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Old Feb 1st 2004, 10:33 am
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Dear all,

I have a question about australian PR getting citizenship, but cannot get a proper answer so far. So i would like to see if anyone one here know the answer or having simliar experience.

My question is:
For an Australian PR, it have a 5 yrs time to complete his/her "commitment". He/she must have 2 yrs time staying in australia in order to allow him/her to apply for citizenship status.
I understand this part.

But what my concern is, is it the PR must complete this 2 yrs staying requirement with the 5 yrs time? or The PR can actually go back to australia at the end of Fifth year and staying in australia for another 2 years. So at the end of "Seventh" yr, the PR will also be able to apply for citizenship?

THe reason of my concern is, I am currently working oversea and worrying I go back to australia in wrong timing and will loss my chance to apply for citizenship.

THanks for any inputs!!!

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Old Feb 1st 2004, 10:37 am
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The full info will be at this link http://www.citizenship.gov.au/how.htm
Hope it helps.

Specifically:

Have you been present in Australia as a permanent resident for two years in the previous five years, including for twelve months in the past two years?

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Old Feb 1st 2004, 11:11 am
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My understanding is that the 5 years is a period when you can re-enter without a "residents return" visa. You can stay in Australia for as long as you want after that, but if you leave you'll need a residents return visa.

So the simple answer is, yes you can arrive at the end of the 5 years, stay for 2 more and get citizenship and an Aussie passport. The risk you run is that if you have to return home unexpectedly - a family illness is a common reason - you will probably not be allowed back in. The scuttlebutt is that DIMIA is reluctant to accept mitigating circumstances.

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Originally posted by CHnJ
My understanding is that the 5 years is a period when you can re-enter without a "residents return" visa. You can stay in Australia for as long as you want after that, but if you leave you'll need a residents return visa.

So the simple answer is, yes you can arrive at the end of the 5 years, stay for 2 more and get citizenship and an Aussie passport. The risk you run is that if you have to return home unexpectedly - a family illness is a common reason - you will probably not be allowed back in. The scuttlebutt is that DIMIA is reluctant to accept mitigating circumstances.

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correct. If you had to leave you would have to get some category of RRV.
 
Old Feb 1st 2004, 10:29 pm
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correct. If you had to leave you would have to get some category of RRV.
And if you dont have it, you need a DAMN good reason for them to let you back in !!

It happened to me, my RRV ran out, and I was put through hoops to be allowed back in, and it was touch and go and one point.

And for those who think it depends on circumstances, my circumstances were:
- Australian Wife (married 10 years prior to this event)
- Australian Daughter (athough born in UK)
- House in Australia

It was a lot of hassle, and two long interviews !



Bottom line:- make sure you have the visa to get back !!
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DIMIA is VERY reluctant to accept mitigating circumstances
 
Old Feb 1st 2004, 10:36 pm
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Dual citizenship seems like the most straightforward option for UK passport holders. No need to renew RRVs every 5 years.
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