Racism - have your kids or you experienced this, mine have?
Nov 24th 2006, 10:52 am
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Re: Racism - have your kids or you experienced this, mine have?
We have encountered light-hearted jokes such as "look at your white Pommy legs" etc since we've been here, to which we reply - "nah, not Poms, Welsh"! 
But seriously, I agree wholeheartedly with the previous comment - the real victims of racism here are the Aboriginals, and not just from the Aussies. I had to listen for a frustrating few hours to an English woman who has been here a year and a half and knows the bloody lot call them every name under the sun. I was apalled.
In addition, we all live with racism each and every day in all the world's countries. You will get nowhere worse than the U.K for it!
But seriously, I agree wholeheartedly with the previous comment - the real victims of racism here are the Aboriginals, and not just from the Aussies. I had to listen for a frustrating few hours to an English woman who has been here a year and a half and knows the bloody lot call them every name under the sun. I was apalled.
In addition, we all live with racism each and every day in all the world's countries. You will get nowhere worse than the U.K for it!
Nov 24th 2006, 10:53 am
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Re: Racism - have your kids or you experienced this, mine have?
thanks to everyone who has replied
I personally find it hard to talk to the kids about the way sports are advertised here, the cricket ads are really irratating Jack, I find the jokes funny???
A couple of other points
One fifth of the staff at the school where I work are English or Irish, the cultural jokes are funny and in jest - that is great
secondly as a family we are all (including the kids) very proud to be able to live in this fantastic country, it has cost us many tears and lots of heartache over the years in trying to get here
lastly my concern today was that an adult felt the need to approach a young adult, totally unecessary, of course he is going to wear his England shirt, it looks nice, he is 15 and he is proud to be British, does not mean he does not love Australia, as another post said, it is not the kids that make the decision to move here
thanks everyone, your replies have been interesting
Tara
I personally find it hard to talk to the kids about the way sports are advertised here, the cricket ads are really irratating Jack, I find the jokes funny???
A couple of other points
One fifth of the staff at the school where I work are English or Irish, the cultural jokes are funny and in jest - that is great
secondly as a family we are all (including the kids) very proud to be able to live in this fantastic country, it has cost us many tears and lots of heartache over the years in trying to get here
lastly my concern today was that an adult felt the need to approach a young adult, totally unecessary, of course he is going to wear his England shirt, it looks nice, he is 15 and he is proud to be British, does not mean he does not love Australia, as another post said, it is not the kids that make the decision to move here
thanks everyone, your replies have been interesting
Tara
Nov 24th 2006, 10:58 am
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Re: Racism - have your kids or you experienced this, mine have?
Originally Posted by mardybum
We have encountered light-hearted jokes such as "look at your white Pommy legs" etc since we've been here, to which we reply - "nah, not Poms, Welsh"!
But seriously, I agree wholeheartedly with the previous comment - the real victims of racism here are the Aboriginals, and not just from the Aussies. I had to listen for a frustrating few hours to an English woman who has been here a year and a half and knows the bloody lot call them every name under the sun. I was apalled.
In addition, we all live with racism each and every day in all the world's countries. You will get nowhere worse than the U.K for it!
But seriously, I agree wholeheartedly with the previous comment - the real victims of racism here are the Aboriginals, and not just from the Aussies. I had to listen for a frustrating few hours to an English woman who has been here a year and a half and knows the bloody lot call them every name under the sun. I was apalled.
In addition, we all live with racism each and every day in all the world's countries. You will get nowhere worse than the U.K for it!
I have heard terrible things about aboriginals by and large by people who wouldnt dare sat to their faces as they would be on the end of a good floggin
Nov 24th 2006, 11:02 am
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Re: Racism - have your kids or you experienced this, mine have?
Originally Posted by sassenach
Fair comment ,i have heard it too they are the most marginalised people in australia and the people of australia should be trying to give them a leg up and stop putting them down .
I have heard terrible things about aboriginals by and large by people who wouldnt dare sat to their faces as they would be on the end of a good floggin
I have heard terrible things about aboriginals by and large by people who wouldnt dare sat to their faces as they would be on the end of a good floggin
Nov 24th 2006, 11:04 am
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Originally Posted by sassenach
But its ok to say we dont like water and are a dirty load of gits and avoid soap at all cost .
There are generalisations about every nation ,but the english are expected to swallow it here in aussie without a right of reply .Because if you do yo aint playing the game and lieing down and takin the rubbish they say to you .
You tell me why the OP children should put up with that crap ,it will only make a young adolescent dislike the people he is living around beacuse he feels he doesnt fit in ,in what is supposed to one of the most multi cultural countries in the world .
My children have experienced it their whole lifes and the eldest especially has developed an unhealthy attitude towards aussie and cant wait to get out of here ,this has had a knock on effect to the whole family over the years ,and although we migrated here with every intention to assimalate it hasnt happened because i dont like the racist undertones of the australian character ,especially towards aboriginals .
You are right i dont like australians ,but i have tried to like them .
There are generalisations about every nation ,but the english are expected to swallow it here in aussie without a right of reply .Because if you do yo aint playing the game and lieing down and takin the rubbish they say to you .
You tell me why the OP children should put up with that crap ,it will only make a young adolescent dislike the people he is living around beacuse he feels he doesnt fit in ,in what is supposed to one of the most multi cultural countries in the world .
My children have experienced it their whole lifes and the eldest especially has developed an unhealthy attitude towards aussie and cant wait to get out of here ,this has had a knock on effect to the whole family over the years ,and although we migrated here with every intention to assimalate it hasnt happened because i dont like the racist undertones of the australian character ,especially towards aboriginals .
You are right i dont like australians ,but i have tried to like them .
Is there another part of England you like less than others by any chance. The reason I ask, in all honesty I found more antigonism towards me in the UK Up North, for being a Londoner, than I've ever found in all of my 26 years here in Aussie for being a pom.
Mind you I would have been giving it the big up, on my Youthful and football orientated forays up north, and probably overstating the bar approach with My ,"Light and Bitter ta Luv" in any boozer that I found myself in...... So little wonder really
Can't get Light and Bitter here
I reckon it's all to do with approach.... followed by Perth
BTW... No kids with English accents in any school that our kids have been to in the North Subs of Melbourne, Irish and Scottish ...yes.. But no English in all our time here.
I've Definitely been called a Cockney K..t, with venom far more times than I've ever been called a Pommy Bas...rd.... Thats despite the fact that I'm from Sarf London and not a Cockney
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Nov 24th 2006, 11:06 am
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Re: Racism - have your kids or you experienced this, mine have?
If we are being honest about it the entire human race has a tendancy towards racism.. we are all more confortable with people who look like us.. its a genetic fact. Its more an issue of how we handle that and how each society handles it. I still say that Australia is more casually racist than the UK, but its all down personal experience.
Nov 24th 2006, 11:07 am
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"POMMY-BASHING'' will be outlawed if WA's Ethnic Communities Council gets its way.
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/stor...4-2761,00.html
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/stor...4-2761,00.html
Nov 24th 2006, 11:07 am
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Eagle. I agree with the N/S thing.
Nov 24th 2006, 11:10 am
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Re: Racism - have your kids or you experienced this, mine have?
Originally Posted by paulrachel
yes that would be true! i do find them intimidating and i got stared out by one which scared the life out of me! A group of them fire-bombed a school near to me just for the fun of it. So i'm not too sure what i think of them yet!
really don't think you should be referring to a group of individuals, the majority of which you will never meet as 'them'. People are people, good ones and bad ones.
just a thought
Nov 24th 2006, 11:17 am
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Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack
Eagle. I agree with the N/S thing.
Personally I dont see any difference in the type of Abuse we used to get N/S in the UK as what seems to happen to Poms here.
I'm surprised at the seemingly different levels of this intolerance around the Country.
Nov 24th 2006, 11:20 am
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Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
Is there another part of England you like less than others by any chance. The reason I ask, in all honesty I found more antigonism towards me in the UK Up North, for being a Londoner, than I've ever found in all of my 26 years here in Aussie for being a pom.
Mind you I would have been giving it the big up, on my Youthful and football orientated forays up north, and probably overstating the bar approach with My ,"Light and Bitter ta Luv" in any boozer that I found myself in...... So little wonder really
Can't get Light and Bitter here
I reckon it's all to do with approach.... followed by Perth
BTW... No kids with English accents in any school that our kids have been to in the North Subs of Melbourne, Irish and Scottish ...yes.. But no English in all our time here.
I've Definitely been called a Cockney K..t, with venom far more times than I've ever been called a Pommy Bas...rd.... Thats despite the fact that I'm from Sarf London and not a Cockney
Mind you I would have been giving it the big up, on my Youthful and football orientated forays up north, and probably overstating the bar approach with My ,"Light and Bitter ta Luv" in any boozer that I found myself in...... So little wonder really
Can't get Light and Bitter here
I reckon it's all to do with approach.... followed by Perth
BTW... No kids with English accents in any school that our kids have been to in the North Subs of Melbourne, Irish and Scottish ...yes.. But no English in all our time here.
I've Definitely been called a Cockney K..t, with venom far more times than I've ever been called a Pommy Bas...rd.... Thats despite the fact that I'm from Sarf London and not a Cockney
All a load of hogwash of course ,if you are living in the north and you want money you go south ,which is what i did but if you want a cheaper way of life with less stress and good pubs ,you go north they both have their pluses and minuses just like australia i suppose .
I found the people in the south of england very welcoming but i do know northerners who just wanted to get back up north beacause of the baiting that went on .
Nov 24th 2006, 11:34 am
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Originally Posted by sassenach
I think with the uk it has always been about economics ,the south is always perceived to richer and thus they are softer ,whereas anybody up north has worked in pit and has had to eat their children for breakfast because life is so hard and tough .
All a load of hogwash of course ,if you are living in the north and you want money you go south ,which is what i did but if you want a cheaper way of life with less stress and good pubs ,you go north they both have their pluses and minuses just like australia i suppose .
I found the people in the south of england very welcoming but i do know northerners who just wanted to get back up north beacause of the baiting that went on .
All a load of hogwash of course ,if you are living in the north and you want money you go south ,which is what i did but if you want a cheaper way of life with less stress and good pubs ,you go north they both have their pluses and minuses just like australia i suppose .
I found the people in the south of england very welcoming but i do know northerners who just wanted to get back up north beacause of the baiting that went on .
Nov 24th 2006, 11:40 am
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Re: Racism - have your kids or you experienced this, mine have?
Originally Posted by callie.rocky
Um guys,
really don't think you should be referring to a group of individuals, the majority of which you will never meet as 'them'. People are people, good ones and bad ones.
just a thought
really don't think you should be referring to a group of individuals, the majority of which you will never meet as 'them'. People are people, good ones and bad ones.
just a thought
Nov 24th 2006, 11:42 am
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Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack
In my observations its normally the northers that do the baiting(!) In the forces I felt sory for southerner soldiers who were outnumbered by northern soldiers.
Nov 24th 2006, 11:51 am
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Originally Posted by sassenach
yes ,edinburgh
I am well aware of the bigotted claptrap in scotland and the strange thing is a fair amount of the population thinks its ok ,developing a hatred towards anybody because they are different is not healthy for any nation and the white australian has an inbuilt hatred for any new arrivals ,you only have to ask the italians,vietnamese,lebanese,yugoslavs and of course the never ending supply of brits who come here and just because a large percentage of the population think its right to be racist towards these people is in my book no different than the orange and the green crap with all the croppie ,pape ,jokes that go around .As far as i have seen there is only one nation thet is disliked more in australia than the english and thats the australian himself and i mean the true australian and thats the black man.
I am well aware of the bigotted claptrap in scotland and the strange thing is a fair amount of the population thinks its ok ,developing a hatred towards anybody because they are different is not healthy for any nation and the white australian has an inbuilt hatred for any new arrivals ,you only have to ask the italians,vietnamese,lebanese,yugoslavs and of course the never ending supply of brits who come here and just because a large percentage of the population think its right to be racist towards these people is in my book no different than the orange and the green crap with all the croppie ,pape ,jokes that go around .As far as i have seen there is only one nation thet is disliked more in australia than the english and thats the australian himself and i mean the true australian and thats the black man.
That is absolute bollocks.