Question - UK drivers licence
Jan 27th 2010, 10:13 am
#31
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Re: Question - UK drivers licence
It can't be legal. Southport QLD T didn't ask to do it to mine, or my husbands. Only heard it mentioned on here.Victoria also at some stage did it, but I don't think they do anymore.
I don't think that QLD ever did it.
I think their reasoning was that by issuing an Australian licence in exchange for the UK one, the UK one was no longer valid, according to the DVLA, and therefore no longer fell under any rules against defacing what was now just a bit of worthless paper.
Jan 27th 2010, 10:14 am
#32
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Re: Question - UK drivers licence
NSW used to do it in the 1980's, but don't any more.
Victoria also at some stage did it, but I don't think they do anymore.
I don't think that QLD ever did it.
I think their reasoning was that by issuing an Australian licence in exchange for the UK one, the UK one was no longer valid, according to the DVLA, and therefore no longer fell under any rules against defacing what was now just a bit of worthless paper.
Victoria also at some stage did it, but I don't think they do anymore.
I don't think that QLD ever did it.
I think their reasoning was that by issuing an Australian licence in exchange for the UK one, the UK one was no longer valid, according to the DVLA, and therefore no longer fell under any rules against defacing what was now just a bit of worthless paper.
Jan 27th 2010, 10:19 am
#33
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Re: Question - UK drivers licence
NSW used to do it in the 1980's, but don't any more.
Victoria also at some stage did it, but I don't think they do anymore.
I don't think that QLD ever did it.
I think their reasoning was that by issuing an Australian licence in exchange for the UK one, the UK one was no longer valid, according to the DVLA, and therefore no longer fell under any rules against defacing what was now just a bit of worthless paper.
Victoria also at some stage did it, but I don't think they do anymore.
I don't think that QLD ever did it.
I think their reasoning was that by issuing an Australian licence in exchange for the UK one, the UK one was no longer valid, according to the DVLA, and therefore no longer fell under any rules against defacing what was now just a bit of worthless paper.
I used to hold both UK and USA licences, and used both. There's no question that one can hold several licences simultaneously.
Jan 27th 2010, 10:29 am
#34
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Re: Question - UK drivers licence
But they are not issuing a licence in exchange for a UK one. They are using the UK one purely as confirmation that the driver is appropriately trained and fit to hold an Australian one.
I used to hold both UK and USA licences, and used both. There's no question that one can hold several licences simultaneously.
I used to hold both UK and USA licences, and used both. There's no question that one can hold several licences simultaneously.
Back then they did the same as the UK does, and invalidate the previous licence, but in Australia they allowed you to hold onto it, instead of taking it from you.
UK Rules on licence swap:
The following conditions must be met before a licence can be granted in exchange for a GB one:
* you must surrender your foreign licence which will be returned to the issuing authority
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...nce/DG_4022562
* you must surrender your foreign licence which will be returned to the issuing authority
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...nce/DG_4022562
Jan 27th 2010, 10:38 am
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Driving Licence Law in Europe Loophole Closed
Since the introduction of free movement throughout Europe it has become possible for drivers to hold two driving licences at the same time, one from his country of origin and another, quite legally, issued in the country in which he now resides.
This has led to a situation whereby a driver is convicted of an offence following which his licence is taken away only to be allowed to continue to legally drive a car using his second licence as his entitlement to drive in a European country. This loophole has now been closed by the European Court Of Justice following a case in which an Austrian driver living in Germany was banned from driving following a drink drive conviction.
This has led to a situation whereby a driver is convicted of an offence following which his licence is taken away only to be allowed to continue to legally drive a car using his second licence as his entitlement to drive in a European country. This loophole has now been closed by the European Court Of Justice following a case in which an Austrian driver living in Germany was banned from driving following a drink drive conviction.
Jan 27th 2010, 11:55 am
#36
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Re: Question - UK drivers licence
Needless to say, I never saw it again. Even a holepunch would have been better than that!
Jan 27th 2010, 12:44 pm
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Re: Question - UK drivers licence
I have an HGV UK Licence. When I go to Oz I want to be able to drive lorries there as well. I appreciate I will have to 'exchange' my licence to drive a car followed by a lorry test but still want to be able to drive a lorry in the UK on a UK licence.
However, I've just spoken to the DVLA who tell me that when a licence is exchanged in a foreign country a marker is automatically applied to your 'account' at the DVLA at which point it is illegal to drive in the UK on your UK licence so I wouldn't be able to drive a lorry until I've exchanged it back again! (They advised I should start from scratch in Oz and do a car test. Stuff that!!)
So my question is when I apply for an Oz licence using as a basis my UK licence is it possible to avoid this marker? Is it really down to whichever Jobsworth you get as moneypenny20 suggests?
However, I've just spoken to the DVLA who tell me that when a licence is exchanged in a foreign country a marker is automatically applied to your 'account' at the DVLA at which point it is illegal to drive in the UK on your UK licence so I wouldn't be able to drive a lorry until I've exchanged it back again! (They advised I should start from scratch in Oz and do a car test. Stuff that!!)
So my question is when I apply for an Oz licence using as a basis my UK licence is it possible to avoid this marker? Is it really down to whichever Jobsworth you get as moneypenny20 suggests?
Jan 27th 2010, 7:18 pm
#38
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Re: Question - UK drivers licence
I changed my UK licence to a Victorian one just last week.
I've been here about 3 months, called up VicRoads to make an appointment and went to their office. At the appointment I filled in a form and they copied my passport, UK licence and utility bill for proof of address. Then they asked me to do a short eye test and took my picture. A week later I got my Victorian licence in the post. Easy peasy!
They didn't do anything to my UK licence except photocopy it.
I've been here about 3 months, called up VicRoads to make an appointment and went to their office. At the appointment I filled in a form and they copied my passport, UK licence and utility bill for proof of address. Then they asked me to do a short eye test and took my picture. A week later I got my Victorian licence in the post. Easy peasy!
They didn't do anything to my UK licence except photocopy it.
Did they give it back to you as is, and did you have to show them the paper counterpart to exchange?
Jan 27th 2010, 7:20 pm
#39
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When I applied for my British license the DVLA confiscated my Australian license and said they were "returning it to the country of origin." I have no idea what they thought the Australian government was going to do with it.
Needless to say, I never saw it again. Even a holepunch would have been better than that!
Needless to say, I never saw it again. Even a holepunch would have been better than that!
Jan 27th 2010, 7:56 pm
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When I applied for my British license the DVLA confiscated my Australian license and said they were "returning it to the country of origin." I have no idea what they thought the Australian government was going to do with it.
Needless to say, I never saw it again. Even a holepunch would have been better than that!
Needless to say, I never saw it again. Even a holepunch would have been better than that!
Jan 27th 2010, 11:44 pm
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Re: Question - UK drivers licence
Jan 28th 2010, 3:03 am
#42
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Re: Question - UK drivers licence
I have an HGV UK Licence. When I go to Oz I want to be able to drive lorries there as well. I appreciate I will have to 'exchange' my licence to drive a car followed by a lorry test but still want to be able to drive a lorry in the UK on a UK licence.
However, I've just spoken to the DVLA who tell me that when a licence is exchanged in a foreign country a marker is automatically applied to your 'account' at the DVLA at which point it is illegal to drive in the UK on your UK licence so I wouldn't be able to drive a lorry until I've exchanged it back again! (They advised I should start from scratch in Oz and do a car test. Stuff that!!)
So my question is when I apply for an Oz licence using as a basis my UK licence is it possible to avoid this marker? Is it really down to whichever Jobsworth you get as moneypenny20 suggests?
However, I've just spoken to the DVLA who tell me that when a licence is exchanged in a foreign country a marker is automatically applied to your 'account' at the DVLA at which point it is illegal to drive in the UK on your UK licence so I wouldn't be able to drive a lorry until I've exchanged it back again! (They advised I should start from scratch in Oz and do a car test. Stuff that!!)
So my question is when I apply for an Oz licence using as a basis my UK licence is it possible to avoid this marker? Is it really down to whichever Jobsworth you get as moneypenny20 suggests?
I might be going back a bit (or a lot) but I think they were once separate licences.
If they were, that would be ideal.
I don't think it will matter which person does your changeover, as it will be the British side of things that cancels your UK licence, not the Australian one.
But I don't actually think that the Australians send anything back to the UK, especially as you get to keep your UK licence anyway.
Jan 29th 2010, 2:07 pm
#43
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Re: Question - UK drivers licence
Its all on the same licence.
Even if they give back my UK licence don't they still inform the DVLA?
Even if they give back my UK licence don't they still inform the DVLA?
Jan 29th 2010, 11:24 pm
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Re: Question - UK drivers licence
Send me a PM in a few days time to remind me, in case I forget.
