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Old Oct 7th 2006, 1:12 pm
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Hi all,
The new checklist for a 136 visa states that whether you are married or not you now need to provide evidence. Has anybody submitted such evidence and been granted a visa when married. Below is what it says on DIMIA website:
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/gener...ing-family.htm
hope someone can help.
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Evidence to attach to your application
If you are legally married, you must include a certified copy of your marriage certificate issued by an official registry office.

Whether you are married or in a de facto (common law) relationship, you must include evidence that your relationship is genuine and continuing and you have a commitment to a shared life together. This may include:

Evidence of the history of your relationship
Both you and your spouse should provide a statement including all of the following:

how, when and where you first met
how your relationship developed
when you decided to marry or commence your de facto (common law) relationship
your domestic arrangements, that is, how you support each other financially, physically and emotionally and when this level of commitment began
any periods of separation, when and why the separation occurred, for how long and how you maintained your relationship during the period of separation
your future plans.
Note: Your statement does not need to be made on a statutory declaration form. Your statement or statutory declaration must, however, be signed by the author.

Evidence of a genuine and continuing relationship
There are four broad categories of evidence that you need to provide.

financial aspects:
sharing of finances, household bills and expenses, such as joint bank accounts, joint ownership of real estate or other assets
the household:
your living arrangements such as joint ownership of your house or joint names on a lease, correspondence addressed to both of you at the same address, joint responsibility for children
social context:
evidence that you and your partner are generally accepted as a couple socially, such as joint invitations, evidence of common friends, assessments by your friends and family of your relationship, joint travel or joint participation in sporting, social or cultural activities
your commitment:
knowledge of each other, intention that your relationship will be long term, through things such as the terms of your wills, and correspondence and phone accounts to show that contact was maintained during any periods of separation.
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Originally Posted by acbh2
Has anybody submitted such evidence and been granted a visa when married.
Yep!

Evidence to attach to your application
If you are legally married, you must include a certified copy of your marriage certificate issued by an official registry office.
That's an easy one, right...?
Evidence of the history of your relationship
Both you and your spouse should provide a statement including all of the following:

how, when and where you first met
how your relationship developed
when you decided to marry or commence your de facto (common law) relationship
your domestic arrangements, that is, how you support each other financially, physically and emotionally and when this level of commitment began
any periods of separation, when and why the separation occurred, for how long and how you maintained your relationship during the period of separation
your future plans.
Note: Your statement does not need to be made on a statutory declaration form. Your statement or statutory declaration must, however, be signed by the author.

Evidence of a genuine and continuing relationship
There are four broad categories of evidence that you need to provide.

financial aspects:
sharing of finances, household bills and expenses, such as joint bank accounts, joint ownership of real estate or other assets
the household:
your living arrangements such as joint ownership of your house or joint names on a lease, correspondence addressed to both of you at the same address, joint responsibility for children
social context:
evidence that you and your partner are generally accepted as a couple socially, such as joint invitations, evidence of common friends, assessments by your friends and family of your relationship, joint travel or joint participation in sporting, social or cultural activities
your commitment:
knowledge of each other, intention that your relationship will be long term, through things such as the terms of your wills, and correspondence and phone accounts to show that contact was maintained during any periods of separation.
Yep, did all that in my 5 A4 page statement... covered the lot. Write it genuinely and honestly... Your other half should do the same.
The rest can be joint bills, bank statements, birthday cards, anniversary cards, photographs of you together, invites to you both, pics of your children, statements by friends (or Australian citizen friends even better), airline tickets with your names on, everything you can think of basically... Nothing is too silly.

When they asked for proof of our relationship, we sent them pics of our three children...

If you haven't got it, don't worry, just substitute it with something you believe shows your relationship. Pop all the stuff in nice envelopes and label what's in each one for each category, so it makes it easy for them.

Don't forget to pop your passport in, to frontload it.

Easy.

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Yep!


That's an easy one, right?

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Yep, did all that in my 5 A4 page statement... covered the lot. Write it genuinely and honestly... Your other half should do the same.
The rest can be joint bills, bank statements, birthday cards, anniversary cards, photographs of you together, invites to you both, pics of your children, statements by friends (or Australian citizen friends even better), airline tickets with your names on, everything you can think of basically... Nothing is too silly.

When they asked for proof of our relationship, we sent them pics of our three children...

If you haven't got it, don't worry, just substitute it with something you believe shows your relationship. Pop all the stuff in nice envelopes and label what's in each one for each category, so it makes it easy for them.

Don't forget to pop your passport in, to frontload it.

Easy.
or you could just get her to SWALLOW
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Originally Posted by acbh2
Hi all,
The new checklist for a 136 visa states that whether you are married or not you now need to provide evidence. Has anybody submitted such evidence and been granted a visa when married. Below is what it says on DIMIA website:
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/gener...ing-family.htm
hope someone can help.
Andrea
xx

Evidence to attach to your application
If you are legally married, you must include a certified copy of your marriage certificate issued by an official registry office.

Whether you are married or in a de facto (common law) relationship, you must include evidence that your relationship is genuine and continuing and you have a commitment to a shared life together. This may include:

Evidence of the history of your relationship
Both you and your spouse should provide a statement including all of the following:

how, when and where you first met
how your relationship developed
when you decided to marry or commence your de facto (common law) relationship
your domestic arrangements, that is, how you support each other financially, physically and emotionally and when this level of commitment began
any periods of separation, when and why the separation occurred, for how long and how you maintained your relationship during the period of separation
your future plans.
Note: Your statement does not need to be made on a statutory declaration form. Your statement or statutory declaration must, however, be signed by the author.

Evidence of a genuine and continuing relationship
There are four broad categories of evidence that you need to provide.

financial aspects:
sharing of finances, household bills and expenses, such as joint bank accounts, joint ownership of real estate or other assets
the household:
your living arrangements such as joint ownership of your house or joint names on a lease, correspondence addressed to both of you at the same address, joint responsibility for children
social context:
evidence that you and your partner are generally accepted as a couple socially, such as joint invitations, evidence of common friends, assessments by your friends and family of your relationship, joint travel or joint participation in sporting, social or cultural activities
your commitment:
knowledge of each other, intention that your relationship will be long term, through things such as the terms of your wills, and correspondence and phone accounts to show that contact was maintained during any periods of separation.

Just send a video of the both of you arguing all of the time. What more proof will they need?
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Andrea, our agent advised us that bacause we have children together that's all we needed to prove our relationship is valid and ongoing. We sent marriage cert and kids birth certs.

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Don't forget to pop your passport in, to frontload it.

Easy.
why would you put your passport in with your visa application?
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Originally Posted by acbh2
Hi all,
The new checklist for a 136 visa states that whether you are married or not you now need to provide evidence. Has anybody submitted such evidence and been granted a visa when married. Below is what it says on DIMIA website:
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/gener...ing-family.htm
hope someone can help.
Andrea
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Evidence to attach to your application
If you are legally married, you must include a certified copy of your marriage certificate issued by an official registry office.

Whether you are married or in a de facto (common law) relationship, you must include evidence that your relationship is genuine and continuing and you have a commitment to a shared life together. This may include:

Evidence of the history of your relationship
Both you and your spouse should provide a statement including all of the following:

how, when and where you first met
how your relationship developed
when you decided to marry or commence your de facto (common law) relationship
your domestic arrangements, that is, how you support each other financially, physically and emotionally and when this level of commitment began
any periods of separation, when and why the separation occurred, for how long and how you maintained your relationship during the period of separation
your future plans.
Note: Your statement does not need to be made on a statutory declaration form. Your statement or statutory declaration must, however, be signed by the author.

Evidence of a genuine and continuing relationship
There are four broad categories of evidence that you need to provide.

financial aspects:
sharing of finances, household bills and expenses, such as joint bank accounts, joint ownership of real estate or other assets
the household:
your living arrangements such as joint ownership of your house or joint names on a lease, correspondence addressed to both of you at the same address, joint responsibility for children
social context:
evidence that you and your partner are generally accepted as a couple socially, such as joint invitations, evidence of common friends, assessments by your friends and family of your relationship, joint travel or joint participation in sporting, social or cultural activities
your commitment:
knowledge of each other, intention that your relationship will be long term, through things such as the terms of your wills, and correspondence and phone accounts to show that contact was maintained during any periods of separation.

Hi

Checkout this thread, http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=382581

I asked the same question

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Originally Posted by ianandhelena
why would you put your passport in with your visa application?
Because most spouse visas are so quick that it saves time. A lot have a turn around time of less than a couple of weeks, so you might as well send the passport with the application.

Not recommended for other visa types though.
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Because most spouse visas are so quick that it saves time. A lot have a turn around time of less than a couple of weeks, so you might as well send the passport with the application.

Not recommended for other visa types though.
I'm not applying for a spouse visa though thats why I'm confused they need so much info. This checklist was updated a couple of months ago. We are both English and applying for 136 MODL. Been married 9 years now 2 children thought that would be enough. But no we have to prove it
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Hi

Checkout this thread, http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=382581
I asked the same question
Hi Conat,
Did you supply all of this info or did you not bother in the end? If you only supply marriage and birth certs do you think they will request more info anyway, putting your application back.
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Originally Posted by acbh2
Hi Conat,
Did you supply all of this info or did you not bother in the end? If you only supply marriage and birth certs do you think they will request more info anyway, putting your application back.
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Give them every teeny tiny bit of evidence you have! We were sent packing from our first interview because we hadn't sufficiently proved that our relationship was 'ongoing'
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or you could just get her to SWALLOW


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Give them every teeny tiny bit of evidence you have! We were sent packing from our first interview because we hadn't sufficiently proved that our relationship was 'ongoing'
Hi Deerhunter,
Did they send all of your personal effects back? We have joint cards, pics and postcards from way back and more recently, but I wouldn't have kept them if I didn't want them eh or do we have to get some poor sod to verify photocopies of it all.
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Hi Deerhunter,
Did they send all of your personal effects back? We have joint cards, pics and postcards from way back and more recently, but I wouldn't have kept them if I didn't want them eh or do we have to get some poor sod to verify photocopies of it all.
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Yep they give you everything back, don't stress too much about the whole app. If you're in a real realtionship which you obviously are then it's easy as.
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Yep they give you everything back, don't stress too much about the whole app. If you're in a real realtionship which you obviously are then it's easy as.
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