jugsy

I'm with Grayling on this one. I think the constant putting down of the U.K. is a bit naive. Yes of course there is plenty of crime in Britain just as there is in any country.The same applies to illegal immigrants.
I agree same s**t, different bucket.
I think if you are emigrating it is better to go for the adventure and experience not because you want to escape crime and illegal immigrants.

martin and sharon

No I haven`t. I am going out there blind so to speak. I take all serious comments on board and appreciate unbiased opinions. But if some people say it is so bad....then why are they still there?

P.S nice to speak to you!

Sharon

martin and sharon

I didn`t realise that Australia was an under-developed country and that people still use buckets to sh!t in.

jugsy

It's not bad. it's just same s**t, different bucket

samnrob2

I know what grayling's response to this is going to be

Good luck sharon with the move...you'll only know whether you can live here until you move here. Each person on here has different needs and experiences to you which makes this site somewhat pointless sometimes.

Apart from the banter which is quite good!

R

Grayling

Can't really be bothered

G

martin and sharon

My feeling is that if we can survive here, then why not somewhere better. What do you do for a living?

Sharon

martin and sharon

What you mean is that you have already got sh!t up to your elbow with all the stirring you do!

suzimc

I have no more problems with the UK than i have with any other country I have lived in, nowhere is perfect. I read the SMH online every day to make sure I arrive prepared, I am not expecting perfection.

But nobody moving to Oz is doing so because they think quality of life will be worse there...so it's natural for people to be talking about it in a positive light. I would imagine that most people do their research before making a big decision like to move across the world, but they will still be excited about their decision and looking forward to their adventure, hence the comments people make. I can't imagine feeling 100% sure about doing anything, and therefore there is an inherant human need to justify and back up with opinions/facts.

Sorry to rant! Just think it's probably better for people to have a chance express their opinions here, whatever they are.

Grayling

OK

You mentioned 'Yob Culture'

Here's a good example:

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117...6-1242,00.html

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martin and sharon

I do hope that`s not an invitation. :scared:

martin and sharon

Thanks for the example. Couldn`t help but notice that the article read that the crime would not be tolerated and that it carried a sentence. Over here they would have been told not to do it again and got a slap on the wrist (which they would probably sue for)!

Sharon

jugsy

I agree. Of course people want to be positive about the country they are going to. What I find a bit silly is people being negative about Britain and thinking that those problems won't be present in australia. Go for the pull factors not the push factors.

suzimc

Fair comment

This is a natural arena to air your thoughts and concerns though

arkon

I agree, The only reason I posted my 1st ever post on here was because people come on here whinging about all the bad things in Britain and then go on to list all the bad things they are escaping from in the UK, like these problems don’t exist here in Australia. Well they do all exist with varying levels, something’s are better and some are worse but all of the same problems exist with a few extra thrown in for good measure. The reason people like me post is that its very frustrating reading about all the UK badness that supposedly either doesn’t exist or is much less here. No one want to spoil anyone’s adventure and I certainly had my rose tints on before getting here and know exactly what its like now in both places.

When I was planning the adventure here I was very unrealistic in my set in the way thoughts as to what Australia was going to be like and it just made for a rougher landing when reality hit.

I’ll give you just one of my misconceptions I had before coming here:- Our dog absolutely hates fireworks and thunder storms and I knew Australia wasn’t mad on fireworks and the weather is supposedly so much better there would be less thunder storms. Well I was right about the fireworks but a million miles away on the storms. In the 11 months so far hardly a couple of weeks go by without massive thunder storms of a magnitude far greater and scarier for the dog than anything we had in the UK.

All I want to say is be realistic, don’t leave the UK for any one or many reasons because they will all exist here. Come here because there is something you desperately need and want from Australia that you can’t find either in the UK or Europe. Not because something stinks back home.