Primary school class numbers: Rosalie/Nedlands/Dalkeith/Claremont/Kapinara
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Primary school class numbers: Rosalie/Nedlands/Dalkeith/Claremont/Kapinara
I have started ringing around but not having much luck. I expect most people will be back next week.
Does anyone know approximate numbers in classes in these primary schools? I've done a search but all I could find were a couple of posts dating back to 2005.
Thanks.
Does anyone know approximate numbers in classes in these primary schools? I've done a search but all I could find were a couple of posts dating back to 2005.
Thanks.
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Re: Primary school class numbers: Rosalie/Nedlands/Dalkeith/Claremont/Kapinara
My kids went to Nedlands and the class sizes were around 26-28. At Claremont (now Freshwater Bay Primary School) the class sizes seem to be a bit smaller - a friend had a girl in a 3/4 class and there were 24 kids.
Heard good things about Nedlands, Rosalie, Dalkeith and Freshwater Bay but no idea about Kapinara.
Heard good things about Nedlands, Rosalie, Dalkeith and Freshwater Bay but no idea about Kapinara.
#3
Re: Primary school class numbers: Rosalie/Nedlands/Dalkeith/Claremont/Kapinara
My kids went to Nedlands and the class sizes were around 26-28. At Claremont (now Freshwater Bay Primary School) the class sizes seem to be a bit smaller - a friend had a girl in a 3/4 class and there were 24 kids.
Heard good things about Nedlands, Rosalie, Dalkeith and Freshwater Bay but no idea about Kapinara.
Heard good things about Nedlands, Rosalie, Dalkeith and Freshwater Bay but no idea about Kapinara.
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Re: Primary school class numbers: Rosalie/Nedlands/Dalkeith/Claremont/Kapinara
Have you checked out the education website. I know in Queensland (no help to you I know) there are enforced class restrictions. Prep - 3 & 11-12: no more than 25, Year 4 - 10 no more than 28.
From what I understand from my friends who have taught in London class numbers are less in Australia because there are no full time teacher aides. Don't know how accurate this is though.
From what I understand from my friends who have taught in London class numbers are less in Australia because there are no full time teacher aides. Don't know how accurate this is though.
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Re: Primary school class numbers: Rosalie/Nedlands/Dalkeith/Claremont/Kapinara
Thanks for this - it's certainly food for thought. Are the numbers the same in the UK do you know? We are moving three kids from private school in the east where numbers are no more than 22. Just umming and aahing between UK and Perth at the moment (we have lived in Perth before, but the kids weren't quite school age. We then lost our places at some private schools there.
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Re: Primary school class numbers: Rosalie/Nedlands/Dalkeith/Claremont/Kapinara
Thanks for this - it's certainly food for thought. Are the numbers the same in the UK do you know? We are moving three kids from private school in the east where numbers are no more than 22. Just umming and aahing between UK and Perth at the moment (we have lived in Perth before, but the kids weren't quite school age. We then lost our places at some private schools there.
Have you tried all the private schools again? Some people do drop out at the last minute.
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Re: Primary school class numbers: Rosalie/Nedlands/Dalkeith/Claremont/Kapinara
Finding out class sizes alone may be misleading, I've read that a larger class can be just as successful as a smaller one with the right teacher, or combination of a good teacher and teaching assistant(s). This article gives food for thought: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1225953463212
Might be worth knowing that a National Curriculum is currently being implemented in Australia so there will potentially be changes \ improvements over next few years.
That said, in 2009 PISA report Australia ranked higher than the UK...
Have you been using My School website to research Australian schools?
Good luck with your plans.
Might be worth knowing that a National Curriculum is currently being implemented in Australia so there will potentially be changes \ improvements over next few years.
That said, in 2009 PISA report Australia ranked higher than the UK...
Have you been using My School website to research Australian schools?
Good luck with your plans.
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Re: Primary school class numbers: Rosalie/Nedlands/Dalkeith/Claremont/Kapinara
Every school I've taught in, in the UK, primary (infant and junior) class sizes have ranged from 24-38. Reception/infants has a cap on it at 30 max, juniors doesn't. Although there is talk they are going to have to raise this cap, starting next year, as there are too few school places for all the children now coming up to school age due to increased population/birth rates. My last school (I just left as we are leaving for Oz in a couple of weeks) has been in talks with county at how we are going to manage it.
There isn't the money, either for staff or the nec. building works, to have more classes, so the class sizes will have to go up really.
I guess it completely depends on where in the country you are in the UK - I taught in London (never below 30/class), outer london (rarely under 30 and then only for infants), just outside outer london (same as outer london) and Midlands - never under 30 for infants, juniors between 22-35/class. But I know friends who have classes of 14, and some who have classes of 41, so it varies wildly.
Imho its' only going to go up, with more and more teaching being taken over by unqualified staff, due to budget restraints in the UK. Its far too hit and miss whether its good or bad imho and experience, I certainly wouldn't return to the UK for education (one of the reasons we are leaving).
There isn't the money, either for staff or the nec. building works, to have more classes, so the class sizes will have to go up really.
I guess it completely depends on where in the country you are in the UK - I taught in London (never below 30/class), outer london (rarely under 30 and then only for infants), just outside outer london (same as outer london) and Midlands - never under 30 for infants, juniors between 22-35/class. But I know friends who have classes of 14, and some who have classes of 41, so it varies wildly.
Imho its' only going to go up, with more and more teaching being taken over by unqualified staff, due to budget restraints in the UK. Its far too hit and miss whether its good or bad imho and experience, I certainly wouldn't return to the UK for education (one of the reasons we are leaving).
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Re: Primary school class numbers: Rosalie/Nedlands/Dalkeith/Claremont/Kapinara
Kapinara has no classes bigger than 30 I think. It's growing year on year and has a number of split classes eg. A 2/3, 3 and a 3/4 for this coming year. This means smaller no's in the classrooms. hope this helps!
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Re: Primary school class numbers: Rosalie/Nedlands/Dalkeith/Claremont/Kapinara
Every school I've taught in, in the UK, primary (infant and junior) class sizes have ranged from 24-38. Reception/infants has a cap on it at 30 max, juniors doesn't. Although there is talk they are going to have to raise this cap, starting next year, as there are too few school places for all the children now coming up to school age due to increased population/birth rates. My last school (I just left as we are leaving for Oz in a couple of weeks) has been in talks with county at how we are going to manage it.
There isn't the money, either for staff or the nec. building works, to have more classes, so the class sizes will have to go up really.
I guess it completely depends on where in the country you are in the UK - I taught in London (never below 30/class), outer london (rarely under 30 and then only for infants), just outside outer london (same as outer london) and Midlands - never under 30 for infants, juniors between 22-35/class. But I know friends who have classes of 14, and some who have classes of 41, so it varies wildly.
Imho its' only going to go up, with more and more teaching being taken over by unqualified staff, due to budget restraints in the UK. Its far too hit and miss whether its good or bad imho and experience, I certainly wouldn't return to the UK for education (one of the reasons we are leaving).
There isn't the money, either for staff or the nec. building works, to have more classes, so the class sizes will have to go up really.
I guess it completely depends on where in the country you are in the UK - I taught in London (never below 30/class), outer london (rarely under 30 and then only for infants), just outside outer london (same as outer london) and Midlands - never under 30 for infants, juniors between 22-35/class. But I know friends who have classes of 14, and some who have classes of 41, so it varies wildly.
Imho its' only going to go up, with more and more teaching being taken over by unqualified staff, due to budget restraints in the UK. Its far too hit and miss whether its good or bad imho and experience, I certainly wouldn't return to the UK for education (one of the reasons we are leaving).
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Re: Primary school class numbers: Rosalie/Nedlands/Dalkeith/Claremont/Kapinara
Certainly a positive move. Mind you we feel quite spoiled........at the moment the kids (x3) each have no more than 20-22 (max) per class (not split either).