Renouncing British citizenship
#16
Re: Renouncing British citizenship
I remember when I got married, we honeymooned in Africa (Zimbabwe/Zambia/Zanzibar/Tanganyika etc and I asked my wife if she would like a British Passport, as I assumed it would be easier to travel through Africa with one?....she asked the travel company and they said, don't do it...travelling through Africa (ex colonies etc is straight forward on an Aussie passport and if you travel on a British Passport, they make you apply for Visa's/permission etc: ...as it turns out, quite true...apparently, all the previous domains are not as sorry that we left, as we would like to believe!.....so I've let my passport expire, I can always renew it, if I want to...I was going to do mine and the kids, as then they would have been able to travel around Europe easily, but now post Brexit, I'll have to do what everyone else is doing and try to get an Irish passport!
Whether you maintain both passports for international travel to third countries would depend on which countries you visit. Brazil, for instance, is a notable example where a British passport holder can travel visa-free but an Australian passport holder would normally require a visa.
#17
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In 2008 (no idea if it's still true) Aus passport holders got in Brunei without visas whilst UK holders required one.
#18
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Requirements can change frequently. It will be interesting to see whether Brexit has any effect on future requirements for British citizens.
#19
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Australian passport holders can now apply for a 30 day visa on arrival whereas British passport holders get visa-free access for up to 90 days.
Requirements can change frequently. It will be interesting to see whether Brexit has any effect on future requirements for British citizens.
Requirements can change frequently. It will be interesting to see whether Brexit has any effect on future requirements for British citizens.
#20
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Australian passport holders can now apply for a 30 day visa on arrival whereas British passport holders get visa-free access for up to 90 days.
Requirements can change frequently. It will be interesting to see whether Brexit has any effect on future requirements for British citizens.
Requirements can change frequently. It will be interesting to see whether Brexit has any effect on future requirements for British citizens.
It's all swings and roundabouts to be honest - and depends on what treaties etc respective countries are signatories to.
Another example of difference I can remember is that UK passport holders are not subject to the 6 month validity rule when visiting the USA, whereas Australian passports are.
Personally I am happy to keep both of mine going - though I can imagine that would get expensive with a large family. I doubt that there is any one superior choice though. Much will depend upon your travel habits and likely destinations.
S
#21
Re: Renouncing British citizenship
It's all swings and roundabouts to be honest - and depends on what treaties etc respective countries are signatories to.
Another example of difference I can remember is that UK passport holders are not subject to the 6 month validity rule when visiting the USA, whereas Australian passports are.
Another example of difference I can remember is that UK passport holders are not subject to the 6 month validity rule when visiting the USA, whereas Australian passports are.
Personally I am happy to keep both of mine going - though I can imagine that would get expensive with a large family. I doubt that there is any one superior choice though. Much will depend upon your travel habits and likely destinations.
#22
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Re: Renouncing British citizenship
In terms of ripping off citizens the US is easily the master of the trade here. As soon as something happens they provide a gov't plane, claim all the glory, and then several months later they chase down their own nationals for big $$$... or else.
#23
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Re: Renouncing British citizenship
I think mentioned once only but one consideration could be conscription. If ever UK goes to war you "might" be called upon but to be honest, i reckon the military is so techy these days theyd struggle to train people; its not like they just need cannon fodder like the old days (no disrepect at all to all those who do and have served). In any case, if UK is in, no doubt Australia womt be far behind.
The other matter is if you want to be a fereral MP, you are required to renounce.
Choices of evils really, conscription or beocme and MP!
The other matter is if you want to be a fereral MP, you are required to renounce.
Choices of evils really, conscription or beocme and MP!
#25
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I'm going to sound like the old chook I am now Gordon, but where have the decent, honest and hard working politicians gone? I look around the whole world, and there are less than a handful that seem to fit that bill.
#26
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They have gone because we have this insane concept of the career politician, where they graduate with a degree in Political Science, become a serving member's staffer for a couple of years and then bob's your uncle, pre-selection and off to one of the houses.
In days gone by, politics was something that you aspired to after you had achieved something in a traditional career. Now it didn't matter if that was law, medicine or being a shop steward, but the fact was that you had some life experience in working and living.
Career politicians don't have this, and it's now starting to show - they have no connection with the common person because they have never been that common person themselves.
S
#27
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Then there's always those of us who's partners have different nation passports, who like to be in the same queue at passport control. I guess there's always those that don't want to be For me that's a major factor in not bothering to renew my UK passport and travelling on my Aus.
#28
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Then there's always those of us who's partners have different nation passports, who like to be in the same queue at passport control. I guess there's always those that don't want to be For me that's a major factor in not bothering to renew my UK passport and travelling on my Aus.
Really? That sounds like the lamest major factor I have ever heard!
S
#29
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Me too. When we traveled to north America in May we both went through the Canadian citizens line even though my partner only brought his Australian passport. He was with me so we were told to go together. Both in the US and Canada
#30
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Really...... I like being with my wife, especially in countries where things happen like suss behavior with security checks.. Which has happened in places like Dubai, albeit a long long time ago. So since then I dont leave her side... not that she can't look after herself as she jumps on people in her job as emergency admissions in the Royal Melbourne Pysch ward as part of her job sometimes.
I also had trouble myself when entering the UK once.... not sure what the security guys issue was, but he gave me the 3rd degree.... would have been nice to have witness to that. I really feel like i was flagged for something that time.
Other factor is you get through at exactly the same time, no waiting for one another.... which after 24 hours of travel can be quite irritating.
Plus if after 36 years my wife isn't automatically entitled to a UK passport... like my Aussie born kids.... then why bother with one. If it's not good enough for her... then it's not right for me..... Not that I'm renouncing UK citizenship at all. I can see we may need it one day. Call it Partnership solidarity.
I also had trouble myself when entering the UK once.... not sure what the security guys issue was, but he gave me the 3rd degree.... would have been nice to have witness to that. I really feel like i was flagged for something that time.
Other factor is you get through at exactly the same time, no waiting for one another.... which after 24 hours of travel can be quite irritating.
Plus if after 36 years my wife isn't automatically entitled to a UK passport... like my Aussie born kids.... then why bother with one. If it's not good enough for her... then it's not right for me..... Not that I'm renouncing UK citizenship at all. I can see we may need it one day. Call it Partnership solidarity.
Last edited by ozzieeagle; Jul 21st 2016 at 6:23 am.