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Beoz Apr 23rd 2015 12:11 pm

Re: Problem..Exchanging UK license
 

Originally Posted by louie (Post 11626367)
Pink? Mine's green......

We're off to SA as well next month. I'm already a bit concerned about this comment from the SA website - "Once you are issued with a South Australian learner's permit or driver's licence, your overseas licence is invalid and you may be required to surrender it".

There's no way I am either giving up my UK license (of course it does not become invalid in the UK), nor am I applying for a photocard licence which has ten year validity instead of to age 70. Might have to get a letter as Swervo suggested.

Yeah you want to hang on to the UK plastic one. You need it for getting into RSL and other type of clubs if you live within a 5 km radius otherwise they make you become a member - well they do in NSW anyway

Swerv-o Apr 23rd 2015 12:30 pm

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Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11627071)
Yeah you want to hang on to the UK plastic one. You need it for getting into RSL and other type of clubs if you live within a 5 km radius otherwise they make you become a member - well they do in NSW anyway


They certainly do! Always useful to have the second licence for that alone.


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ABCD...... Apr 23rd 2015 4:50 pm

Re: Problem..Exchanging UK license
 

Originally Posted by astera (Post 11626617)
Whoa, so with a UK license you can just convert it with no test and continue driving with a newly-issued Aussie one (makes sense), but if the Aussie one expires then after X years you cannot renew it without a test... even though you still have a UK licence that would allow for an instant conversion... if you never switched to an Aussie one previously?

Wow...:)

If you have just returned to to OZ, and your OZ licence has expired, then you can swap your current UK one back to an Australian again.

It is only if your Australian licence has expired over 5 years, and you have no other current licence from the recognised country list. ie: you have not been driving for some years, that they will need a test again.

Pollyana Apr 23rd 2015 4:55 pm

Re: Problem..Exchanging UK license
 

Originally Posted by ABCD...... (Post 11627170)
If you have just returned to to OZ, and your OZ licence has expired, then you can swap your current UK one back to an Australian again.

It is only if your Australian licence has expired over 5 years, and you have no other current licence from the recognised country list. ie: you have not been driving for some years, that they will need a test again.

Problem is that they have a UK paper licence and whichever transport dept they spoke to refuses to accept paper, only plastjc.

astera Apr 23rd 2015 6:32 pm

Re: Problem..Exchanging UK license
 
Haven't plastic licenses in the UK been around for a very long time?

Swerv-o Apr 23rd 2015 6:46 pm

Re: Problem..Exchanging UK license
 

Originally Posted by astera (Post 11627219)
Haven't plastic licenses in the UK been around for a very long time?

They have - I was in the original trial group for them - but there is no obligation for you to change to one.

The A3 paper licence remains perfectly valid as a driving licence.


S

ABCD...... Apr 23rd 2015 9:22 pm

Re: Problem..Exchanging UK license
 
The Australian Motor Registries may be confused as to what is a valid UK licence.
For example; a UK Newspaper Article in 2013 stated: "The ten-year photocard licences will become mandatory in 2015 when the paper licences are officially phased out. A quarter of drivers are still using the old-style paper licences."

A more recent article states: "The paper element of the driving licence, which accompanies the credit card size photo-card, is also due to be axed on 8th June 2015."

astera Apr 24th 2015 1:25 pm

Re: Problem..Exchanging UK license
 

Originally Posted by Swerv-o (Post 11627225)
They have - I was in the original trial group for them - but there is no obligation for you to change to one.

The A3 paper licence remains perfectly valid as a driving licence.

Herein lies the problem. They should have phased these out like everyone else in Europe when the EU adopted a common format for these documents.

Similarly, in a day and age where identity theft and people smuggling are rife, a proper ID card system would be useful.

Anyway, my license has already been converted to a NSW one, now I need to wait until I have been in QLD for 3 months to switch to a local one here...

Makes me wonder what residents of Coolangatta do if they move house every so often and happen to hop across the state line each time... :)

astera May 21st 2015 3:02 pm

Re: Problem..Exchanging UK license
 

Originally Posted by astera (Post 11628306)
Anyway, my license has already been converted to a NSW one, now I need to wait until I have been in QLD for 3 months to switch to a local one here...

Whereas in NSW I was able to get a licence printed on the spot, here in Queensland I have to wait to receive it in the post.

Anyone know how long it roughly takes to receive it? Also, do all QLD centres work this way or do some produce licences on the spot?

Swerv-o May 21st 2015 3:37 pm

Re: Problem..Exchanging UK license
 

Originally Posted by astera (Post 11653048)
Whereas in NSW I was able to get a licence printed on the spot, here in Queensland I have to wait to receive it in the post.

Anyone know how long it roughly takes to receive it? Also, do all QLD centres work this way or do some produce licences on the spot?


It's gone that way in NSW now - The Service NSW centres don't have the capability to generate the new licence card on the spot, so they give you a piece of paper and then send the card through the post.

Some of the old registries can still generate an on the spot card - Marrickville being one - though I believe these are being phased out over time.


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astera May 21st 2015 4:23 pm

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How long does it usually take to get the licence by post? A week, two perhaps?

Swerv-o May 21st 2015 4:25 pm

Re: Problem..Exchanging UK license
 

Originally Posted by astera (Post 11653088)
How long does it usually take to get the licence by post? A week, two perhaps?


NSW was about 4 days. No idea about QLD. Do you have a temporary cover note so you can drive?


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astera May 21st 2015 4:55 pm

Re: Problem..Exchanging UK license
 

Originally Posted by Swerv-o (Post 11653091)
NSW was about 4 days. No idea about QLD. Do you have a temporary cover note so you can drive?

Yes, I have a temporary print-out so no worries there. It's just that for some stuff I would like to have my licence already (buying a SIM pack, etc.).

It's been about a week already so hopefully the wait won't be too much longer...

Tr1boy May 21st 2015 5:06 pm

Re: Problem..Exchanging UK license
 

Originally Posted by ABCD...... (Post 11627327)
The Australian Motor Registries may be confused as to what is a valid UK licence.
For example; a UK Newspaper Article in 2013 stated: "The ten-year photocard licences will become mandatory in 2015 when the paper licences are officially phased out. A quarter of drivers are still using the old-style paper licences."

A more recent article states: "The paper element of the driving licence, which accompanies the credit card size photo-card, is also due to be axed on 8th June 2015."

I 'think' both paragraphs are correct, the bit they have left out is about being mandatory for new licence applications. I believe I read that the 'mandatory for all no what, kicks off in 2017. In other words, the two part licence is going this year but paper only holders have until 2017.



Maybe:lol:

Tr1boy May 21st 2015 5:14 pm

Re: Problem..Exchanging UK license
 

Originally Posted by ABCD...... (Post 11627170)
If you have just returned to to OZ, and your OZ licence has expired, then you can swap your current UK one back to an Australian again.

It is only if your Australian licence has expired over 5 years, and you have no other current licence from the recognised country list. ie: you have not been driving for some years, that they will need a test again.

I hope you are right. We came to the UK in 2010, both having NSW gold licences. Mrs TB renewed her Oz licence from the UK at the end of 2010 but in 2012 swapped it for UK photo one (she didn't have a UK licence prior). That NSW licence expires the end of this year ( Oct I think) so if we return to Oz in the next couple of years she'll still be ok just to swap back?

My own NSW licence expired end of 2013 and I am renewing soon ( I think you have two years to do this fron O/S). There was no such thing as licence exchanges when I moved to Oz so I've always had completely separate ones ( my UK one is photo now).


So sounds like we will both be ok?


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