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Re: Pros & Cons of Melbourne...?
Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack
(Post 8673938)
What I mean by that is that the average Australian lives in ways which confound the average Brit. They confound me too!
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Re: Pros & Cons of Melbourne...?
Originally Posted by Buzzy--Bee
(Post 8673675)
Anyone who is bored in either Melbourne or Brisbane needs to look at themselves and the choices they are making. There is loads to do in and around both cities.
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Re: Pros & Cons of Melbourne...?
Originally Posted by The Crow
(Post 8673801)
Completely disagree, even around where I live there is heaps to do - never a dull moment. I am happy to travel up to an hour for events/activities too - so that gives me the CBD, Yarra Valley, Dandenongs (on my doorstep of course), the alpine areas and the beach (fab walks there in winter too) and numerous interesting suburbs to explore. I'm always constantly reminded of how much more choice I have here than I had in Bristol - so I'm very happy :thumbup:
We are also lucky that many of the locals do not lock themselves away - but maybe that's the beauty of living in an established village. Interesting suburbs. Now there's an oxymoron for you. |
Re: Pros & Cons of Melbourne...?
Originally Posted by Deancm_MKII
(Post 8674078)
Interesting suburbs. Now there's an oxymoron for you.
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Re: Pros & Cons of Melbourne...?
Originally Posted by bcworld
(Post 8674104)
Depends where they are, I find just about all of the inner suburbs that ring the CBD offer plenty...the CBD itself doesn't really float my boat though.
I honestly don't know what has happened to Melbourne in the last 10 years. It must be the state Labor govt... I never thought I would ever say this but I am contemplating a move to Sydney. |
Re: Pros & Cons of Melbourne...?
I could be wrong (I usually am)...I live 4 hrs West of Melbourne but we get there when we can. Love the city.
This could be rubbish but...it seems the happiest people on this forum live in Melbourne or Victoria somewhere or East South Australia. Lots of people in Perth and Brisbane seem very frustrated with life here. Perhaps for them it was out of the frying pan into the fire. As I said to start with though...I could be wrong. |
Re: Pros & Cons of Melbourne...?
Originally Posted by Deancm_MKII
(Post 8674108)
Agree. Completely bored sh!tless with the CBD. Sick to death of St Kilda. St. St Kilda has gone to the dogs in the last few years. It was a hell of a lot better 10 years ago. Same with Prahran and South Yarra.
Originally Posted by Deancm_MKII
(Post 8674108)
I never thought I would ever say this but I am contemplating a move to Sydney.
Change is as good as a holiday! I used to be quite adamant that it was Melbourne only for me...but having spent a lot of time working in Syd this year I'd be more than happy to give it a go (but if you have a political axe to grind I'm sure state Labor comes into play again ;)). The only thing I'm ruling out now is a move back to Brisbane....EVER! :scaredhair: |
Re: Pros & Cons of Melbourne...?
Originally Posted by bcworld
(Post 8674121)
I live right on the edge of the boundries of St Kilda...but very rarely find myself down in Acland St or Fitzroy St areas. Have to say though I generally don't get tired of doing the Chapel St walk through Windsor, Prahran & South Yarra. The inner northern suburbs are certainly a lot more edgy and interesting perhaps.
The problem with St Kilda and Prahran et al is that is has become too gentrified; it's lost it's edge. Not to mention the local council has turned into Nazis. Change is as good as a holiday! I used to be quite adamant that it was Melbourne only for me...but having spent a lot of time working in Syd this year I'd be more than happy to give it a go (but if you have a political axe to grind I'm sure state Labor comes into play again ;)). The only thing I'm ruling out now is a move back to Brisbane....EVER! :scaredhair: Perth, Adelaide and Brisbane... I would sooner slit my wrist than move to either one of those places. |
Re: Pros & Cons of Melbourne...?
Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
(Post 8673959)
I'd really like to see your thoughts on that Badge as it's been a long while out of the UK for me, and you've probably picked up on things I've forgotten about.
You're across some of it already. Much of the problems I have observed not directly participated in.
Originally Posted by Deancm_MKII
(Post 8674078)
It all depends on what you want in life. If a more exciting life is what a person is after, Australia is not the place to be. You can only do the walks, Yarra Valley, Dandenongs and the CBD so many times before it becomes very boring.
Interesting suburbs. Now there's an oxymoron for you. Don't like St Kilda. |
Re: Pros & Cons of Melbourne...?
Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
(Post 8673919)
Your wrong about the Wages.
Although most of this is helped by the Exchange rate. I'm not sure how you can make a statement like this. Damn this thread is going to descend now, but I couldn't let this one go. Agreed with most other peoples percerptions as being relevant to them. Whereas the Wages thing is definitely incorrect. If you were to say things are more expensive here and you dont get so much for your money, then you could have a point. From memory, circa 4 months ago, and this chestnut comes up all the time.... Average wage in Aus is now circa 65,000Aud and in the UK circa 25,000 pounds. I'm not going to bother looking it up this time around, As it's so skewed in Aussies favour at present because of the exchange rate that I know I'm definitely right. Got to say this thread has some interesting perceptions in it, and although they may reflect how people see their lives in Aus, another person may see it differently. Couldnt let this one go though. Exchange rates vary all the time so trying to work out what you would be on back in the UK is a total nonsense.All i know is that im earning significantly less in real terms compared to back home...fact. As for 'average earnings'....that really means bugger all.It only takes a few big earners to totally unbalance the whole 'average' thing. 65k ?!? i know that there are people on this site who wouldnt get out of bed for that but the vast majority of people i know and work with are no-where near this figure :( |
Re: Pros & Cons of Melbourne...?
Maybe you could try becoming a Night Sorter with Aus Post, because you Will earn over 36,000 pounds..... and get 35 days holiday per year plus public holidays. (or 5 weeks uptil your tenth year) We get an extra Aus post holiday at Xmas hence the xtra day.
Or Maybe a (level 1) Registered Nurse... in a Pysch Ward, because you Will Earn 42,000 pounds and again have 34 days holidays per year plus public holidays after 10 years. Come back when you can show me UK equivalents earning that, with those kind of holidays. I'd say our income would drop 40 pct in the UK, especially as we would both have to start on 1st year wages. I went to the trouble of putting myself on the Royal Mail jobs list and waited for their vacancies to come through..... I was after this current cheap housing in London relative to Melbourne, However the wages amongst other things put me right off. All Aus Post Night sorters earn this... after 10 years... I know this for a fact, Average Income.... Same with the Nurses, although they tend to earn slightly more.. It's all about being Established. |
Re: Pros & Cons of Melbourne...?
Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
(Post 8673919)
Your wrong about the Wages.
Although most of this is helped by the Exchange rate. I'm not sure how you can make a statement like this. Damn this thread is going to descend now, but I couldn't let this one go. Agreed with most other peoples percerptions as being relevant to them. Whereas the Wages thing is definitely incorrect. If you were to say things are more expensive here and you dont get so much for your money, then you could have a point. From memory, circa 4 months ago, and this chestnut comes up all the time.... Average wage in Aus is now circa 65,000Aud and in the UK circa 25,000 pounds. I'm not going to bother looking it up this time around, As it's so skewed in Aussies favour at present because of the exchange rate that I know I'm definitely right. Got to say this thread has some interesting perceptions in it, and although they may reflect how people see their lives in Aus, another person may see it differently. Couldnt let this one go though. Low wages tend to reflect marketability which in turn leads one to think about what steps were taken ahead of their current position? From my experience $60k to $80k is pretty normal for most lower quartile workers. In context our 18 year old nanny/housekeeper earns $35k for part time work. And she only finished year 12 last year. If someone is complaining about wages its more likely an excuse for other areas of ones life. And no doubt they would be complaining the same in the UK or elsewhere. |
Re: Pros & Cons of Melbourne...?
Originally Posted by stuckinblighty
(Post 8674173)
Complete crock of shite mate.
Exchange rates vary all the time so trying to work out what you would be on back in the UK is a total nonsense.All i know is that im earning significantly less in real terms compared to back home...fact. As for 'average earnings'....that really means bugger all.It only takes a few big earners to totally unbalance the whole 'average' thing. 65k ?!? i know that there are people on this site who wouldnt get out of bed for that but the vast majority of people i know and work with are no-where near this figure :( http://www.livingin-australia.com/salaries-australia/ |
Re: Pros & Cons of Melbourne...?
Originally Posted by Mr Data
(Post 8674187)
Agree:D
Low wages tend to reflect marketability which in turn leads one to think about what steps were taken ahead of their current position? From my experience $60k to $80k is pretty normal for most lower quartile workers. In context our 18 year old nanny/housekeeper earns $35k for part time work. And she only finished year 12 last year. If someone is complaining about wages its more likely an excuse for other areas of ones life. And no doubt they would be complaining the same in the UK or elsewhere. |
Re: Pros & Cons of Melbourne...?
Originally Posted by stuckinblighty
(Post 8674204)
60 - 80 k...dream on baby
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