Rubbish Thread
Oct 5th 2005, 2:58 pm
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Rubbish Thread
In the area where we live on the Isle of Man we have just been chosen to pilot a new recycling initiative.
Sounded like a great idea, but in theory they are doing it all wrong
We have ONE small plastic box, the size of an average toy box. EVERYTHING goes into it!! Then the collectors come round and go through each the box picking out each item and putting it into their different sections on the back of the truck! Suffice to say it take them all day to do our estate. What’s going to happen when they increase it to the whole Island?
This is typical of the local council and no doubt other areas of the UK have had similar scheme, and again I bet they did it all wrong.
My sister live in Italy and they recycle there only they do it correctly. For example on a Tuesday they will collect glass, simply come around pick up your glass bin and empty it, the next day it will be cardboard, again picking up and putting in the truck in one swoop. Each day having a separate type of item to be collected. Makes sense to me!
That’s another thing, on the Island they do not collect cardboard, plastic bottles, envelopes of any sort and numerous other things which most homes put in the bin on a daily basis!
I hear they also have recycling schemes in Australia, please tell me they have used their heads and do it correctly.
Sounded like a great idea, but in theory they are doing it all wrong
We have ONE small plastic box, the size of an average toy box. EVERYTHING goes into it!! Then the collectors come round and go through each the box picking out each item and putting it into their different sections on the back of the truck! Suffice to say it take them all day to do our estate. What’s going to happen when they increase it to the whole Island?
This is typical of the local council and no doubt other areas of the UK have had similar scheme, and again I bet they did it all wrong.
My sister live in Italy and they recycle there only they do it correctly. For example on a Tuesday they will collect glass, simply come around pick up your glass bin and empty it, the next day it will be cardboard, again picking up and putting in the truck in one swoop. Each day having a separate type of item to be collected. Makes sense to me!
That’s another thing, on the Island they do not collect cardboard, plastic bottles, envelopes of any sort and numerous other things which most homes put in the bin on a daily basis!
I hear they also have recycling schemes in Australia, please tell me they have used their heads and do it correctly.
Oct 5th 2005, 3:03 pm
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Re: Rubbish Thread
We have a continer for glass, another for tins, another for plastic bottles, another for newspapers and a big green wheely bin for the garden clippings, all collected on Friday mornings.
Must just be an IoM thing!!
Must just be an IoM thing!!
Oct 5th 2005, 3:04 pm
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Re: Rubbish Thread
Originally Posted by manxfamily
In the area where we live on the Isle of Man we have just been chosen to pilot a new recycling initiative.
Sounded like a great idea, but in theory they are doing it all wrong
We have ONE small plastic box, the size of an average toy box. EVERYTHING goes into it!! Then the collectors come round and go through each the box picking out each item and putting it into their different sections on the back of the truck! Suffice to say it take them all day to do our estate. What’s going to happen when they increase it to the whole Island?
This is typical of the local council and no doubt other areas of the UK have had similar scheme, and again I bet they did it all wrong.
My sister live in Italy and they recycle there only they do it correctly. For example on a Tuesday they will collect glass, simply come around pick up your glass bin and empty it, the next day it will be cardboard, again picking up and putting in the truck in one swoop. Each day having a separate type of item to be collected. Makes sense to me!
That’s another thing, on the Island they do not collect cardboard, plastic bottles, envelopes of any sort and numerous other things which most homes put in the bin on a daily basis!
I hear they also have recycling schemes in Australia, please tell me they have used their heads and do it correctly.
Sounded like a great idea, but in theory they are doing it all wrong
We have ONE small plastic box, the size of an average toy box. EVERYTHING goes into it!! Then the collectors come round and go through each the box picking out each item and putting it into their different sections on the back of the truck! Suffice to say it take them all day to do our estate. What’s going to happen when they increase it to the whole Island?
This is typical of the local council and no doubt other areas of the UK have had similar scheme, and again I bet they did it all wrong.
My sister live in Italy and they recycle there only they do it correctly. For example on a Tuesday they will collect glass, simply come around pick up your glass bin and empty it, the next day it will be cardboard, again picking up and putting in the truck in one swoop. Each day having a separate type of item to be collected. Makes sense to me!
That’s another thing, on the Island they do not collect cardboard, plastic bottles, envelopes of any sort and numerous other things which most homes put in the bin on a daily basis!
I hear they also have recycling schemes in Australia, please tell me they have used their heads and do it correctly.
Oct 5th 2005, 3:05 pm
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Re: Rubbish Thread
Here in the Town of Cambridge, City of Perth we have a small wheelie bin in which we dump everything and they sort it back at the depot. This is quite a common way of doing it I think.
Each borough does a different thing, some don't recycle. Same as UK I suppose!
Each borough does a different thing, some don't recycle. Same as UK I suppose!
Oct 5th 2005, 3:11 pm
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Re: Rubbish Thread
We have two gurt big wheely bins.
One for glass, cans and plastic milk bottles which is emptied once a month.
The other takes all the rest of the stuff and is emptied weekly.
Not perfect but sensible for what they are currenly doing.
You have to check the bins regularly as with the heat you can get a lot of maggots. People hose out the beggars onto their drives as it's a nice feast for the birds.
One for glass, cans and plastic milk bottles which is emptied once a month.
The other takes all the rest of the stuff and is emptied weekly.
Not perfect but sensible for what they are currenly doing.
You have to check the bins regularly as with the heat you can get a lot of maggots. People hose out the beggars onto their drives as it's a nice feast for the birds.
Oct 5th 2005, 3:17 pm
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Re: Rubbish Thread
Depends where you live - the council areas in Aus differ as in all other countries. We have a big Green Bin for garden waste, collected once a fortnight, a Yellow Lid bin for glass and plastic and a Brown Lid bin for cardboard and paper and then the much smaller black bin for our rubbish. Different vehicles for each bin operated by a single driver and a big arm to pick up the bin. Leave the bin in the wrong place or direction or too heavy and it might not be picked up. You learn quick.
We also have a phone up home rubbish collection to allow you to dump on the side (nature strip) your household crap and it gets collected for free.
I appreciate the recycling here and I am impressed in my area, but it is not the same all over Sydney. I stayed a few weeks in another council area with lots of apartments and it looked like a tip because people just dumped stuff on the street around the time of council pick up - or so they thought, which meant there could be washing machines, sofas, and loads of stuff out for weeks. Mind you this lent itself to interesting pickings on the way home from the pub!!!
Also the garden waste bin never ever seems to hold enough, and you need to check out the costs at your local tip when clearing the garden (and it will be more often than you think with a large native garden). Some council tips will be free to residents and go for weight for others
So on the whole I am impressed, but then I was very impressed with my recyclying in the UK as well. Wokingham district council to be specific.
The only thing I do not know is how well our rubbish is dealt with after it has been collected....that is possibly a more pertinent question.
Cheers
We also have a phone up home rubbish collection to allow you to dump on the side (nature strip) your household crap and it gets collected for free.
I appreciate the recycling here and I am impressed in my area, but it is not the same all over Sydney. I stayed a few weeks in another council area with lots of apartments and it looked like a tip because people just dumped stuff on the street around the time of council pick up - or so they thought, which meant there could be washing machines, sofas, and loads of stuff out for weeks. Mind you this lent itself to interesting pickings on the way home from the pub!!!
Also the garden waste bin never ever seems to hold enough, and you need to check out the costs at your local tip when clearing the garden (and it will be more often than you think with a large native garden). Some council tips will be free to residents and go for weight for others
So on the whole I am impressed, but then I was very impressed with my recyclying in the UK as well. Wokingham district council to be specific.
The only thing I do not know is how well our rubbish is dealt with after it has been collected....that is possibly a more pertinent question.
Cheers
Oct 5th 2005, 3:17 pm
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Re: Rubbish Thread
Here in Sunny Thornbury (Bristol - UK - Earth) we have a crap system.
One week 'they' do a green bin collection basically grass and paper,cardboard etc. Then the next week 'they' collect the normal waste (black bin) utterly crap !!!
One week 'they' do a green bin collection basically grass and paper,cardboard etc. Then the next week 'they' collect the normal waste (black bin) utterly crap !!!
Oct 5th 2005, 3:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Bix
We have two gurt big wheely bins.
One for glass, cans and plastic milk bottles which is emptied once a month.
The other takes all the rest of the stuff and is emptied weekly.
Not perfect but sensible for what they are currenly doing.
You have to check the bins regularly as with the heat you can get a lot of maggots. People hose out the beggars onto their drives as it's a nice feast for the birds.
One for glass, cans and plastic milk bottles which is emptied once a month.
The other takes all the rest of the stuff and is emptied weekly.
Not perfect but sensible for what they are currenly doing.
You have to check the bins regularly as with the heat you can get a lot of maggots. People hose out the beggars onto their drives as it's a nice feast for the birds.
Oct 5th 2005, 3:24 pm
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Re: Rubbish Thread
Originally Posted by Bix
We have two gurt big wheely bins.
One for glass, cans and plastic milk bottles which is emptied once a month.
The other takes all the rest of the stuff and is emptied weekly.
Not perfect but sensible for what they are currenly doing.
You have to check the bins regularly as with the heat you can get a lot of maggots. People hose out the beggars onto their drives as it's a nice feast for the birds.
One for glass, cans and plastic milk bottles which is emptied once a month.
The other takes all the rest of the stuff and is emptied weekly.
Not perfect but sensible for what they are currenly doing.
You have to check the bins regularly as with the heat you can get a lot of maggots. People hose out the beggars onto their drives as it's a nice feast for the birds.
This year we have also had a problem with maggots, and have had to double bag everything. Hubby did catch some maggots and take them fishing!!! Rather him than me :scared: .
Oct 5th 2005, 3:42 pm
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Re: Rubbish Thread
Our council has a similar scheme, black box for plastic, glass etc (oh, but no milk or yoghurt type cartons please!) and blue bag for paper (but no cardboard please to be left separately otherwise we'll pick it up, look at it and put it back).
Bloody ridiculous, lost our blue bag, my parents have just lost there's too! And they are SO picky about what they will/wont take. Took nearly six weeks just to get all our rubbish collected on the same day (some weeks the wheelie bin sat out there for three days, sometimes a week!)
Hope Aus recycling is more organised!
Bloody ridiculous, lost our blue bag, my parents have just lost there's too! And they are SO picky about what they will/wont take. Took nearly six weeks just to get all our rubbish collected on the same day (some weeks the wheelie bin sat out there for three days, sometimes a week!)
Hope Aus recycling is more organised!
Oct 5th 2005, 4:40 pm
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Re: Rubbish Thread
Originally Posted by bridiej
Our council has a similar scheme, black box for plastic, glass etc (oh, but no milk or yoghurt type cartons please!) and blue bag for paper (but no cardboard please to be left separately otherwise we'll pick it up, look at it and put it back).
Bloody ridiculous, lost our blue bag, my parents have just lost there's too! And they are SO picky about what they will/wont take. Took nearly six weeks just to get all our rubbish collected on the same day (some weeks the wheelie bin sat out there for three days, sometimes a week!)
Hope Aus recycling is more organised!
Bloody ridiculous, lost our blue bag, my parents have just lost there's too! And they are SO picky about what they will/wont take. Took nearly six weeks just to get all our rubbish collected on the same day (some weeks the wheelie bin sat out there for three days, sometimes a week!)
Hope Aus recycling is more organised!
Oct 5th 2005, 5:57 pm
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Re: Rubbish Thread
There's a very good reason they collect it all in one go.......
I live in Guildford.....a city large enough to warrant 18 full time recycling lorries plus a crew of at least 3 (I know this). Each lorry + crew visits a different area of the city every day Mon to Fri - can you imagine how many lorries and crew would be needed to visit the same area every day only collecting specific items???
I also know that it doesnt actually take THAT long to sift through the items....paper + cradboard in one bin, glass in another and tin cans in another...takes milliseconds! Plastic and all other recyclables are not collected but people are asked to recycle these items at recycling stations....
Just my thoughts.............
I live in Guildford.....a city large enough to warrant 18 full time recycling lorries plus a crew of at least 3 (I know this). Each lorry + crew visits a different area of the city every day Mon to Fri - can you imagine how many lorries and crew would be needed to visit the same area every day only collecting specific items???
I also know that it doesnt actually take THAT long to sift through the items....paper + cradboard in one bin, glass in another and tin cans in another...takes milliseconds! Plastic and all other recyclables are not collected but people are asked to recycle these items at recycling stations....
Just my thoughts.............
Originally Posted by manxfamily
In the area where we live on the Isle of Man we have just been chosen to pilot a new recycling initiative.
Sounded like a great idea, but in theory they are doing it all wrong
We have ONE small plastic box, the size of an average toy box. EVERYTHING goes into it!! Then the collectors come round and go through each the box picking out each item and putting it into their different sections on the back of the truck! Suffice to say it take them all day to do our estate. What’s going to happen when they increase it to the whole Island?
This is typical of the local council and no doubt other areas of the UK have had similar scheme, and again I bet they did it all wrong.
My sister live in Italy and they recycle there only they do it correctly. For example on a Tuesday they will collect glass, simply come around pick up your glass bin and empty it, the next day it will be cardboard, again picking up and putting in the truck in one swoop. Each day having a separate type of item to be collected. Makes sense to me!
That’s another thing, on the Island they do not collect cardboard, plastic bottles, envelopes of any sort and numerous other things which most homes put in the bin on a daily basis!
I hear they also have recycling schemes in Australia, please tell me they have used their heads and do it correctly.
Sounded like a great idea, but in theory they are doing it all wrong
We have ONE small plastic box, the size of an average toy box. EVERYTHING goes into it!! Then the collectors come round and go through each the box picking out each item and putting it into their different sections on the back of the truck! Suffice to say it take them all day to do our estate. What’s going to happen when they increase it to the whole Island?
This is typical of the local council and no doubt other areas of the UK have had similar scheme, and again I bet they did it all wrong.
My sister live in Italy and they recycle there only they do it correctly. For example on a Tuesday they will collect glass, simply come around pick up your glass bin and empty it, the next day it will be cardboard, again picking up and putting in the truck in one swoop. Each day having a separate type of item to be collected. Makes sense to me!
That’s another thing, on the Island they do not collect cardboard, plastic bottles, envelopes of any sort and numerous other things which most homes put in the bin on a daily basis!
I hear they also have recycling schemes in Australia, please tell me they have used their heads and do it correctly.
Oct 5th 2005, 9:49 pm
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Re: Rubbish Thread
We have two large wheelie bins in Brisbane, one for recycling and one for the rest. When I was in Hobart they only used to supply a small box for recycling. Very quickly filled, so we used to use the one next door for a lot of the beer bottles
Oct 6th 2005, 12:32 am
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We have three bins here in Randwick Council area (Sydney).
Big yellow bin, divided into two. One side for glass and aluminium cans, the other side for paper and cardboard. The van that picks up this bin supposedly tips the bin at the right position so all the glass goes in one side of the van, and the paper in the other. Never got up at 5am to check that this actually works though. This one gets collected fortnightly.
Big green bin for garden waste. This doesn't get picked up too often - once a month?
Small red bin, collected weekly for normal rubbish. You can get a large red bin, if the small one's not big enough - but you have to pay extra for it.
We also have council clean-ups twice a year, when the big stuff goes out onto the footpath. Also get two free individual pick-ups a year, when we can call them and they'll come and pickup any big stuff you want removed.
All our rubbish collection is done by Collex - the council don't employ their own people - and very good they are too. They even collect on public holidays, over Christmas etc.
Big yellow bin, divided into two. One side for glass and aluminium cans, the other side for paper and cardboard. The van that picks up this bin supposedly tips the bin at the right position so all the glass goes in one side of the van, and the paper in the other. Never got up at 5am to check that this actually works though. This one gets collected fortnightly.
Big green bin for garden waste. This doesn't get picked up too often - once a month?
Small red bin, collected weekly for normal rubbish. You can get a large red bin, if the small one's not big enough - but you have to pay extra for it.
We also have council clean-ups twice a year, when the big stuff goes out onto the footpath. Also get two free individual pick-ups a year, when we can call them and they'll come and pickup any big stuff you want removed.
All our rubbish collection is done by Collex - the council don't employ their own people - and very good they are too. They even collect on public holidays, over Christmas etc.
Oct 6th 2005, 12:43 am
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Re: Rubbish Thread
Originally Posted by manxfamily
In the area where we live on the Isle of Man we have just been chosen to pilot a new recycling initiative.
Sounded like a great idea, but in theory they are doing it all wrong
We have ONE small plastic box, the size of an average toy box. EVERYTHING goes into it!! Then the collectors come round and go through each the box picking out each item and putting it into their different sections on the back of the truck! Suffice to say it take them all day to do our estate. What’s going to happen when they increase it to the whole Island?
This is typical of the local council and no doubt other areas of the UK have had similar scheme, and again I bet they did it all wrong.
My sister live in Italy and they recycle there only they do it correctly. For example on a Tuesday they will collect glass, simply come around pick up your glass bin and empty it, the next day it will be cardboard, again picking up and putting in the truck in one swoop. Each day having a separate type of item to be collected. Makes sense to me!
That’s another thing, on the Island they do not collect cardboard, plastic bottles, envelopes of any sort and numerous other things which most homes put in the bin on a daily basis!
I hear they also have recycling schemes in Australia, please tell me they have used their heads and do it correctly.
Sounded like a great idea, but in theory they are doing it all wrong
We have ONE small plastic box, the size of an average toy box. EVERYTHING goes into it!! Then the collectors come round and go through each the box picking out each item and putting it into their different sections on the back of the truck! Suffice to say it take them all day to do our estate. What’s going to happen when they increase it to the whole Island?
This is typical of the local council and no doubt other areas of the UK have had similar scheme, and again I bet they did it all wrong.
My sister live in Italy and they recycle there only they do it correctly. For example on a Tuesday they will collect glass, simply come around pick up your glass bin and empty it, the next day it will be cardboard, again picking up and putting in the truck in one swoop. Each day having a separate type of item to be collected. Makes sense to me!
That’s another thing, on the Island they do not collect cardboard, plastic bottles, envelopes of any sort and numerous other things which most homes put in the bin on a daily basis!
I hear they also have recycling schemes in Australia, please tell me they have used their heads and do it correctly.
We live in Point Cook - just outside of Melbourne - and we have two bins - one for all recyclable stuff (the bigger of the two, gets emptied fortnightly) and one for all other household waste (gets emptied weekly and is the size of a normal wheely bin back in the UK). Works really well to be fair - it was the first time we had actually given some careful thought to recycling rubbish - mainly cos our local council in the UK would give us a couple of green plastic crates and expected us to go to the local recycling centre - so we were just too lazy, but here they actually put the effort in for you.
