Porter Davis again......
Dec 5th 2005, 9:57 pm
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Porter Davis again......
We asked for an upgrade to our toilet from a plastic to a china cistern, they told us $266.
So I just phoned up their suppliers, who said I could buy the whole china toilet for less than that, and the cistern for $140 now considering this is an upgrade so you'd take the price of the other one off, I'd say they were charging me in excess of 300% profit on it.
I phoned up to price a shower valve, they said $149 I now have to give the part number to PD, can't wait to see how much they're going to charge for it.
So I just phoned up their suppliers, who said I could buy the whole china toilet for less than that, and the cistern for $140 now considering this is an upgrade so you'd take the price of the other one off, I'd say they were charging me in excess of 300% profit on it.
I phoned up to price a shower valve, they said $149 I now have to give the part number to PD, can't wait to see how much they're going to charge for it.
Dec 5th 2005, 9:59 pm
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Re: Porter Davis again......
Originally Posted by fraser
We asked for an upgrade to our toilet from a plastic to a china cistern, they told us $266.
So I just phoned up their suppliers, who said I could buy the whole china toilet for less than that, and the cistern for $140 now considering this is an upgrade so you'd take the price of the other one off, I'd say they were charging me in excess of 300% profit on it.
I phoned up to price a shower valve, they said $149 I now have to give the part number to PD, can't wait to see how much they're going to charge for it.
So I just phoned up their suppliers, who said I could buy the whole china toilet for less than that, and the cistern for $140 now considering this is an upgrade so you'd take the price of the other one off, I'd say they were charging me in excess of 300% profit on it.
I phoned up to price a shower valve, they said $149 I now have to give the part number to PD, can't wait to see how much they're going to charge for it.
I thought you were going to give them the flick mate
Dec 5th 2005, 10:05 pm
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Re: Porter Davis again......
Originally Posted by fraser
We asked for an upgrade to our toilet from a plastic to a china cistern, they told us $266.
So I just phoned up their suppliers, who said I could buy the whole china toilet for less than that, and the cistern for $140 now considering this is an upgrade so you'd take the price of the other one off, I'd say they were charging me in excess of 300% profit on it.
I phoned up to price a shower valve, they said $149 I now have to give the part number to PD, can't wait to see how much they're going to charge for it.
So I just phoned up their suppliers, who said I could buy the whole china toilet for less than that, and the cistern for $140 now considering this is an upgrade so you'd take the price of the other one off, I'd say they were charging me in excess of 300% profit on it.
I phoned up to price a shower valve, they said $149 I now have to give the part number to PD, can't wait to see how much they're going to charge for it.
We have also asked to upgrade to china it's $260 as well so not just PD they are all cashing in big time!
Dec 5th 2005, 10:06 pm
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Re: Porter Davis again......
Originally Posted by Perthforme
They may soon give you a spade so you can dig a deeper hole
I thought you were going to give them the flick mate
I thought you were going to give them the flick mate
Dec 5th 2005, 10:11 pm
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Re: Porter Davis again......
Originally Posted by fraser
They all do it mate, they put in the cheapest shit and then charge you extortionately to upgrade it, I asked could I bring one in for them to fit or fit it myself, they said no and they glue the cistern to the wall so I risk tile damage when going to change it.
I like the way they say risk tile damage its probably just a ring of silicon round the back !
Prob still cheaper than getting a plumber in at a latter date .
Dec 5th 2005, 10:11 pm
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Re: Porter Davis again......
Originally Posted by playbunny75
Hello Fraser
We have also asked to upgrade to china it's $260 as well so not just PD they are all cashing in big time!
We have also asked to upgrade to china it's $260 as well so not just PD they are all cashing in big time!
Dec 5th 2005, 10:13 pm
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Re: Porter Davis again......
Originally Posted by Perthforme
Oh well some thing for us to look forward to next year
I like the way they say risk tile damage its probably just a ring of silicon round the back !
Prob still cheaper than getting a plumber in at a latter date .
I like the way they say risk tile damage its probably just a ring of silicon round the back !
Prob still cheaper than getting a plumber in at a latter date .
Knowing my luck they'll probably use the glue silicone which is like no nails.
Dec 5th 2005, 10:21 pm
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Re: Porter Davis again......
Originally Posted by fraser
Nah mate I'm a plumber and knowing my luck it'll be me that breaks it.
Knowing my luck they'll probably use the glue silicone which is like no nails.
Knowing my luck they'll probably use the glue silicone which is like no nails.
Dec 5th 2005, 10:31 pm
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Re: Porter Davis again......
Originally Posted by fraser
We asked for an upgrade to our toilet from a plastic to a china cistern, they told us $266.
So I just phoned up their suppliers, who said I could buy the whole china toilet for less than that, and the cistern for $140 now considering this is an upgrade so you'd take the price of the other one off, I'd say they were charging me in excess of 300% profit on it.
I phoned up to price a shower valve, they said $149 I now have to give the part number to PD, can't wait to see how much they're going to charge for it.
So I just phoned up their suppliers, who said I could buy the whole china toilet for less than that, and the cistern for $140 now considering this is an upgrade so you'd take the price of the other one off, I'd say they were charging me in excess of 300% profit on it.
I phoned up to price a shower valve, they said $149 I now have to give the part number to PD, can't wait to see how much they're going to charge for it.
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Dec 5th 2005, 10:36 pm
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Re: Porter Davis again......
Originally Posted by DollyDaydream
Mate, I hope you get it sorted soon.....but when you do make sure and check for wildlife first......!
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It's not like they have to do any extra work is it, they still have to fit a toilet
Nice pic
Dec 5th 2005, 11:41 pm
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Re: Porter Davis again......
Originally Posted by fraser
Yeah just phoned them to order the shower,I told her that they were making all that profit, she stuttered a bit and said that's what they charge.
It's not like they have to do any extra work is it, they still have to fit a toilet
Nice pic
It's not like they have to do any extra work is it, they still have to fit a toilet
Nice pic
Dec 5th 2005, 11:41 pm
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Re: Porter Davis again......
Originally Posted by fraser
We asked for an upgrade to our toilet from a plastic to a china cistern, they told us $266.
So I just phoned up their suppliers, who said I could buy the whole china toilet for less than that, and the cistern for $140 now considering this is an upgrade so you'd take the price of the other one off, I'd say they were charging me in excess of 300% profit on it.
I phoned up to price a shower valve, they said $149 I now have to give the part number to PD, can't wait to see how much they're going to charge for it.
So I just phoned up their suppliers, who said I could buy the whole china toilet for less than that, and the cistern for $140 now considering this is an upgrade so you'd take the price of the other one off, I'd say they were charging me in excess of 300% profit on it.
I phoned up to price a shower valve, they said $149 I now have to give the part number to PD, can't wait to see how much they're going to charge for it.
The only way any builder can churn out mass houses on display home margins is to keep every cost and second of time to an absolute budget. Like shopping at Mcdonalds. Time is money, product choice is limited.
Most of these outfits are buying one model of toilet from the importer in taiwan and they buy them by the thousand. Now if they have 200 houses on the go and each and every client wants to change the bog, it becomes a nightmare, imagine then every client wants to channge just 10 things, it affects purchasing, ordering , delivery, pricing, and takes staff and paperwork to do it, all costs and lost time, many items in oz that are not standard take months to come in, client wants house in 16 weeks it can take longer than that to get some stuff. Plus if they charged say $10 extra every client would make hundreds of changed and they way they keep the prices to bare bones minimum would not be possible.
If you build with a small private builder who specialises in one off homes, bending over backwards and ordering in a european toilet costing $3,700 should be no problem at all, madam would like a european bidet yes we will make sure the tradesmen dont piss in it
no problem at all mam But they are paying big bux for the extra time and service.
Dec 5th 2005, 11:55 pm
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Re: Porter Davis again......
Originally Posted by jad n rich
The only way any builder can churn out mass houses on display home margins is to keep every cost and second of time to an absolute budget. Like shopping at Mcdonalds. Time is money, product choice is limited.
Most of these outfits are buying one model of toilet from the importer in taiwan and they buy them by the thousand. Now if they have 200 houses on the go and each and every client wants to change the bog, it becomes a nightmare, imagine then every client wants to channge just 10 things, it affects purchasing, ordering , delivery, pricing, and takes staff and paperwork to do it, all costs and lost time, many items in oz that are not standard take months to come in, client wants house in 16 weeks it can take longer than that to get some stuff. Plus if they charged say $10 extra every client would make hundreds of changed and they way they keep the prices to bare bones minimum would not be possible.
If you build with a small private builder who specialises in one off homes, bending over backwards and ordering in a european toilet costing $3,700 should be no problem at all, madam would like a european bidet yes we will make sure the tradesmen dont piss in it no problem at all mam But they are paying big bux for the extra time and service.
Most of these outfits are buying one model of toilet from the importer in taiwan and they buy them by the thousand. Now if they have 200 houses on the go and each and every client wants to change the bog, it becomes a nightmare, imagine then every client wants to channge just 10 things, it affects purchasing, ordering , delivery, pricing, and takes staff and paperwork to do it, all costs and lost time, many items in oz that are not standard take months to come in, client wants house in 16 weeks it can take longer than that to get some stuff. Plus if they charged say $10 extra every client would make hundreds of changed and they way they keep the prices to bare bones minimum would not be possible.
If you build with a small private builder who specialises in one off homes, bending over backwards and ordering in a european toilet costing $3,700 should be no problem at all, madam would like a european bidet yes we will make sure the tradesmen dont piss in it
no problem at all mam But they are paying big bux for the extra time and service.It's the same supplier, and all I'm talking about is swapping a plastic cistern for a china one.
They weren't doing anything, they gave me the number of their supplier and told me to phone them, find out what I wanted and tell them and they'd just request that one instead and charge me 300% profit on it.
Plus they told me I could buy the same whole toilet for less than the upgrade.
Last edited by fraser; Dec 6th 2005 at 12:04 am.
Dec 6th 2005, 12:09 am
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Re: Porter Davis again......
Originally Posted by jad n rich
The only way any builder can churn out mass houses on display home margins is to keep every cost and second of time to an absolute budget. Like shopping at Mcdonalds. Time is money, product choice is limited.
Most of these outfits are buying one model of toilet from the importer in taiwan and they buy them by the thousand. Now if they have 200 houses on the go and each and every client wants to change the bog, it becomes a nightmare, imagine then every client wants to channge just 10 things, it affects purchasing, ordering , delivery, pricing, and takes staff and paperwork to do it, all costs and lost time, many items in oz that are not standard take months to come in, client wants house in 16 weeks it can take longer than that to get some stuff. Plus if they charged say $10 extra every client would make hundreds of changed and they way they keep the prices to bare bones minimum would not be possible.
If you build with a small private builder who specialises in one off homes, bending over backwards and ordering in a european toilet costing $3,700 should be no problem at all, madam would like a european bidet yes we will make sure the tradesmen dont piss in it no problem at all mam But they are paying big bux for the extra time and service.
Most of these outfits are buying one model of toilet from the importer in taiwan and they buy them by the thousand. Now if they have 200 houses on the go and each and every client wants to change the bog, it becomes a nightmare, imagine then every client wants to channge just 10 things, it affects purchasing, ordering , delivery, pricing, and takes staff and paperwork to do it, all costs and lost time, many items in oz that are not standard take months to come in, client wants house in 16 weeks it can take longer than that to get some stuff. Plus if they charged say $10 extra every client would make hundreds of changed and they way they keep the prices to bare bones minimum would not be possible.
If you build with a small private builder who specialises in one off homes, bending over backwards and ordering in a european toilet costing $3,700 should be no problem at all, madam would like a european bidet yes we will make sure the tradesmen dont piss in it
no problem at all mam But they are paying big bux for the extra time and service.Last edited by biggy; Dec 6th 2005 at 1:32 am.
Dec 6th 2005, 12:10 am
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Re: Porter Davis again......
Originally Posted by fraser
It's the same supplier, and all I'm talking about is swapping a plastic cistern for a china one.
They weren't doing anything, they gave me the number of their supplier and told me to phone them, find out what I wanted and tell them and they'd just request that one instead and charge me 300% profit on it.
Plus they told me I could buy the same whole toilet for less than the upgrade.
They weren't doing anything, they gave me the number of their supplier and told me to phone them, find out what I wanted and tell them and they'd just request that one instead and charge me 300% profit on it.
Plus they told me I could buy the same whole toilet for less than the upgrade.
go back to them and say OK I will buy the toilet........you take the price off for the unit.......and install the one i provide...ta very much