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BadgeIsBack Apr 24th 2007 10:21 pm

Re: Is it really that bad?????
 
It depends.

Some people were relatively wealthy in the UK - it was this wealth and comfort zone which allowed them to migrate in the first place.

Not all are on low wages, and not all were wealthy to start with.

22GBP is ''low'' lets face it. An Aussie income of AUS50-60k may prove to be comparitive if you take advantage of the free things and leave the white goods, and luxuries well alone.

BadgeIsBack Apr 24th 2007 10:23 pm

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Originally Posted by Wendy (Post 4690343)
If you get $50k a year wages you'll spend most of it, if you get $100k wages a year, you'll still spend most of it ;)

So true, its part of the wage spiral, the more you earn the more you spend.

Australia_bound? Apr 24th 2007 10:42 pm

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Originally Posted by kellylmc (Post 4689986)
Hi everyone,
I keep on reading on here how living expences are extremely high and how skint everyone is in austarlia:( Is this really true or is it just a case of wealthy people from the uk just not being as wealthy?
In uk we (a family of four) live on my husbands wage of £22k (plus overtime when available) and are mortgaged to our maximum, we always manage to pay the bills, can afford the odd treat, drive a second hand car and are completely happy with this, we are not in loads of debt but not rich either.:)

Now we have tried to find out how much he would roughly be on in Oz but no jobs seem to show the salary. I did find one site however that says his average wage would be about $55k to which everyone on here says $50k is not liveable on:huh:

This converts to about £22k same as we have here, and from what i have researched is enough to buy a 3 bed house in a reasonable area, but realistically are we going to be alot worse off??

I am currently a stay at home mum for my baby and toddler and would want to continue this over in oz (personal preference).

So i guess i'm worrying as all though money isnt everything and is certainly not the reason we are thinking of moving over, we wouldnt want to be alot worse off and struggle.
Any insight anyone? :unsure:
Thank you.

Would depend on if you have enough in the way of savings to start you off, what the employment opportunities for your hubby are. Have to remember things such as schooling and medical/dental stuff can cost a fortune. But housing (if you don't mind where you live) and petrol (will have to drive further to get anywhere so may equal it out) are cheaper in Aus.

So yes you could struggle or at best maintain what you have. Is really swings and roundabouts. Just get enough information on where you want to live and that there are jobs available there and come to your own decisions ;)
Good luck

Australia_bound? Apr 24th 2007 10:43 pm

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Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 4694603)
22GBP is ''low'' lets face it. An Aussie income of AUS50-60k may prove to be comparitive if you take advantage of the free things and leave the white goods, and luxuries well alone.

£22k is low to some, but in certain areas of the UK is a damn good wage. Not everyone lives down South!

LoobyLoo! Apr 24th 2007 10:52 pm

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Originally Posted by Australia_bound? (Post 4694704)
£22k is low to some, but in certain areas of the UK is a damn good wage. Not everyone lives down South!

I agree, some of our friends (uni educated aswell) are on much less, maybe it is a northern thing but it is an above average wage around here.;)

Jensen Healey Apr 24th 2007 10:53 pm

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Originally Posted by Australia_bound? (Post 4694704)
£22k is low to some, but in certain areas of the UK is a damn good wage. Not everyone lives down South!

From the Office of National Statistics:

"The results of the 2006 ASHE show that median weekly pay for full-time employees in the UK grew by 3.7 per cent in April 2006 to reach £447. Median earnings of full-time male employees was £487 per week in April 2006; for women the median was £387."

That's £23244 pa. Of course assuming that many (most?) households have > 1 wage earner then the average household income will be higher.

LoobyLoo! Apr 24th 2007 10:54 pm

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Originally Posted by SAJ (Post 4693584)
We used to earn a decent income in the UK, but had loads of debt, mortgage, car loans etc, and worked long hours.

Now we live in rural NSW - 2 years ago bought a nice 4 bedroom house for $100k in a great community and have no debt. Although there is plenty of work around the area, we choose not to work much and live comfortably on about $15k per year. It's a million miles away from our old life. We grow veggies and hubby brews his own beer (costs about 50 cents per litre and surprisingly tastes great :beer: ).

There's a lot to be said for rural living while you find your feet in a new country. By the way, when I say we're rural, the town is small but we're only 40 minutes drive from the nearest city/3.5 hours drive from the coast.

Wow thats the life!:)
Good on ya!

LoobyLoo! Apr 24th 2007 11:07 pm

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Originally Posted by Jensen Healey (Post 4694750)
From the Office of National Statistics:

"The results of the 2006 ASHE show that median weekly pay for full-time employees in the UK grew by 3.7 per cent in April 2006 to reach £447. Median earnings of full-time male employees was £487 per week in April 2006; for women the median was £387."

That's £23244 pa. Of course assuming that many (most?) households have > 1 wage earner then the average household income will be higher.

We were talking about average wages not average household income;)

BadgeIsBack Apr 25th 2007 12:18 am

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Originally Posted by kellylmc (Post 4694741)
I agree, some of our friends (uni educated aswell) are on much less, maybe it is a northern thing but it is an above average wage around here.;)

My point exactly - AUS50k won't be such a shock. It's the people on GBP30-40 who will find the adjustment different.

knoydart Apr 25th 2007 12:32 am

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Originally Posted by seasprite (Post 4690368)
we found food a bit more costly overall by about £15 p.w, but with the fuel differences etc it all evens out. We did find the houses to be more expensive. Generally the ones on the internet that look great and affordable are in a naff area near a huge highway.Also, no work for professionals, even in the cities! (solicitors anyway)

how many others have found this to be true.

LoobyLoo! Apr 25th 2007 7:56 am

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Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 4695068)
My point exactly - AUS50k won't be such a shock. It's the people on GBP30-40 who will find the adjustment different.

Ahh get ya now:) so maybe it is those people that think it would be impossible and not just a general feeling.:thumbup:

chels Apr 25th 2007 11:46 am

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Originally Posted by knoydart (Post 4695134)
how many others have found this to be true.

I've found that what looks like it's a bargain seldom is - there's usually a reason why a house is so much cheaper than others in the same area, and usually it's either the location or its condition. Photographs can never be a sustitute for viewing something close up, REA's know all the tricks when it comes to making something look its best despite limitations, and a good property stylist can fill the house with lovely furniture that looks great in the photos.

tyke Apr 25th 2007 12:15 pm

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Kelly.

You haven't said which area of Australia you are intending to settle in.

South Australia is still affordable to a certain degree.The property is cheaper here.So wages will go a little further.

How's sunny Leeds??

Not missing it myself;)

iPom Apr 25th 2007 12:54 pm

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I think anyone who can live on £22K in the UK with four children and manage to pay bills and still have a live can do anything. That is award worthy imo.

Sue from Manchester Apr 25th 2007 1:39 pm

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I find my fuel bills a lot less because in Sunny Qld we don't need heating in the winter. A small fan heater is fine for the odd nippy night. Air con is used sparingly so we worked out we are using $100 per month fuel (gas and electric) and in the UK 2 years ago were paying about 60 or 70 GBP. If you were to move to somewhere like Melbourne or Tassie I would imagine your fuel bills would be higher. Just something to bear in mind.


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