Run it up the flagpole
Jun 23rd 2004, 5:25 am
#31
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Good for you Bondipom. You do things your way and the rest of us will do things our way.
Cheers.
Cheers.
Jun 23rd 2004, 7:03 am
#32
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Originally posted by bondipom
I am more than happy to let people mindlessly wave their flags but anyone wanting me to wave one can shove it where the sun doesn't shine. A flag is a bit of cloth. Relatives of mine fought in both world wars and they did so for the greater good and not a piece of cloth.
I am more than happy to let people mindlessly wave their flags but anyone wanting me to wave one can shove it where the sun doesn't shine. A flag is a bit of cloth. Relatives of mine fought in both world wars and they did so for the greater good and not a piece of cloth.
Individual countries flags are not just pieces of cloth ,it symbolises your country, your peoples , whether it is a welsh one, or an English one etc . Same as a national anthem.. it's supposed to be about your land , your nation and peoples... a celebration of it all rolled into one , which unfortunately the British anthem is not "God save the Queen" If you can't understand that.. well.
anyway you're quite welcome to shove a flag up your rear end if that's what tickles your fancy, just make sure it's your own flag
.cheers
Jun 23rd 2004, 7:10 am
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Mr Howard needs to put more emphasis on the 3R's......a lot of mums at my sons school think that my son is so bright...he can read!!!! So he can...he's nearly 7 for gods sake!:scared:
Many of his friends struggle with reading....get the parents to excersise the kids!!!!:lecture:
Many of his friends struggle with reading....get the parents to excersise the kids!!!!:lecture:
Jun 23rd 2004, 7:17 am
#34
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Originally posted by Ceri
I think It's just England that has this problem about flying their st george flag ,
cheers
I think It's just England that has this problem about flying their st george flag ,
cheers
I, or any one in my street/ town/ county NEVER had a problem with the St George, i've even brought mine to Aus with me.
I do however have a problem with the Union jack, after all, wouldn't want people thinking i was Welsh or anything
Jun 23rd 2004, 7:18 am
#35
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Originally posted by scoobydoo
Mr Howard needs to put more emphasis on the 3R's......a lot of mums at my sons school think that my son is so bright...he can read!!!! So he can...he's nearly 7 for gods sake!:scared:
Mr Howard needs to put more emphasis on the 3R's......a lot of mums at my sons school think that my son is so bright...he can read!!!! So he can...he's nearly 7 for gods sake!:scared:
Jun 23rd 2004, 7:22 am
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Originally posted by hevs
Different values overhere though arn't there?
Different values overhere though arn't there?
Jun 23rd 2004, 7:25 am
#37
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Originally posted by ABCDiamond
I think there must be different values all over this country.
I think there must be different values all over this country.
Jun 23rd 2004, 7:27 am
#38
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Originally posted by hevs
Sorry Ceri, but i have to disagree with you, but don't worry i'll not be calling you any words that begin with C, or telling you how to improve your sex life
I, or any one in my street/ town/ county NEVER had a problem with the St George, i've even brought mine to Aus with me.
I do however have a problem with the Union jack, after all, wouldn't want people thinking i was Welsh or anything
Sorry Ceri, but i have to disagree with you, but don't worry i'll not be calling you any words that begin with C, or telling you how to improve your sex life
I, or any one in my street/ town/ county NEVER had a problem with the St George, i've even brought mine to Aus with me.
I do however have a problem with the Union jack, after all, wouldn't want people thinking i was Welsh or anything
People are making the mistake here of saying in the Uk this and that, when they are talking about England. Wales has never had a prob flying our own flag with pride ( and no it's not just at rugby matches etc- they are permanent fixtures) - we fly it with pride. Every country I've been to, and actually I had a go at one person at a race track once, he had the union jack on his Kart with England written on it - I said if you want to fly a flag with England on it - fly your cross., and not the union Jack - it is not your sole flag
I see more union Jacks being flown by English than their St George crosses.. always have. unless it's a sporting match then they seem to come out then.
I don't own a union Jack flag myself , never have.. I will not fly it.
Cheers
Last edited by Ceri; Jun 23rd 2004 at 7:32 am.
Jun 23rd 2004, 7:31 am
#39
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I also brought my St Andrews flag out with me . Only used it a few times like the Grand Prix, when I was a Samoan supporter against England at the Rugby world cup and last week at Scotland V Aussies.
and last week at Scotland V Aussies.
Jun 23rd 2004, 7:31 am
#40
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Originally posted by Ceri
I see more union Jacks being flown by English than St George crosses by them.. always have
Cheers
I see more union Jacks being flown by English than St George crosses by them.. always have
Cheers
PS. The thing about being Welsh was a joke. Sad sense of humour, I know.........
Jun 23rd 2004, 7:37 am
#41
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Originally posted by hevs
But how do you know they're English??? Do we look different in a crowd or something
PS. The thing about being Welsh was a joke. Sad sense of humour, I know.........
But how do you know they're English??? Do we look different in a crowd or something
PS. The thing about being Welsh was a joke. Sad sense of humour, I know.........
( seriously though by their accent, and most of my English friends , and associates do fly a jack before a cross)I know it was a joke - I put a smiley thing on the end of my post ( I tend not to use smiley things when I'm serious.. or if I've forgotten to put one on)
cheers... opps nearly forgot
lol
Jun 23rd 2004, 12:04 pm
#42
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And for those who support the Australian National Flag, there's this site:
http://www.australianflag.org.au
Jeremy
http://www.australianflag.org.au
Jeremy
Originally posted by jayr
Well, it's better than discussing the arrival of yellow envelopes!
Here's some more flag stuff for those interested:
http://www.ausflag.com.au/
Well, it's better than discussing the arrival of yellow envelopes!
Here's some more flag stuff for those interested:
http://www.ausflag.com.au/
Jun 23rd 2004, 12:21 pm
#43
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Originally posted by downunderpom
It was a general comment, but if the shoe fits....
"The government' as you refer to it has a duty to protect the citizens and residents of the country which it serves. It does this through judicious use of the armed forces of that country. Before you start, no-one is suggesting that the government (of ANY country) is perfect. It's made up of people, and people are prone to make mistakes, and some serve themselves above the country they've sworn to serve.
My father put his life on the line as a Battle of Britain Spitfire pilot, so I get pissed off with people who want the protection which a government offers through its armed forces, but who poo-poo the idea of pride in the country in which you live, and who therefore think that flying the flag of their chosen country is somehow beneath them, or 'naff'.
I repeat my earlier summation:
If you're not prepared to fly the flag of the country that protects you, then piss off out of it!
It was a general comment, but if the shoe fits....
"The government' as you refer to it has a duty to protect the citizens and residents of the country which it serves. It does this through judicious use of the armed forces of that country. Before you start, no-one is suggesting that the government (of ANY country) is perfect. It's made up of people, and people are prone to make mistakes, and some serve themselves above the country they've sworn to serve.
My father put his life on the line as a Battle of Britain Spitfire pilot, so I get pissed off with people who want the protection which a government offers through its armed forces, but who poo-poo the idea of pride in the country in which you live, and who therefore think that flying the flag of their chosen country is somehow beneath them, or 'naff'.
I repeat my earlier summation:
If you're not prepared to fly the flag of the country that protects you, then piss off out of it!
Jun 23rd 2004, 2:36 pm
#44
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If you live in a free and democratic country you should NEVER be forced to fly a flag. and should NEVER be precluded from flying a flag.
John Howard's latest trick to make schools fly flags is yet another thinly veiled attempt to get the right-wing nationalistic vote. Yet another nail in the coffin for civil liberties in the country I used to call home!
John Howard's latest trick to make schools fly flags is yet another thinly veiled attempt to get the right-wing nationalistic vote. Yet another nail in the coffin for civil liberties in the country I used to call home!
Jun 23rd 2004, 4:13 pm
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I live in the US but dont have an American flag. I do however have a Union Jack that I have displayed inside my home. since I am not in my own country, I dont want to offend anyone else yet in my home where friends and family may come I am proud to show my affection for my country through a little symbolism. strangely though I've not yet been to Oz I also have an Australian flag. It is a symbol to me of the country I want to emigrate to. flags are just that..symbols. but to sentimental people, such as myself, if something means something to you there is no harm in displaying that. John Howard is not suggesting you have to fly the flag at your own home, but at public schools. I see nothing wrong with patriotism. In fact I think today too many people see things as all about themselves. shallow really. people need things to look up to and to learn respect.:lecture:
if something means something to you there is no harm in displaying that. John Howard is not suggesting you have to fly the flag at your own home, but at public schools. I see nothing wrong with patriotism. In fact I think today too many people see things as all about themselves. shallow really. people need things to look up to and to learn respect.:lecture: