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AJCS Nov 22nd 2012 3:58 am

Property Inspection
 
In Victoria, Are Real Estate Agents allowed to inspect a property without the tenant being there. We have had a letter to say they are going to inspection a certain day between 10 - 1. I am quite happy for them to inspect the property but definately want to be here. Can I ask them to inspect it at a time I definately know I will be in? Thanks

Buzzy--Bee Nov 22nd 2012 4:20 am

Re: Property Inspection
 
They can inspect without you being there.

BB

Margaret3 Nov 22nd 2012 4:23 am

Re: Property Inspection
 

Originally Posted by Buzzy--Bee (Post 10395570)
They can inspect without you being there.

BB

Can they? I always thought they could only inspect without you being there with your consent? otherwise a mutual date and time has to be arranged.

AJCS Nov 22nd 2012 4:25 am

Re: Property Inspection
 
I have no problems with inspection but dont like someone being here in among my stuff if I am not here. Been broken into here and still a bit wary.

Thanks for replying will just need to make arrangements to definately be in.

Margaret3 Nov 22nd 2012 4:31 am

Re: Property Inspection
 
found this

Your landlord can enter the premises if you
are not home, providing that suitable written
notiļ¬cation has been given. However, it is
recommended that you are at home during
a landlord visit.

from this document

http://www.consumer.vic.gov.au/libra...or-tenants.pdf

Buzzy--Bee Nov 22nd 2012 4:34 am

Re: Property Inspection
 

Originally Posted by Margaret3 (Post 10395573)
Can they? I always thought they could only inspect without you being there with your consent? otherwise a mutual date and time has to be arranged.

In the leases with my tenants it just says "The tenant agrees to an initial 3 month inspection and six monthly inspections of the property thereafter."

BB

Scotty1 Nov 22nd 2012 4:35 am

Re: Property Inspection
 

Originally Posted by AJCS (Post 10395574)
I have no problems with inspection but dont like someone being here in among my stuff if I am not here. Been broken into here and still a bit wary.

Thanks for replying will just need to make arrangements to definately be in.

Just call them and arrange a mutually convenient time - however you will need to be flexible if you want to be there - eg they are unlikely to do an inspection at the weekends or after 6pm.
If you can't agree a suitable time they will be able to give you notice that they are entering the premises for the purposes of an inspection.

Margaret3 Nov 22nd 2012 4:39 am

Re: Property Inspection
 

Originally Posted by Buzzy--Bee (Post 10395581)
In the leases with my tenants it just says "The tenant agrees to an initial 3 month inspection and six monthly inspections of the property thereafter."

BB

I realise that is the usual agreement, but i was totally unaware they could enter the property without you being there (but it does state that in the above document so you are correct . Fortunately the estate agent and I have always worked out a mutual date and time and i am ALWAYS there for the inspections, the thought of not being there freaks me out a bit.

Been in this property 3 years now and usually we have one inspection from the estate agent and a separate one from the landlord every six months, pissing me off a bit, seriously thinking of renting another place , but the thought of moving eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkk. I agree to this to keep them happy in the hope of re-renting but after three years am getting fed-up with three monthly inspections. Its also a hassle arranging the time off work.

p.s to anyone renting or looking for a rental, never, ever, ever rent a place with cream carpets, looks lovely but it has been a complete nightmare and expensive business keeping them clean!

ShoreyM Nov 22nd 2012 9:01 am

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There's new amendment coming into the Residential Tenancy Act (in WA anyway) that specifies they can't make more than 3 inspections in a year. Also, they can't charge you for general wear and tear. Fair enough if you spill red wine on the carpet but general traffic is ok, as long as you pay to have them cleaned when you leave.

Siren & Brian Nov 23rd 2012 10:46 am

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Rental inspections is quite profitable for the estate agents so thats why they do them regularly. A quick drive by would tell you if the tenants are trashing the place.

Margaret3 Nov 23rd 2012 11:05 pm

Re: Property Inspection
 

Originally Posted by ShoreyM (Post 10395932)
There's new amendment coming into the Residential Tenancy Act (in WA anyway) that specifies they can't make more than 3 inspections in a year. Also, they can't charge you for general wear and tear. Fair enough if you spill red wine on the carpet but general traffic is ok, as long as you pay to have them cleaned when you leave.

That sounds like a step in the right direction:)

Almo Nov 25th 2012 3:19 am

Re: Property Inspection
 

Originally Posted by Margaret3 (Post 10395583)
I realise that is the usual agreement, but i was totally unaware they could enter the property without you being there (but it does state that in the above document so you are correct . Fortunately the estate agent and I have always worked out a mutual date and time and i am ALWAYS there for the inspections, the thought of not being there freaks me out a bit.

Been in this property 3 years now and usually we have one inspection from the estate agent and a separate one from the landlord every six months, pissing me off a bit, seriously thinking of renting another place , but the thought of moving eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkk. I agree to this to keep them happy in the hope of re-renting but after three years am getting fed-up with three monthly inspections. Its also a hassle arranging the time off work.

p.s to anyone renting or looking for a rental, never, ever, ever rent a place with cream carpets, looks lovely but it has been a complete nightmare and expensive business keeping them clean!

I don't think they are permitted to do general inspections every three months. I think you're in VIC, have a look at this link http://www.consumer.vic.gov.au/libra...or-tenants.pdf - page 22.

Buzzy--Bee Nov 25th 2012 8:19 am

Re: Property Inspection
 

Originally Posted by Siren & Brian (Post 10397604)
Rental inspections is quite profitable for the estate agents so thats why they do them regularly.

How are they profitable? I don't pay per inspection, it's all part of the % I pay my managing agents.

BB

Beoz Nov 25th 2012 8:06 pm

Re: Property Inspection
 
I know how you feel about having a stranger enter the property without your attendance.

In some ways it does make it easier as you don't need to go out of your way to be there. If something does go missing, in NSW, you can take it to the CTTT and that lot really frown upon landlords and agents who don't respect tenants.

The other way you could look at it is that you don't have the time to hide your valubles and your home insurance becomes invalid if the checker steals or breaks something or fails to lock up properly, so you would rather be there to avoid any trouble. Explain this to the landlord or agents.

paddyo Nov 25th 2012 9:31 pm

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OK, the law stands that they CAN do an inspection without you being there. BUT, common sense does prevail and simply calling them and arranging a mutually convenient time should be no issue at all. I would also mention the burglary issue too and cite this as a particular reason, it may help them to not start being obnoxious.
As for the periodicity of rental inspections, each State has their own 'guidelines' but look at your agreement before you sign it and ensure you are aware of them. Again, my experience anyway, common sense does prevail and once they get a feel for how you look after the place they tend to slacken off. Our inspections are annually with both the Agent and the Owner, and it always works well like that. Inspections every 3 months when you have been renting for 3 years is just ridiculous and smacks of 'procedure following' and not having any lateral authority. Have a word with them, but as always have the guidelines with you as ammunition if they suggest otherwise.


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