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Old May 11th 2013, 5:33 am
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I didn't realise you weren't permanent, but if you can hang on to get permanency set in place, I'm assuming that will give you permanency across Qld Gov services so that opens up quite a large vista for you - you stand a better chance of getting another public service job than if you apply as a non public servant. Well done on the permanency anyway!
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I didn't realise you weren't permanent, but if you can hang on to get permanency set in place, I'm assuming that will give you permanency across Qld Gov services so that opens up quite a large vista for you - you stand a better chance of getting another public service job than if you apply as a non public servant. Well done on the permanency anyway!
Not necessarily. I accept that things are slightly different now with Newman's austerity drive, but if we take that out of the equation the public sector actually prefers to recruit from the private sector.
Uxworthy identified this in his excellent analysis which he termed new managerialism.
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Not necessarily. I accept that things are slightly different now with Newman's austerity drive, but if we take that out of the equation the public sector actually prefers to recruit from the private sector.
Uxworthy identified this in his excellent analysis which he termed new managerialism.
Getting a public service job at the moment is like finding a gold nugget in Queensland, as I'm sure you know I'd actually go with Quoll, and say getting a job from the inside is easier [ certainly with us (Community Safety) the vast majority of jobs up to AO8 level are advertised as internal (Qld Govt) applicants only.
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Getting a public service job at the moment is like finding a gold nugget in Queensland, as I'm sure you know I'd actually go with Quoll, and say getting a job from the inside is easier [ certainly with us (Community Safety) the vast majority of jobs up to AO8 level are advertised as internal (Qld Govt) applicants only.
I agree with you Pollyanna - that now because of Newman's culling of the public sector administration jobs are ring fenced for internal applicants only. The point I made was that prior to Newman's actions the public sector encouraged applications from the private sector.
My area just finished a recruitment drive on the 15th April for front line staff and applications were open to anyone.
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I agree with you Pollyanna - that now because of Newman's culling of the public sector administration jobs are ring fenced for internal applicants only. The point I made was that prior to Newman's actions the public sector encouraged applications from the private sector.
My area just finished a recruitment drive on the 15th April for front line staff and applications were open to anyone.
Good to hear - maybe its the first sign of recovery, opening some jobs wider at last
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Recruiting internally only is a big problem. While it appeases those internally who wish, and deserve, to progress, it also keeps stagnation of bad practise and discourages innovation and new ideas.
Its a bit reminiscent of the old Union controlled days when jobs were on a 'who you know' basis and nepotism was rife.
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Recruiting internally only is a big problem. While it appeases those internally who wish, and deserve, to progress, it also keeps stagnation of bad practise and discourages innovation and new ideas.
Its a bit reminiscent of the old Union controlled days when jobs were on a 'who you know' basis and nepotism was rife.

Erm... This is Australia - nepotism and 'who you know' is SOP here...


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You're just bitter because you haven't got an uncle in State Government to get you a shoe in job
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Originally Posted by paddyo
You're just bitter because you haven't got an uncle in State Government to get you a shoe in job

Yup


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I just wish it was Eddie O'Beid...that way I could of made use of the Irish connection!
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Looks like I've finally gone and done it! I'll keep you posted on my next move once my dates are official!!!
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If you really don't know what you can do then I'd suggest going for a business analyst role. You don't need to know anything or even get anything right to be good at it all you need to do is stick close to the technical lead of a project and do the documentation I.e. be a secretary. On the other hand you could be a project manager, better pay more exposed equally useless.
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Originally Posted by Jen1977ni
Looks like I've finally gone and done it! I'll keep you posted on my next move once my dates are official!!!
Don't forget you can do a bit of private tuition to tide you over as you go for whatever is your new focus.

As far as the corporate training game is concerned, it's fairly easy to come up with an offering and change hundreds and a thousand per person per course. If you wanted to address the lack of recognisable customer service in Australian business planning I've even got a great name for your offering - "KISS the Customer"
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Alls good, I'll enjoy the downtime in the interim until my official start date.
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Originally Posted by isgraham
If you really don't know what you can do then I'd suggest going for a business analyst role. You don't need to know anything or even get anything right to be good at it all you need to do is stick close to the technical lead of a project and do the documentation I.e. be a secretary. On the other hand you could be a project manager, better pay more exposed equally useless.
Dependent on the environment you're working in, BA work can be interesting, very rewarding and lots of fun.

I'd rather die than become a PM. The money is pretty good though

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