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Old Nov 26th 2005, 10:53 pm
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Isn't that a special offer though (i.e. up to 5pm on weekdays)? I think so. Pizza Hut does the same deal here up to 5pm. Plus Dominos pizzas aren't worth 5 bucks anyway.

Just some clarification...

Pizza lover.
Yes, they are normally $5.95.

A tip for buying Pizzas when you don't have a discount voucher. (It worked yesterday)...
Ask how much the Pizza is WITHOUT a voucher, they say $8.95, you say "Wow, That's high" They then give you a voucher, and say its $5.95 with that voucher

That's at Domino's. All vouchers are interchangeable at almost any of the major Pizza places. ie: You can use an Eagle Boys Pizza Voucher at Dominos and vice versa.
 
Old Nov 26th 2005, 11:24 pm
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the aussie superannuation system is a joke - they deduct it from your salary the fees are a joke the performance is mickey mouse because it is compulsary all the union bosses that introduced it have jumped out of the pocket of the government into managing directorships of an industry fund - so much for socialism the salaries are better so bye bye worker collective hello wall street. until recently you had no choices on funds take it mate you cannot leave it as it is compulsory and remember this is getting deducted from your salary - when the unions agreed to increase the basic from 7% to 8% all the ignorant aussies I worked with were wondering why their take home pay had dropped and did'nt understand.

we moved back to the uk because opportunities are so limited in oz. my aussie wife was a top PA in London for a PLC sales director but when she moved back to oz that obviously did'nt count because it was'nt local experience. She had to temp before taking a job at $28,000 which later increased to $33,000. We moved back to London and she is now earning GBP33K so her earnings just have no comparison to oz. Holiday is 6 days extra and her employer now contributes 12% of salary to a pension provided she contributes 6% which is on top of her salary not deducted like in oz.

The problem is the insular inward looking approach of the aussies they have no idea really about the global economy just look at how their major companies always come a cropper in overseas markets i.e. National Australia Bank the most recent example of a long and sorry list. Their attitude is all wrong - they actually believe their own bullshit but it all falls apart when faced with competition.

I earn about 30% more in UK now and my wife about 100% more but when you take pensions, bonus and holidays less cost of living i believe we are at least 65% ahead on income and plus we have all the advantages of living in the uk. australia is a good place but you don't go their to earn you go their to get skin cancer, drink fizzy lager in small glasses and swim with dolphins.

Great dolphins but there is a reason 10% of the population is working in London.
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Originally Posted by dugongs
the aussie superannuation system is a joke - they deduct it from your salary the fees are a joke the performance is mickey mouse because it is compulsary all the union bosses that introduced it have jumped out of the pocket of the government into managing directorships of an industry fund - so much for socialism the salaries are better so bye bye worker collective hello wall street. until recently you had no choices on funds take it mate you cannot leave it as it is compulsory and remember this is getting deducted from your salary - when the unions agreed to increase the basic from 7% to 8% all the ignorant aussies I worked with were wondering why their take home pay had dropped and did'nt understand.

we moved back to the uk because opportunities are so limited in oz. my aussie wife was a top PA in London for a PLC sales director but when she moved back to oz that obviously did'nt count because it was'nt local experience. She had to temp before taking a job at $28,000 which later increased to $33,000. We moved back to London and she is now earning GBP33K so her earnings just have no comparison to oz. Holiday is 6 days extra and her employer now contributes 12% of salary to a pension provided she contributes 6% which is on top of her salary not deducted like in oz.

The problem is the insular inward looking approach of the aussies they have no idea really about the global economy just look at how their major companies always come a cropper in overseas markets i.e. National Australia Bank the most recent example of a long and sorry list. Their attitude is all wrong - they actually believe their own bullshit but it all falls apart when faced with competition.

I earn about 30% more in UK now and my wife about 100% more but when you take pensions, bonus and holidays less cost of living i believe we are at least 65% ahead on income and plus we have all the advantages of living in the uk. australia is a good place but you don't go their to earn you go their to get skin cancer, drink fizzy lager in small glasses and swim with dolphins.

Great dolphins but there is a reason 10% of the population is working in London.

I've tried to cover some of the aspects of this thread, in the following. Post 17 onwards, describes how how Aussie born and raised daughter who found the job market so lucrative here, is find the going very tough in the UK, for the exact same reasons you mentione above.

What counts is how you position yourself in the market, and getting local knowledge..... see what happens when the boot is on the other foot.


http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...7&page=2&pp=15


I too, like Vash work at aussie post, I would have a hell of a task finding somewhere that pays as well for my skills and age in the UK. I got the job by being on a list that one of my mates gave his boss.
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Old Nov 27th 2005, 3:35 am
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Originally Posted by dugongs
the aussie superannuation system is a joke - they deduct it from your salary
The 9% Compulsory Superannuation is in ADDITION to your salary. It IS NOT DEDUCTED from salary.

I was here doing payroll, when they brought it in. I remember it from the employers point of view. Having to add on the extra wage cost. I also remember the person that lost their job to pay for everyones elses super.

The only time it may be deducted is if YOU want to pay EXTRA and you ask them to deduct it.

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the performance is mickey mouse
Give the viewers some quotes to back that up. (I agree it was low a few years ago, but markets have changed).
My wifes super seems to have done pretty well. Much better than we could have invested it ourselves. But then, some funds do better than others.

My wife also earns more than double she got in the UK. Everyone is different, and you get some people who earn more, and some who earn less. A BE poll was done on that some time last year, and the results should be looked at again by anyone interested.
 
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Originally Posted by dugongs
the aussie superannuation system is a joke - they deduct it from your salary the fees are a joke the performance is mickey mouse because it is compulsary all the union bosses that introduced it have jumped out of the pocket of the government into managing directorships of an industry fund - so much for socialism the salaries are better so bye bye worker collective hello wall street. until recently you had no choices on funds take it mate you cannot leave it as it is compulsory and remember this is getting deducted from your salary - when the unions agreed to increase the basic from 7% to 8% all the ignorant aussies I worked with were wondering why their take home pay had dropped and did'nt understand.

we moved back to the uk because opportunities are so limited in oz. my aussie wife was a top PA in London for a PLC sales director but when she moved back to oz that obviously did'nt count because it was'nt local experience. She had to temp before taking a job at $28,000 which later increased to $33,000. We moved back to London and she is now earning GBP33K so her earnings just have no comparison to oz. Holiday is 6 days extra and her employer now contributes 12% of salary to a pension provided she contributes 6% which is on top of her salary not deducted like in oz.

The problem is the insular inward looking approach of the aussies they have no idea really about the global economy just look at how their major companies always come a cropper in overseas markets i.e. National Australia Bank the most recent example of a long and sorry list. Their attitude is all wrong - they actually believe their own bullshit but it all falls apart when faced with competition.

I earn about 30% more in UK now and my wife about 100% more but when you take pensions, bonus and holidays less cost of living i believe we are at least 65% ahead on income and plus we have all the advantages of living in the uk. australia is a good place but you don't go their to earn you go their to get skin cancer, drink fizzy lager in small glasses and swim with dolphins.

Great dolphins but there is a reason 10% of the population is working in London.
Your wife earns 100pc more based on what? Your wife could not have been too good. I knew PAs in tiny companies earning 60k in Sydney and they were just glorified secretaries. Sounds like you had a bad time of it. I earn more here in Australia than I did in London like for like, and my cost of living is quite a bit lower. Your general tone smacks of a bit of bias there(!) Of course a lot of young Aussies like living and working in London, they get to earn huge deposits for their return to Australia to start a family. I did the same working in Europe - not London though. Its as much an FX thing as a salary thing; many Aussies are not working in the top jobs with the top salaries. The people in the highest brackets, will of course, do quite well.

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Old Nov 27th 2005, 8:24 am
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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
A BE poll was done on that some time last year, and the results should be looked at again by anyone interested.
This was the thread: http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=309102

also this thread is worth looking at http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=248662
It showed 20% of voters were NOT happy with their living standard here, but 80% were.

Interesting when about 20% of migrants end up returning to the UK, wonder if they are the same ones
 
Old Nov 27th 2005, 8:31 am
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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
This was the thread: http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=309102

also this thread is worth looking at http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=248662
It showed 20% of voters were NOT happy with their living standard here, but 80% were.

Interesting when about 20% of migrants end up returning to the UK, wonder if they are the same ones
Interesting reading my post in the first thread there - turned out to be spot on I would be voting in the 90-109% category now (my wife woud be in the 130%+ category).

Also interesting was the 4 voters in the second poll unhappy with $1250+ a week for the main wage. Shows how relative it all is anyway. We would be in the $751-1000 and happy category.

It's a fair assumption that the 20% unhappy with their lot would be the 20% that return, with exceptions of course.
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Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
I apologise for generalising.

It's just that I couldn't help but notice Britan's current pension crisis.

Not to mention the NHS crisis.

And the Railtrack/Network Rail crisis.

Never mind. I'm sure it'll all work out in the end.

Somehow.
Anyone know anything about the 'Medicare crisis' and 'superannuation crisis' stories that have been prevalent in the Aussie press in the last few years? never mind, I'm sure it'll all work out in the end
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Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
I must warn you, it was shift work!

But it was only 15 minutes' drive round the corner from my house and it did pay well. I resigned from it when I decided to come over here; my mates thought I was mad!

I realise now that I took it for granted; I guess that's what you tend to do when you live in the Lucky Country. In fact, having spent nearly two years in the UK, it strikes me that I took a lot of things for granted back home.

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Hi,

Salaries in Australia, are quite lower than what people earn in UK?Usually in UK people earn around GBP3500 per month(after taxes)
Thanks,

God I feel really poor £3500 a month after tax!!!!! I don't clear that before tax
But yeah Aus wages are lower, but money isn't everything, I just hope not too many believe all the hype and expect eternal sunshine, good times, cheap housing and high wages in Aus as it won't happen for the vast majority. I know my expectations, I don't aspire to have higher wages or a better car/house etc, but I'll be happy as no matter what I'll be where I've wanted to be for almost 20 years!!!
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I'm hoping this is about right. I currently earn £49k in IT in London (admittedly for an investment bank) and start my new job in Dec for a Sydney based investment bank but the salary is $73k. I'm hoping that this amount will be enough and will not be a shock for me.
Now that's interesting because I earn around 40K in IT in Manchester (admittedly I'm a little below market rates). But my job in Melbourne that I'm moving to is $105K. So that works out about 2.5 x the UK wage.
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Now that's interesting because I earn around 40K in IT in Manchester (admittedly I'm a little below market rates). But my job in Melbourne that I'm moving to is $105K. So that works out about 2.5 x the UK wage.

Well seeing how it's approx 2.5 $ to the £ then you'll be getting the same
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funnilly enough, i lose money by paying into an aussie super fund.

for example (made up figures for now, i can't remember) i put in $10,000 last year, and the balance at the end of the year was $9,000. doesn't really seem fair does it.

at least my private pension in the uk used to make me money, not lose it!!

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
Yes, but the crucial difference is that in Australia we stopped relying on them nearly two decades ago, with the introduction of the compulsory superannuation scheme.

When I came to the UK, I was amazed to see so many people still pinning their hopes on the (grossly outdated) national pension scheme.

National Insurance is the biggest rip-off around; I'd much rather be putting my money into the Aussie super system.
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Now that's interesting because I earn around 40K in IT in Manchester (admittedly I'm a little below market rates). But my job in Melbourne that I'm moving to is $105K. So that works out about 2.5 x the UK wage.
You are a lucky one

Hubby earned over £60K outside London and only 5 mins from home.

He now earns $90K in the CBD with an hour commute

This seems the normal for IT professionals and if you don't bring any money out with you it is impossible to buy a house closer

There are many great things about Australia though and money isn't the only thing to consider in life... For some though it gives them a life
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Originally Posted by woodyinoz
You are a lucky one
Ditto your husband. A 5 min commute outside London for GBP60k is also lucky!
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