PR - We don't Vote?
#16
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Re: PR - We don't Vote?
No they can't but a commonwealth citizen can vote in the UK so unfair!
#17
Re: PR - We don't Vote?
With that in mind, the concept of going to the polling booth to intentionally spoil a vote is frankly, downright selfish and borderline immoral.
If someone really wants to make a statement about how bad the choice is, simply don't vote and take the fine. Better yet, run for office and try to make an actual difference.
It's easy to find fault. It's damn hard to fix it, which is why most of the apathetic set (i.e. Lazy/Greedy/Spoiled) usually don't attempt to try.
#18
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Re: PR - We don't Vote?
Yep, they can't control what you write on the paper because to do that they would have to SEE the paper - which means its no longer a secret ballot. So you can turn up, draw fluffy bunny wunnies on it, write "Deadvim for PM"on it, or scribble "help I'm being held prisoner in a chocolate factory" and they can't do anything about it - but they can't fine you either :thumbup
Not many people know this. But in the UK they do know how you vote. The voting slip has a number on it which they write down when you present your polling card.
#19
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Re: PR - We don't Vote?
Consider the suffering endured by millions around the world desparate for the right to vote.
With that in mind, the concept of going to the polling booth to intentionally spoil a vote is frankly, downright selfish and borderline immoral.
If someone really wants to make a statement about how bad the choice is, simply don't vote and take the fine. Better yet, run for office and try to make an actual difference.
It's easy to find fault. It's damn hard to fix it, which is why most of the apathetic set (i.e. Lazy/Greedy/Spoiled) usually don't attempt to try.
With that in mind, the concept of going to the polling booth to intentionally spoil a vote is frankly, downright selfish and borderline immoral.
If someone really wants to make a statement about how bad the choice is, simply don't vote and take the fine. Better yet, run for office and try to make an actual difference.
It's easy to find fault. It's damn hard to fix it, which is why most of the apathetic set (i.e. Lazy/Greedy/Spoiled) usually don't attempt to try.
#20
Re: PR - We don't Vote?
Nothing directed at you there Pollyanna.....it was simply the concept of intentional vote spoiling I felt strongly compelled to speak against. Invariably, individuals always need to decide their own course of action.
#21
Re: PR - We don't Vote?
Consider the suffering endured by millions around the world desparate for the right to vote.
With that in mind, the concept of going to the polling booth to intentionally spoil a vote is frankly, downright selfish and borderline immoral.
If someone really wants to make a statement about how bad the choice is, simply don't vote and take the fine. Better yet, run for office and try to make an actual difference.
It's easy to find fault. It's damn hard to fix it, which is why most of the apathetic set (i.e. Lazy/Greedy/Spoiled) usually don't attempt to try.
With that in mind, the concept of going to the polling booth to intentionally spoil a vote is frankly, downright selfish and borderline immoral.
If someone really wants to make a statement about how bad the choice is, simply don't vote and take the fine. Better yet, run for office and try to make an actual difference.
It's easy to find fault. It's damn hard to fix it, which is why most of the apathetic set (i.e. Lazy/Greedy/Spoiled) usually don't attempt to try.
If you don't show, you just get fined, and that is more likely to be included in statistics in other ways.
For me, it's better to show up and say no rather than stay away.
#22
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Re: PR - We don't Vote?
Liberal democracy is based on choice and a market model of society: that if there's a group of people whose views are not represented by the existing parties, then someone will realise there's an opportunity and move into that space. How is that responsiveness supposed to work if voters have to vote for one of the existing choices?
The current elections are like driving into a small country town where there are only two places to eat: McDonald's (Liberals - same old America-and-the-market-will-fix-everything capitalist nonsense) and Hungry Jack's (Labor - just the same as Maccas but with an Aussie facade).** There's not really much between them and you don't have faith in either. You might well feel like a curry, or a salad, or a lasagne, and so might plenty of other people in town - but the catch is that if anyone tries to leave town without eating anything, the cops will fine them!
** I suppose this makes the Greens the veggie burger option on the HJ's menu.
Last edited by lapin_windstar; Aug 6th 2010 at 2:49 am.
#23
Re: PR - We don't Vote?
Consider the suffering endured by millions around the world desparate for the right to vote.
With that in mind, the concept of going to the polling booth to intentionally spoil a vote is frankly, downright selfish and borderline immoral.
If someone really wants to make a statement about how bad the choice is, simply don't vote and take the fine. Better yet, run for office and try to make an actual difference.
It's easy to find fault. It's damn hard to fix it, which is why most of the apathetic set (i.e. Lazy/Greedy/Spoiled) usually don't attempt to try.
With that in mind, the concept of going to the polling booth to intentionally spoil a vote is frankly, downright selfish and borderline immoral.
If someone really wants to make a statement about how bad the choice is, simply don't vote and take the fine. Better yet, run for office and try to make an actual difference.
It's easy to find fault. It's damn hard to fix it, which is why most of the apathetic set (i.e. Lazy/Greedy/Spoiled) usually don't attempt to try.
Last edited by ex_exile; Aug 6th 2010 at 3:14 am.
#24
Re: PR - We don't Vote?
What a load of rubbish, spoiling the paper is the best way to show that there are no worthy candidates to vote for. Why should I have to pay a fine, its not my fault they are all idiots why should I have to pay for that.
#26
Re: PR - We don't Vote?
People have fought and died for the right to vote and continue to fight and die for fair votes and fair elections.
#27
And YOU'RE paying for it!
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Re: PR - We don't Vote?
PS: there should be a comma between "punctuation" and "my" in your second sentence.
Last edited by lapin_windstar; Aug 6th 2010 at 7:08 am.