extra cover is $250 only and it is not paid out just held in the case of
    > damages.
    > I would not rent a $100,000+ vehicle for a month or longer and not have the
    > "full cover" liability exposure is not worth it to me.

Also check the fine print - I'm not familiar with the company you're using
but some won't allow their precious vehicles to go off the bitumen. Others
just say "not off public roads except for driveways" which is a very
different thing. It's a rediculous rule in Australia where even good rural
roads are quite often dirt, or an annoying single lane of bitumen with a
half lane of dirt on either side (so the road trains basically run you off
the road).

Des Oct 8th 2002 4:46 pm

Re: Security Bond on Campervans question
 
fer sure that you have to drive on paved roads only


"Raffi Balmanoukian"
wrote in message
news:B9C8-
82DB.D111%[email protected] atico.ca
...
    > in article [email protected], Des at
    > [email protected] wrote on 10/8/02 12:10 PM:
    > > My card would not cover the basic insurance coverage for a mpotorhome in
    > > Australia.. it would cover a standard car rental in Canada.... in my
    > > experience you probably won't find one that will cover a motorhome in
    > > Australia, but that is just my opinion
    > >
    > > My extra cover is $250 only and it is not paid out just held in the case
of
    > > damages.
    > >
    > > I would not rent a $100,000+ vehicle for a month or longer and not have
the
    > > "full cover" liability exposure is not worth it to me.
    > >
    > Also check the fine print - I'm not familiar with the company you're using
    > but some won't allow their precious vehicles to go off the bitumen.
Others
    > just say "not off public roads except for driveways" which is a very
    > different thing. It's a rediculous rule in Australia where even good
rural
    > roads are quite often dirt, or an annoying single lane of bitumen with a
    > half lane of dirt on either side (so the road trains basically run you off
    > the road).

Swagmanneke Oct 8th 2002 6:44 pm

Re: Security Bond on Campervans question
 
Hi
it was not my credit card company who covered the campervan. i paid the
bond
whit the card and that was between 500 and 800aud.

and no you can't use a campervan on dirt roads ( only 4 wheel drive )
i asked about the road around Mt Buffalo(Vic) the map said unpaved and i was
allowed to drive, but in the mean time the road was sealed.
greetings from belgium
only10 weeks and down to OZ.
--
Swagmanneke( walter caremans)
[email protected]
"Raffi Balmanoukian"
schreef in bericht
news:B9C8-
68D6.D100%[email protected] atico.ca
...
    > in article [email protected], swagmanneke at
    > [email protected] wrote on 10/8/02 10:26 AM:
    > > Hi
    > > wen we rented a campervan we paid only 500 or 800Aud ( not sure but not
    > > more)bond by a signed credit card paper. this is wen you take the full
cover
    > > with a own risk off about 500Aud. if you don't take the all risk you
have to
    > > pay that big amount.
    > >
    > >
    > Also, check with your credit card co. as to whether it has insurance that
    > will cover your excess if you waive it. In the case of campers or long
term
    > rentals, most will not - but there may be a premium card or two out there
    > that does. Most "gold" cards and above have coverages like this for
    > ordinary short-term hire cars that are used according to the rental
    > agreement, charged to the card, and for which the renter has waived the
    > excess coverage.

Des Oct 8th 2002 7:21 pm

Re: Security Bond on Campervans question
 
ONLY 6 WEEKS LEFT FOR ME.........we are really getting excited


"swagmanneke" wrote in message
news:FIFo9.152489$8o4.222-
[email protected]
...
    > Hi
    > it was not my credit card company who covered the campervan. i paid the
    > bond
    > whit the card and that was between 500 and 800aud.
    > and no you can't use a campervan on dirt roads ( only 4 wheel drive )
    > i asked about the road around Mt Buffalo(Vic) the map said unpaved and i
was
    > allowed to drive, but in the mean time the road was sealed.
    > greetings from belgium
    > only10 weeks and down to OZ.
    > --
    > Swagmanneke( walter caremans)
    > [email protected]
    > "Raffi Balmanoukian"
    > schreef in bericht
    > news:B9-
    > C868D6.D100%[email protected] mpatico.ca
    ...
    > > in article [email protected], swagmanneke
at
    > > [email protected] wrote on 10/8/02 10:26 AM:
    > >
    > > > Hi
    > > > wen we rented a campervan we paid only 500 or 800Aud ( not sure but
not
    > > > more)bond by a signed credit card paper. this is wen you take the full
    > cover
    > > > with a own risk off about 500Aud. if you don't take the all risk you
    > have to
    > > > pay that big amount.
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > > Also, check with your credit card co. as to whether it has insurance
that
    > > will cover your excess if you waive it. In the case of campers or long
    > term
    > > rentals, most will not - but there may be a premium card or two out
there
    > > that does. Most "gold" cards and above have coverages like this for
    > > ordinary short-term hire cars that are used according to the rental
    > > agreement, charged to the card, and for which the renter has waived the
    > > excess coverage.
    > >

Raffi Balmanoukian Oct 8th 2002 8:27 pm

Re: Security Bond on Campervans question
 
in article [email protected], Des at
[email protected] wrote on 10/8/02 4:21 PM:

    > ONLY 6 WEEKS LEFT FOR ME.........we are really getting excited

December.....living in rabid fear of hook turns!

Ginny Oct 8th 2002 8:59 pm

Re: Security Bond on Campervans question
 

Originally posted by Des:
ONLY 6 WEEKS LEFT FOR ME.........we are really getting excited


"swagmanneke" wrote in message
news:FIFo9.152489$8o4.222-
[email protected]...
    > Hi
    > it was not my credit card company who covered the campervan. i paid the
    > bond
    > whit the card and that was between 500 and 800aud.
    > and no you can't use a campervan on dirt roads ( only 4 wheel drive )
    > i asked about the road around Mt Buffalo(Vic) the map said unpaved and i
was
    > allowed to drive, but in the mean time the road was sealed.
    > greetings from belgium
    > only10 weeks and down to OZ.
    > --
    > Swagmanneke( walter caremans)
    > [email protected]
    > "Raffi Balmanoukian"
    > schreef in bericht
    > news:B9-
    > C868D6.D100%[email protected] mpatico.ca
    ...
    > > in article [email protected], swagmanneke
at
    > > [email protected] wrote on 10/8/02 10:26 AM:
    > >
    > > > Hi
    > > > wen we rented a campervan we paid only 500 or 800Aud ( not sure but
not
    > > > more)bond by a signed credit card paper. this is wen you take the full
    > cover
    > > > with a own risk off about 500Aud. if you don't take the all risk you
    > have to
    > > > pay that big amount.
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > > Also, check with your credit card co. as to whether it has insurance
that
    > > will cover your excess if you waive it. In the case of campers or long
    > term
    > > rentals, most will not - but there may be a premium card or two out
there
    > > that does. Most "gold" cards and above have coverages like this for
    > > ordinary short-term hire cars that are used according to the rental
    > > agreement, charged to the card, and for which the renter has waived the
    > > excess coverage.
    > >

Hi Des (And everyone else who has replied)

Who did you book with again? That $250 bond seems a better option to me. In the small print that I've read it seems that in order to get that you need to pay about an extra $40 on top on the rental price. Not sure if I am right but I'm still looking.

Thanks again

Ginny

p.s. any more info ie who people have booked with please let me know.

Des Oct 8th 2002 9:38 pm

Re: Security Bond on Campervans question
 
8-}.............not many turns going from Alice to Adelaide!



"Raffi Balmanoukian"
wrote in message
news:B9C8-
C979.D194%[email protected] atico.ca
...
    > in article [email protected], Des at
    > [email protected] wrote on 10/8/02 4:21 PM:
    > > ONLY 6 WEEKS LEFT FOR ME.........we are really getting excited
    > >
    > December.....living in rabid fear of hook turns!

Des Oct 8th 2002 10:26 pm

Re: Security Bond on Campervans question
 
I booked with Brisbane...contact Terry

[email protected]


"Ginny" wrote in message
news:437408.1034110795@britishexpats-
.com
...
    > Originally posted by Des:
    > > ONLY 6 WEEKS LEFT FOR ME.........we are really getting excited
    > >
    > >
    > > "swagmanneke" wrote in message
    > > news:FIFo9.152489$8o4-
    > > [email protected]
    "]news:FIFo9.15248--
    > >

    > > 9$8o4.222-
    > > [email protected][/url]...
    > > > Hi
    > > > it was not my credit card company who covered the campervan. i
    > > > paid the
    > > > bond
    > > > whit the card and that was between 500 and 800aud.
    > > > and no you can't use a campervan on dirt roads ( only 4 wheel
    > > > drive )
    > > > i asked about the road around Mt Buffalo(Vic) the map said
    > > > unpaved and i
    > > was
    > > > allowed to drive, but in the mean time the road was sealed.
    > > > greetings from belgium
    > > > only10 weeks and down to OZ.
    > > > --
    > > > Swagmanneke( walter caremans)
    > > > [email protected]
    > > > "Raffi Balmanoukian"
    > > > schreef in bericht
    > > > ne-
    > > > ws:B9C868D6.D100%walkabout@TAKEOUTTHETRASHTOREPLY. ns.sympatico.ca-

    > > > "]news:B9-
    > > > C868D6.D100%[email protected] mpatico.ca[/url].-
    > > > ..
    > > > > in article [email protected],
    > > > > swagmanneke
    > > at
    > > > > [email protected] wrote on 10/8/02 10:26 AM:
    > > > >
    > > > > > Hi
    > > > > > wen we rented a campervan we paid only 500 or 800Aud ( not sure
    > > > > > but
    > > not
    > > > > > more)bond by a signed credit card paper. this is wen you take
    > > > > > the full
    > > > cover
    > > > > > with a own risk off about 500Aud. if you don't take the all risk
    > > > > > you
    > > > have to
    > > > > > pay that big amount.
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > Also, check with your credit card co. as to whether it has
    > > > > insurance
    > > that
    > > > > will cover your excess if you waive it. In the case of campers or
    > > > > long
    > > > term
    > > > > rentals, most will not - but there may be a premium card or
    > > > > two out
    > > there
    > > > > that does. Most "gold" cards and above have coverages like this
    > > > > for
    > > > > ordinary short-term hire cars that are used according to the
    > > > > rental
    > > > > agreement, charged to the card, and for which the renter has
    > > > > waived the
    > > > > excess coverage.
    > > > >
    > >
    > Hi Des (And everyone else who has replied)
    > Who did you book with again? That $250 bond seems a better option to
    > me. In the small print that I've read it seems that in order to get
    > that you need to pay about an extra $40 on top on the rental price. Not
    > sure if I am right but I'm still looking.
    > Thanks again
    > Ginny
    > p.s. any more info ie who people have booked with please let me know.
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Swagmanneke Oct 9th 2002 1:05 pm

Re: Security Bond on Campervans question
 
We booked NQ rentals we got an older (10years ) campervan.
the price full cover was at that time i believe 17aud a day.
for this year we have a 4wd toyota Rav4 and the full cover is also around
17 -20aud a day.

--
Swagmanneke( walter caremans)
[email protected]
"Des" schreef in bericht
news:6YIo9.16689$0i4.178-
[email protected]
...
    > I booked with Brisbane...contact Terry
    > [email protected]
    > "Ginny" wrote in message
    > news:437408.1034110795@britishexpa-
    > ts.com
    ...
    > >
    > > Originally posted by Des:
    > > > ONLY 6 WEEKS LEFT FOR ME.........we are really getting excited
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "swagmanneke" wrote in message
    > > > news:FIFo9.152489$8-
    > > > [email protected]
    "]news:FIFo9.15-
    > > > 248-

    > > > 9$8o4.222-
    > > > [email protected][/url]...
    > > > > Hi
    > > > > it was not my credit card company who covered the campervan. i
    > > > > paid the
    > > > > bond
    > > > > whit the card and that was between 500 and 800aud.
    > > > > and no you can't use a campervan on dirt roads ( only 4 wheel
    > > > > drive )
    > > > > i asked about the road around Mt Buffalo(Vic) the map said
    > > > > unpaved and i
    > > > was
    > > > > allowed to drive, but in the mean time the road was sealed.
    > > > > greetings from belgium
    > > > > only10 weeks and down to OZ.
    > > > > --
    > > > > Swagmanneke( walter caremans)
    > > > > [email protected]
    > > > > "Raffi Balmanoukian"
    > > > > schreef in bericht
    > > > > -
    > > > > news:B9C868D6.D100%walkabout@TAKEOUTTHETRASHTOREPL Y.ns.sympatico.ca-

    > > > > "]news:B9-
    > > > > C868D6.D100%[email protected] mpatico.ca[/url].-
    > > > > ..
    > > > > > in article [email protected],
    > > > > > swagmanneke
    > > > at
    > > > > > [email protected] wrote on 10/8/02 10:26 AM:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > > Hi
    > > > > > > wen we rented a campervan we paid only 500 or 800Aud ( not sure
    > > > > > > but
    > > > not
    > > > > > > more)bond by a signed credit card paper. this is wen you take
    > > > > > > the full
    > > > > cover
    > > > > > > with a own risk off about 500Aud. if you don't take the all risk
    > > > > > > you
    > > > > have to
    > > > > > > pay that big amount.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Also, check with your credit card co. as to whether it has
    > > > > > insurance
    > > > that
    > > > > > will cover your excess if you waive it. In the case of campers or
    > > > > > long
    > > > > term
    > > > > > rentals, most will not - but there may be a premium card or
    > > > > > two out
    > > > there
    > > > > > that does. Most "gold" cards and above have coverages like this
    > > > > > for
    > > > > > ordinary short-term hire cars that are used according to the
    > > > > > rental
    > > > > > agreement, charged to the card, and for which the renter has
    > > > > > waived the
    > > > > > excess coverage.
    > > > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > > Hi Des (And everyone else who has replied)
    > >
    > > Who did you book with again? That $250 bond seems a better option to
    > > me. In the small print that I've read it seems that in order to get
    > > that you need to pay about an extra $40 on top on the rental price. Not
    > > sure if I am right but I'm still looking.
    > >
    > > Thanks again
    > >
    > > Ginny
    > >
    > > p.s. any more info ie who people have booked with please let me know.
    > >
    > > --
    > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
    > >

Ginny Oct 9th 2002 3:13 pm

Re: Security Bond on Campervans question
 

Originally posted by Swagmanneke:
We booked NQ rentals we got an older (10years ) campervan.
the price full cover was at that time i believe 17aud a day.
for this year we have a 4wd toyota Rav4 and the full cover is also around
17 -20aud a day.

--
Swagmanneke( walter caremans)
[email protected]
"Des" schreef in bericht
news:6YIo9.16689$0i4.178-
[email protected]...
    > I booked with Brisbane...contact Terry
    > [email protected]
    > "Ginny" wrote in message
    > news:437408.1034110795@britishexpa-
    > ts.com
    ...
    > >
    > > Originally posted by Des:
    > > > ONLY 6 WEEKS LEFT FOR ME.........we are really getting excited
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "swagmanneke" wrote in message
    > > > news:FIFo9.152489$8-
    > > >
[email protected]    "]news:FIFo9.15-
    > > > 248-

    > > > 9$8o4.222-
    > > > [email protected][/url]...
    > > > > Hi
    > > > > it was not my credit card company who covered the campervan. i
    > > > > paid the
    > > > > bond
    > > > > whit the card and that was between 500 and 800aud.
    > > > > and no you can't use a campervan on dirt roads ( only 4 wheel
    > > > > drive )
    > > > > i asked about the road around Mt Buffalo(Vic) the map said
    > > > > unpaved and i
    > > > was
    > > > > allowed to drive, but in the mean time the road was sealed.
    > > > > greetings from belgium
    > > > > only10 weeks and down to OZ.
    > > > > --
    > > > > Swagmanneke( walter caremans)
    > > > > [email protected]
    > > > > "Raffi Balmanoukian"
    > > > > schreef in bericht
    > > > > -
    > > > > news:B9C868D6.D100%walkabout@TAKEOUTTHETRASHTOREPL Y.ns.sympatico.ca-

    > > > > "]news:B9-
    > > > > C868D6.D100%[email protected] mpatico.ca[/url].-
    > > > > ..
    > > > > > in article [email protected],
    > > > > > swagmanneke
    > > > at
    > > > > > [email protected] wrote on 10/8/02 10:26 AM:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > > Hi
    > > > > > > wen we rented a campervan we paid only 500 or 800Aud ( not sure
    > > > > > > but
    > > > not
    > > > > > > more)bond by a signed credit card paper. this is wen you take
    > > > > > > the full
    > > > > cover
    > > > > > > with a own risk off about 500Aud. if you don't take the all risk
    > > > > > > you
    > > > > have to
    > > > > > > pay that big amount.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Also, check with your credit card co. as to whether it has
    > > > > > insurance
    > > > that
    > > > > > will cover your excess if you waive it. In the case of campers or
    > > > > > long
    > > > > term
    > > > > > rentals, most will not - but there may be a premium card or
    > > > > > two out
    > > > there
    > > > > > that does. Most "gold" cards and above have coverages like this
    > > > > > for
    > > > > > ordinary short-term hire cars that are used according to the
    > > > > > rental
    > > > > > agreement, charged to the card, and for which the renter has
    > > > > > waived the
    > > > > > excess coverage.
    > > > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > > Hi Des (And everyone else who has replied)
    > >
    > > Who did you book with again? That $250 bond seems a better option to
    > > me. In the small print that I've read it seems that in order to get
    > > that you need to pay about an extra $40 on top on the rental price. Not
    > > sure if I am right but I'm still looking.
    > >
    > > Thanks again
    > >
    > > Ginny
    > >
    > > p.s. any more info ie who people have booked with please let me know.
    > >
    > > --
    > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
    > >

Hi again,

Sorry to be a nuisance but do you have a link for NQ rentals. That sounds a really good deal.

Thanks again


Ginny


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